Tomba! 1/2: all categories

2007-11-21 09:02:44 pm

Quote:

I seriously am reconsidering speed running. My DVD recorder just ruined the disc with my 4 segments on it, and I'm not going to start over. I'm moving on to 100%, though. I never ripped the 3rd or 4th segs off the disc, so I can only upload seg 2 (once WMM stops erroring). This probably won't be done until '08.

if the data is still on the disc you can get it off with something like isobuster. otherwise you can send it to me and i'll do it.

RJWaters2

2007-11-21 10:33:37 pm

two rows of links on main page pretty nifty

I think the disc is entirely worthless at this point. It had done it with some other discs before and those don't read on my computers.

As for progress with the 100%, I'm fine-tuning the route now.

ShadowLaguna

2007-11-22 07:32:53 am

THE GAME!!

One day I may do an Any% for Tombi! 2 myself. Don't worry. Tongue

MTGjumper

2007-11-22 04:42:14 pm

I'm guessing that RJWaters won't be replying cause he 's giving thanks. Me and you, Laguna, have perfectly good excuses to not be!

Anyway, if I were to run Tombi, it would be in a seperate category regardless due to it being PAL, right?

I'm thinking of an any%, 130 and an SS of Tombi possibly over Christmas. Basically, that's when I'll have loads of time, with no pressure from school.

nate

2007-11-22 04:57:32 pm

Quote:

I think the disc is entirely worthless at this point. It had done it with some other discs before and those don't read on my computers.

As for progress with the 100%, I'm fine-tuning the route now.

if the data is on the disc, isobuster can read it, regardless of whether anything shows up in windoze explorer.

ShadowLaguna

2007-11-23 04:02:09 am

THE GAME!!

Quote:

I'm guessing that RJWaters won't be replying cause he 's giving thanks. Me and you, Laguna, have perfectly good excuses to not be!

Anyway, if I were to run Tombi, it would be in a seperate category regardless due to it being PAL, right?

I'm thinking of an any%, 130 and an SS of Tombi possibly over Christmas. Basically, that's when I'll have loads of time, with no pressure from school.

Yeah, we don't celebrate Thanksgiving and I believe nobody outside North America does.

If you were running the PAL version then yes, SDA would consider it a seperate category. Check games like StarFox 64 (Lylat Wars) and Super Mario 64 and there's your proof. Smiley

If my Klonoa speedrun went on SDA and somebody else used the NTSC version to run it, then my run would remain as it is PAL.

MTGjumper

2007-11-24 10:29:57 pm

RJWaters, regarding 100% route planning:

Have you devoted a single segment for each of collecting leaf butterflies, filling your green bar and filling your blue bar?

It seems the most logical thing to me, but I ahve a nagging feeling there's a better way to do it (we all know how your red bar can be filled with the mighty fish food mission).

I'll see how much I can plan. I'm very interested in seeing your route.

RJWaters2

2007-11-25 06:03:49 am

two rows of links on main page pretty nifty

Good thing you mentioned the bars. There is a mighty fish to be collected to max out each bar.
One in the Masakari River, one in the Ol' Pond, and one in the room of the Haunted Masnsion that has a pipe coming from Wobbly Wharf. I have a segment at the start of the 100 Flower Forest collecting 25 butterflies and learning the dwarf language.
I'll post the route sometime tomorrow.

And to nate, I'm unhappy with the 'optimization' I had gotten in the segments on the disc anyway. I am not going to settle for less than astonishing, if I ever want to be an established runner here :p

MTGjumper

2007-11-25 10:03:26 am

I only knew of the mighty fish in the Ol' Pond. I wasted loads of time killing needlegators to max out my blue bar... Well, that simplifies it a lot.

RJWaters2

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RJWaters2: 2007-11-28 12:30:14 am

2007-11-27 01:15:46 am

two rows of links on main page pretty nifty

A-my route:

*1* Start off, get the Furious Tornado, jump on the two pump rocks here, collect Frog, use peach flower gas for the baby koma pig, collect the chick, use Furious tornado, go to collect the second chick, talk to Yan, go to ol’ pond, clear “Take me Home”, get bananas, save at Forest of All Beginnings.
0 Charity Wings
0 Cheese

*2* Go back to Charles, get Animal Dash, enter the background over the building by the mailbox, step on the pump rocks there, go across the river and step on the three pump rocks there, collect the third chick, into the foreground, climb up to the fourth chick, enter the 100 year old man’s hut, exit and collect the Charity wing, talk to Yan, return to the 100 year old man’s hut, jump out to the 100 flower forest.
1 Charity Wing
0 Cheese

*3* Collect 25 Leaf Butterflies, bite the first 2 dwarves, step on both pump rocks, bite the third dwarf, enter village, learn the dwarf language, and learn of dwarves lost, fly to 100 Flower Forest.
0 Charity Wing
0 Cheese

*4* Collect both charity wings, collect two dwarves on way to the Wobbly Wharf, pass Baron, push barrel, collect crystal ball, collect bucket, free dwarf, exit out, rescue Baron, free two dwarves on way to the village, give Baron to nurse, enter Watch Tower.
2 Charity Wings
0 Cheese

*5* Jump on first wooden structure, free 1st dwarf, step on pump rock, collect/equip Jumping pants, free other dwarf, collect child, go up to the top, collect telescope, look and see, push off boulder, jump to the crystal ball, collect mirror, take child home, get thanked, get blue pig bag, enter thief’s room, exit, acquire torch, return to prisoner, use torch, exit, learn of fight, reenter, get broken vase, go to fight, leave to watch tower, equip bucket, get three drops, exit to charity square, return, exit to the mushroom forest.
2 Charity Wings
1 Cheese

*6* Go to background, fight the bonsugee for the rise and shine powder, collect the charity wing, get happy, talk to dwarf, get sad, talk to dwarf, fly to Charity Square.
2 Charity Wings
1 Cheese

*7* Get 2 charity wings, collect crystal ball, enter leaf slider, use blue powder, clear ‘red + blue =?’, exit to phoenix mountain.
4 Charity Wings
1 Cheese

*8* Step on the two pump rocks, jump the gap, don’t free Charles, step on the two pump rocks between the walls, on to the second area, go to lava caves, get Charles’ pants, get the dashing pants, equip, ride phoenix to Baccus village, learn of baby mouse in town square, find mouse, learn of the fruits of death, report mouse to town hall, learn of lake problem, go to haunted mansion.
4 Charity Wings
1 Cheese

*9* Go to lake, breaking eggs on the way, return to town hall, learn of town hall chest, return to haunted mansion, turn to the east side, collect the 1st key panel, break egg, go left onto the south side, break 3 eggs, jump up, break egg, over chimney, egg, all the way left, egg, get 3rd key panel from the mermaid’s room, enter the elevator room, jump across and out for the egg, reenter elevator room, get 4th key panel by hanging, go out, jump down, enter ‘unbreakable wire room’ for 2nd key panel, break 2 eggs, jump down to the small key room, get key, go left and back up to the west side of the mansion, jump down to enter the cry baby door, get cheeses, go to north side, go left to the eggs, drop down, break last 2 eggs, enter the small key door, go back to the west side, then to the south side, talk to the 1,000 year old man, exit and fly to Lava caves, get Green pig bag, exit and get/equip grapple, enter the doorway to fall to the beginning, fly to mushroom forest.
2 Charity Wings
3 Cheeses

*10* Get mysterious mushroom, break 5 death fruit juice plants, get 3 healing mushrooms, use the mysterious mushroom and fly to the north side of the mansion.
1 Charity Wing
3 Cheeses

*11* Go to smile! Door, get key piece, use healing mushroom, fight green pig, go to assemble key pieces, get the purple pig bag, fly to Baccus village, tell about the death fruit juice (gets charity wing), give healing mushroom to crying man, then give baby koma pig, talk to red fortune teller, then get Orange pig bag, then fly to Lava Caves.
0 Charity Wing
3 Cheeses

*12* Backtrack to two charity wings, get the Red evil pig bag, use mysterious mushroom, enter smile door for Yan and charity wing, use healing mushroom, get healing herbs, fly to Lava caves, fight the purple evil pig, save.
2 Charity Wings
3 Cheeses

*13* Collect 1st bunk flower, 2nd bunk flower (stone platform), collect what the thief forgot, step on pump rock while entering the hidden village, get Yan’s lunch box from his dad, exit to Lava Caves, collect 3rd bunk flower (by thief), return what the thief forgot, collect 2 charity wings from 1,000 year old chest, jump onto 4th bunk flower, land on 5th bunk flower, jump on last pump rock in Lava Caves, exit to the phoenix’s nest, ride the phoenix.
4 Charity Wings
3 Cheeses

*14* Collect the funga drum, fall in river, get bananas, get 4 leaf butterflies, return hat to miner, get banana juice, learn to swim, get knowledge fruit, step on the pump rocks, fly to dwarf village, use healing herbs and knowledge fruit, get Charity Wing out of 1,000 year old chest, fly to mushroom forest.
3 Charity Wing
3 Cheeses

*15* Step on 3 pump rocks, get normal mushroom, go to boat, collect seaweed, enter mansion, open chest, exit, fly to dwarf village, get baron, baron to the y-crossing, learn of power problem, learn of old door, learn of bomb.

*16* Exit, get bomb, fight orange pig, talk to yan, give take-out, blow up door, learn of Mizuno, get raft, learn of gogocar, fly to the ol’ pond, enter Trick Village.
2 Charity Wings, Baron
5 Cheeses

*17* Talk to 10,000 year old man, get seashell necklace, fly (using Charity Wing) to 1,000 year old man’s room, exit to mermaid’s room, learn to dive, exit room and fly to lava caves and get what the thief left behind, fly to ol’ pond, use mighty fish food, fly to the wobbly wharf, find where the barrel rolls and enter, use mighty fish food, exit, give the thief what he forgot, get the jewel of fire, go find Yan, get the two cheeses, talk to thief’s boss, get the boss’ jewel, fly to phoenix’s nest, get jewel of wind, fly to old tree hill, enter river, use mighty fish food, (using Charity Wing) fly to charity square.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
9 Cheeses

*18* Beat the red evil pig, talk to Yan, use leaf butterflies, talk to Yan, feed the fatty, fly to phoenix mountain.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
9 Cheeses

*19* Use Charles’ pants, step on pump rock, use funga drum, get molasses, learn of famous digger, enter room for cheese, enter non-windy door, fly to Trick Village.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
12 Cheeses

*20* Collect 10 math beads and the jewel of water and 2 charity wings, fly to 10,000 year old man’s house (using Charity Wing), get yellow pig bag, fly to charity square (using Charity Wing).
0 Charity Wings, Baron
12 Cheeses

*21* Exit to Watch Tower, enter Underground Maze, collect two cheeses, needlegator teeth, cold medicine, use thief’s wire, learn of unbreakable wire, fly to 1,000 year old man’s room, exit and go get unbreakable wire, exit and fly to underground maze, collect cheese and biting plant flower, fight blue evil pig, open the 1,000,000 year old chest for AP, fly to underground maze, talk to the blue fortune teller, go left for butamushi thorn, fly to old tree hill, learn of tree’s knowledge, get navy pig bag, ride raft, fly to 100 flower forest.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
15 Cheeses

*22* Get baked yam, fly to dwarf village, use baked yam, talk to prisoner, race prisoner, get flower seeds, finish race, fly to dwarf village, give seeds to child, fly to the mushroom forest.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
15 Cheeses

*23* Beat yellow bonsugee, use rise and shine powder, use tear bottle, fly to Mushroom Forest.
Baron
15 Cheeses

*24* Use boat to beach, fight navy pig, fly to the y-crossing.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
15 Cheeses

*25* Defeat the yellow evil pig, fly to baccus village, get friend, give cheese, get wine, fly to the y-crossing, get the friend, enter the iron castle, get friend, go to lumberyard, get friend, give wine, get fuel bar, fly to the forest of all beginnings.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
0 Cheeses, Gold Fruit

*26* Go to motocross course, get gold medal, talk to mermaid, fly to forest of all beginnings.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
0 Cheeses, Gold Fruit

*27* Enter motocross course, get silver medal, fly to forest of all beginnings, enter mizuno’s house, give candy ingredients, talk to give lost items, exit, enter, power-up your weapon, exit, enter, give cold medicine, go to motocross course, get bronze medal, fly to dwarf village, get friend, get golden flower, fly to charity square, use flower tears, get sacred fish, fly to Trick Village, get fish, fly to north side of the mansion.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
0 Cheeses, Psychic Fish

*28* Get friend, exit, fly to the strange, small room, beat final evil pig.

Thoughts, improvements, worries, suggestions?

A-my route:

*1* Start off, get the Furious Tornado, jump on the two pump rocks here, collect Frog, use peach flower gas for the baby koma pig, collect the chick, use Furious tornado, go to collect the second chick, talk to Yan, go to ol’ pond, clear “Take me Home”, get bananas, save at Forest of All Beginnings.
0 Charity Wings
0 Cheese

*2* Go back to Charles, get Animal Dash, enter the background over the building by the mailbox, step on the pump rocks there, go across the river and step on the three pump rocks there, collect the third chick, into the foreground, climb up to the fourth chick, enter the 100 year old man’s hut, exit and collect the Charity wing, talk to Yan, return to the 100 year old man’s hut, jump out to the 100 flower forest.
1 Charity Wing
0 Cheese

*3* Collect 25 Leaf Butterflies, bite the first 2 dwarves, step on both pump rocks, bite the third dwarf, enter village, learn the dwarf language, and learn of dwarves lost, fly to 100 Flower Forest.
0 Charity Wing
0 Cheese

*4* Collect both charity wings, collect two dwarves on way to the Wobbly Wharf, pass Baron, push barrel, collect crystal ball, collect bucket, free dwarf, exit out, rescue Baron, free two dwarves on way to the village, give Baron to nurse, enter Watch Tower.
2 Charity Wings
0 Cheese

*5* Jump on first wooden structure, free 1st dwarf, step on pump rock, collect/equip Jumping pants, free other dwarf, collect child, go up to the top, collect telescope, look and see, push off boulder, jump to the crystal ball, collect mirror, take child home, get thanked, get blue pig bag, enter thief’s room, exit, acquire torch, return to prisoner, use torch, exit, learn of fight, reenter, get broken vase, go to fight, leave to watch tower, equip bucket, get three drops, exit to charity square, return, exit to the mushroom forest.
2 Charity Wings
1 Cheese

*6* Go to background, fight the bonsugee for the rise and shine powder, collect the charity wing, get happy, talk to dwarf, get sad, talk to dwarf, fly to Charity Square.
2 Charity Wings
1 Cheese

*7* Get 2 charity wings, collect crystal ball, enter leaf slider, use blue powder, clear ‘red + blue =?’, exit to phoenix mountain.
4 Charity Wings
1 Cheese

*8* Step on the two pump rocks, jump the gap, don’t free Charles, step on the two pump rocks between the walls, on to the second area, go to lava caves, get Charles’ pants, get the dashing pants, equip, ride phoenix to Baccus village, learn of baby mouse in town square, find mouse, learn of the fruits of death, report mouse to town hall, learn of lake problem, go to haunted mansion.
4 Charity Wings
1 Cheese

*9* Go to lake, breaking eggs on the way, return to town hall, learn of town hall chest, return to haunted mansion, turn to the east side, collect the 1st key panel, break egg, go left onto the south side, break 3 eggs, jump up, break egg, over chimney, egg, all the way left, egg, get 3rd key panel from the mermaid’s room, enter the elevator room, jump across and out for the egg, reenter elevator room, get 4th key panel by hanging, go out, jump down, enter ‘unbreakable wire room’ for 2nd key panel, break 2 eggs, jump down to the small key room, get key, go left and back up to the west side of the mansion, jump down to enter the cry baby door, get cheeses, go to north side, go left to the eggs, drop down, break last 2 eggs, enter the small key door, go back to the west side, then to the south side, talk to the 1,000 year old man, exit and fly to Lava caves, get Green pig bag, exit and get/equip grapple, enter the doorway to fall to the beginning, fly to mushroom forest.
2 Charity Wings
3 Cheeses

*10* Get mysterious mushroom, break 5 death fruit juice plants, get 3 healing mushrooms, use the mysterious mushroom and fly to the north side of the mansion.
1 Charity Wing
3 Cheeses

*11* Go to smile! Door, get key piece, use healing mushroom, fight green pig, go to assemble key pieces, get the purple pig bag, fly to Baccus village, tell about the death fruit juice (gets charity wing), give healing mushroom to crying man, then give baby koma pig, talk to red fortune teller, then get Orange pig bag, then fly to Lava Caves.
0 Charity Wing
3 Cheeses

*12* Backtrack to two charity wings, get the Red evil pig bag, use mysterious mushroom, enter smile door for Yan and charity wing, use healing mushroom, get healing herbs, fly to Lava caves, fight the purple evil pig, save.
2 Charity Wings
3 Cheeses

*13* Collect 1st bunk flower, 2nd bunk flower (stone platform), collect what the thief forgot, step on pump rock while entering the hidden village, get Yan’s lunch box from his dad, exit to Lava Caves, collect 3rd bunk flower (by thief), return what the thief forgot, collect 2 charity wings from 1,000 year old chest, jump onto 4th bunk flower, land on 5th bunk flower, jump on last pump rock in Lava Caves, exit to the phoenix’s nest, ride the phoenix.
4 Charity Wings
3 Cheeses

*14* Collect the funga drum, fall in river, get bananas, get 4 leaf butterflies, return hat to miner, get banana juice, learn to swim, get knowledge fruit, step on the pump rocks, fly to dwarf village, use healing herbs and knowledge fruit, get Charity Wing out of 1,000 year old chest, fly to mushroom forest.
3 Charity Wing
3 Cheeses

*15* Step on 3 pump rocks, get normal mushroom, go to boat, collect seaweed, enter mansion, open chest, exit, fly to dwarf village, get baron, baron to the y-crossing, learn of power problem, learn of old door, learn of bomb.

*16* Exit, get bomb, fight orange pig, talk to yan, give take-out, blow up door, learn of Mizuno, get raft, learn of gogocar, fly to the ol’ pond, enter Trick Village.
2 Charity Wings, Baron
5 Cheeses

*17* Talk to 10,000 year old man, get seashell necklace, fly (using Charity Wing) to 1,000 year old man’s room, exit to mermaid’s room, learn to dive, exit room and fly to lava caves and get what the thief left behind, fly to ol’ pond, use mighty fish food, fly to the wobbly wharf, find where the barrel rolls and enter, use mighty fish food, exit, give the thief what he forgot, get the jewel of fire, go find Yan, get the two cheeses, talk to thief’s boss, get the boss’ jewel, fly to phoenix’s nest, get jewel of wind, fly to old tree hill, enter river, use mighty fish food, (using Charity Wing) fly to charity square.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
9 Cheeses

*18* Beat the red evil pig, talk to Yan, use leaf butterflies, talk to Yan, feed the fatty, fly to phoenix mountain.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
9 Cheeses

*19* Use Charles’ pants, step on pump rock, use funga drum, get molasses, learn of famous digger, enter room for cheese, enter non-windy door, fly to Trick Village.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
12 Cheeses

*20* Collect 10 math beads and the jewel of water and 2 charity wings, fly to 10,000 year old man’s house (using Charity Wing), get yellow pig bag, fly to charity square (using Charity Wing).
0 Charity Wings, Baron
12 Cheeses

*21* Exit to Watch Tower, enter Underground Maze, collect two cheeses, needlegator teeth, cold medicine, use thief’s wire, learn of unbreakable wire, fly to 1,000 year old man’s room, exit and go get unbreakable wire, exit and fly to underground maze, collect cheese and biting plant flower, fight blue evil pig, open the 1,000,000 year old chest for AP, fly to underground maze, talk to the blue fortune teller, go left for butamushi thorn, fly to old tree hill, learn of tree’s knowledge, get navy pig bag, ride raft, fly to 100 flower forest.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
15 Cheeses

*22* Get baked yam, fly to dwarf village, use baked yam, talk to prisoner, race prisoner, get flower seeds, finish race, fly to dwarf village, give seeds to child, fly to the mushroom forest.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
15 Cheeses

*23* Beat yellow bonsugee, use rise and shine powder, use tear bottle, fly to Mushroom Forest.
Baron
15 Cheeses

*24* Use boat to beach, fight navy pig, fly to the y-crossing.  
0 Charity Wings, Baron
15 Cheeses

*25* Defeat the yellow evil pig, fly to baccus village, get friend, give cheese, get wine, fly to the y-crossing, get the friend, enter the iron castle, get friend, go to lumberyard, get friend, give wine, get fuel bar, fly to the forest of all beginnings.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
0 Cheeses, Gold Fruit

*26* Go to motocross course, get gold medal, talk to mermaid, fly to forest of all beginnings.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
0 Cheeses, Gold Fruit

*27* Enter motocross course, get silver medal, fly to forest of all beginnings, enter mizuno’s house, give candy ingredients, talk to give lost items, exit, enter, power-up your weapon, exit, enter, give cold medicine, go to motocross course, get bronze medal, fly to dwarf village, get friend, get golden flower, fly to charity square, use flower tears, get sacred fish, fly to Trick Village, get fish, fly to north side of the mansion.
0 Charity Wings, Baron
0 Cheeses, Psychic Fish

*28* Get friend, exit, fly to the strange, small room, beat final evil pig.

Thoughts, improvements, worries, suggestions?

MTGjumper

2007-11-27 04:00:49 pm

Great route. Hard to do in places, but great. Better than my old route, anyway.

Not 'gut reaction' improvements. I'll have to look more in depth later, and test out the route (non-speed running) to see how it feels.

I'd be worried purely about triggering "Where the barrel Rolls" so early, as I find it difficult without Funky Parasol. I'm not sure how to do it without.

I'll see how it goes.

RJWaters2

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RJWaters2: 2007-11-28 12:31:35 am

2007-11-28 12:01:36 am

two rows of links on main page pretty nifty

How does the Funky Parasol help with that???
I probably do need to break up some of these segments -- too hard for perfection.

UPDATE: Re-worked the route, 28 segments. I wish some difficult moments were spaced apart further, so there will be many short segments when they could have more stuff.

MTGjumper

2007-11-30 03:26:39 pm

Any updates on publish-ment? (I can make up words too!)

I wanna see the run!

bmn

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bmn: 2007-11-30 03:47:30 pm

2007-11-30 03:46:43 pm

Quote:

If you were running the PAL version then yes, SDA would consider it a seperate category. Check games like StarFox 64 (Lylat Wars) and Super Mario 64 and there's your proof. Smiley

If my Klonoa speedrun went on SDA and somebody else used the NTSC version to run it, then my run would remain as it is PAL.

This is only the case if the PAL and NTSC versions have differences that affect the timing of a run. The usual culprit is PAL versions playing more slowly due to bad/lazy handling of the slower PAL TV refresh rate, but this is not present in all games, and I don't think it's in Tomba!.

MTGjumper

2007-11-30 05:01:24 pm

I has been wondering if there in fact was any slow down between PAL and NTSC for Tombi, and hadn't noticed any from the YouTube vids and my own playing.

RJWaters2

2007-11-30 11:37:55 pm

two rows of links on main page pretty nifty

Unless you're going off the Tomba! 2, you can't be entirely accurate off those vids :p

And this should be on the update anytime now. The Queue says one run is ready, I think it's the Spyro 120%, though.

Aulirophile

2007-12-01 01:31:10 am

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Unless you're going off the Tomba! 2, you can't be entirely accurate off those vids :p

And this should be on the update anytime now. The Queue says one run is ready, I think it's the Spyro 120%, though.

How do you have 120%?

Good to know it should be up soon, at any rate.

ShadowLaguna

2007-12-01 03:10:02 am

THE GAME!!

Quote:

How do you have 120%?

Good to know it should be up soon, at any rate.

There's a secret level in Spyro 1. And that secret level gives you 20 extra %.

ShadowLaguna

2007-12-01 03:26:10 am

THE GAME!!

I don't think i'll be running Klonoa now. I may get back to it in the future, but it's bloody hard (yes, easy game but hard run). So i'm gonna try out Tombi! 2. I would try the original but I don't actually have it so 2 it is. I might do a trial run first and see what would fit into every segment. There's no way i'm trying SS. So just so you guys know, i'm gonna try it!

MTGjumper

2007-12-01 09:51:29 am

I had been considering Klonoa as a SS, possibly 100%. Seriously, it's really quite easy, and I think it's very much doable.

Aulirophile

2007-12-01 03:12:54 pm

It just occurred to me that in a 100% you're supposed to get "anything that increases the characters power." For instance in Zelda you need to get all HCs. In Tomba! I imagine you'd need to get all the vitality +s, and those aren't in your current route.

That route is more like an all events completed route, which would be counted as a separate category from 100%.

MTGjumper

2007-12-01 05:07:02 pm

I asked this question way back, and Waters was under the opinion that they weren't needed.

I'm guessing we should ask mike or someone if this is necessary. It seems a bit odd to collect all of them.

By this logic, all of the weapons need to be collected too.

RJWaters2

2007-12-01 05:44:51 pm

two rows of links on main page pretty nifty

I think that getting all the items the game doesn't keep the tracks of aren't necessary in a game that has a clear 100% goal, such as Tomba!
Same with Tomba! 2-I'm not going to get the Coal Mine Bell or all of the Magic Wings, they don't add to the 100%.

ShadowLaguna

2007-12-01 09:32:04 pm

THE GAME!!

I may get back to Klonoa, but maybe sometime in the future.

Anyway, this is a part of my current plan for Tombi! 2.

SEGMENT 1
Help Kainen with the fire, get the crabs, save at the beginning of the pipe area.

SEGMENT 2
Remove all cappers, free Charles from mud, get Hammer and rescue Gran, save at beginning of Kujara Ranch.

SEGMENT 3
Get Santa's sack, get the green key for the squirrel clothes, get the kujara energy, find the three kujaras, save at beginning of Donglin Forest.

SEGMENT 4
Defeat the ghost monster, get the grapple and turbo pants, save at beginning of The Deep Forest.

Now that's all I have so far, I may mix Segment 4 with the next Segment, but how's that so far?

RJWaters2

2007-12-01 09:49:35 pm

two rows of links on main page pretty nifty

Those ARE my first 4 segments, lol. Well there's a lot more to them then what you listed, but these are doable without head explosions/feelings of "Could I do more in this seg?"

Except I don't get Turbo Pants in my route. I'm not sure if I should.