Timeshift

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Ekelbatzen: 2008-03-10 05:44:46 pm

2008-03-10 05:42:58 pm

Hm...I have an insane idea! When we can jump so extremely high it should be possible to jump up to the crane in level 18 Shocked

I will check that Grin

Maybe its a bit too high, but its worth a try Wink

zato

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zato: 2008-03-10 05:48:11 pm

2008-03-10 05:45:10 pm

Quote:

Hm...I have an insane idea! When we can jump so extremely high it should be possible to jump up to the crane in level 18 Shocked

I will check that Grin

Maybe its a bit too high, but its worth a try Wink

I will check what level 18 is Wink

edit: I'm not sure what crane or what part you mean, but I can tell you that you are being pushed up because of the invisible wall (i think)

Ekelbatzen

2008-03-10 05:47:55 pm

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I will check what level 18 is Wink

The last level, you remember? Cheesy

http://www.vimeo.com/767634

zato

2008-03-10 05:51:28 pm

Like I said, I'm not sure if i follow you, but I think we are not jumping higher, we are just being pushed by the invisible wall

Ekelbatzen

2008-03-10 06:03:40 pm

Oh... its not possible Cry

I can jump up to 5 meters but there are about 50 m still missing Tongue

But maybe the barrels are just useless, there are the yellow explosive ones and some blue-grey ones which barely react to physics...

zato

2008-03-10 06:38:00 pm

can i see an avi about it? Im curious to know Smiley

Ekelbatzen

2008-03-10 07:00:33 pm

I cant because it doesnt work Tongue

I thought the extreme push would come from the barrel but it was the trigger, so we cant get any advantage out of that.

Ekelbatzen

2008-03-10 07:34:55 pm

Done with level 19. Is it possible that I get faster the more levels I do? Cheesy

Its pretty fast, I'm uploading now...

Lag.Com

2008-03-10 07:37:29 pm

sda loyalist

That signature picture is hueg like xbox. Please change it.

zato

2008-03-10 07:51:44 pm

eh... yea. Hotlinked.

Ekelbatzen

2008-03-10 07:59:32 pm

Uploaded. I had to wait a bit in front of the boxes because of the time reverse problem.

http://www.vimeo.com/771996

zato

2008-03-10 09:42:53 pm

I'm going to watch it now. And just want to tell you that I found the way to skip like 3/4 of level 20 Wink

You will probably have to fight most of the enemies in the first section though Grin

edit: im still testing it ! might not be definitive !

(going to watch)

edit2: well that was by far the most impressive of all segments so far, who would imagine it can be done so fast Grin

Going to record level 20 now Wink

edit3: yep you can do the level in 2 minutes or less. Need to render then upload....................... 8) 8) 8) 8)

edit4: http://www.divxvine.com/9h9oa7j9ouq3/level_20_-_skip.avi.html

Ekelbatzen

2008-03-10 09:49:05 pm

WOW! What mass of triggers did you skip? Wink

Unbelievable it works! Shocked

zato

2008-03-10 09:54:53 pm

nice ah?

When the doors open and I start to spam grenades of all kinds... I know I didn't hit anything... but that was just me taking rage out! Before I found the first little shortcut I ran for it and the guy on the right just stands in the middle of the door and blocked me! I made sure he couldn't this time! Grin

Looking forward for level 20 then, good luck

Ekelbatzen

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Ekelbatzen: 2008-03-10 10:48:45 pm

2008-03-10 10:25:12 pm

This level....was too fast to believe! 40 seconds!!
But I dont have any grenade left, do I get some more until I need them or should I stop at the ammo box for a moment on level 20?

http://www.vimeo.com/772580

zato

2008-03-10 11:00:10 pm

Don't worry about it, if you need to jump you can use thunderbolt.

The truth is, I have no idea what to do on the next level, witch is the wind tunnel. No way you stop for ammo, 40 seconds was sick! And there was I saying 2 minutes or less... sorry about that :-[

Going to level 21 and see what can we do, but it all indicates you will have to make it normal :-/

Ekelbatzen

2008-03-10 11:09:00 pm

I thought you would find another way to "barrel" yourself up again because I noticed there was standing a green barrel on the upper hallways Grin

Well I will search a bit more tommorow Tongue

zato

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zato: 2008-03-11 03:04:32 am

2008-03-11 12:13:23 am

Well the invisible walls make it hard to come up with something...

I have been able to go to the top level from the floor and I have found something new! If you drop an object from a very high place, and you jump with it standing on it and not moving at all.... no damage Wink

Will upload later or tomorrow.

edit: It is now safe to say that you will have to do the level normally. I have been able to go to the other side of the level (where you pull the switches to move the Zep) without stopping the wind, buuuut all the doors are closed, the important ones not the ladder or stairs ones. As for enemies spawns you only have to deal with the ones with jetpacks, the ones inside every switches rooms and the ones that open the doors that go to the ladders/stairs, but it makes the enemies in the upper level not to spawn...

Anyway I'd recommend to find a way to use time reverse in the first part only twice (doesn't seem to hard to accomplish) and just run run and don't stop.

Ekelbatzen

2008-03-11 03:06:49 pm

So I should just run for it now with no tricks? Tongue

zato

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zato: 2008-03-11 05:07:48 pm

2008-03-11 05:04:20 pm

Well... let em upload some stuff first and then decide Wink

However yes, you will have to play all the level like it should be.. except maybe the very end

edit: the one that i want to show you is still converting, here is an example of the new thing i found:

http://www.vimeo.com/774919

I use time slow to position myself in the object until you feel you are stuck on it (its very very small) and then you don't need timeslow anymore.

edit2: http://www.vimeo.com/774871

this is the one that Might make you save time if you master it and do it fast, you can get there even before the Zep is in place... or maybe the stairs are faster (but not as impressive ;P)

I'll upload how to pass tot he other side when the wind is on soon (but it's worthless)

Ekelbatzen

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Ekelbatzen: 2008-03-11 05:59:36 pm

2008-03-11 05:14:33 pm

Hm...I think the normal way is still faster Tongue

You need to open the gate, run over the place, go up and finished Tongue

It takes about 13 seconds, beginning from entering the place.

http://www.vimeo.com/775092

But I think I will re-run it again, there are some lost seconds that would be easy to save...

zato

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zato: 2008-03-11 05:47:18 pm

2008-03-11 05:27:59 pm

That's ok, I'll download it. And yea I knew all I found was useless, but it was fun anyway Tongue

time to watch

edit: mistakes were very very small really... you should try jump down instead of using the ladder when you turn off the wind (yea quite silly) It went very nice.

edit2: heres the wind one http://www.vimeo.com/775074

Ekelbatzen

2008-03-11 06:25:43 pm

Saved 7 seconds now. I think its nearly perfect Grin

I also skipped all ladders I could go down, even when it was painful. Cheesy

Looking forward for level 22 shortcuts 8)

zato

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zato: 2008-03-11 09:45:21 pm

2008-03-11 09:42:37 pm

No Shortcuts.

I did find one that takes a lot of time to make, and saves... no time. So yea....

I tried to trick the train so you don't have to be without moving for so long when you activate it... to do so I placed a barrel on the train and then sit on it while pressing the lever.. the barrel pushed me out of the train! but guess what... I couldn't move Cheesy

So the doors closed and I was trapped inside, nice.

Barrel http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9250/barrelex2.png

Trapped Inside http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5803/trappedea8.png

I think though that taking the bloodhound (Rocket Launcher) is a good idea to take out most of the enemies that come out when the doors open. you need to kill them all in order to get going... watch out for the snipers again they are the main problem imo

zato

2008-03-12 04:45:04 pm

So yea... I gave the level another look and nothing useful was found, but that didn't stop me from messing around with the game once again

http://www.divxvine.com/42a8k491f8bu/5293761.html

http://www.divxvine.com/kv2ddbu3d2cc/8842367.html

I already found 2 shortcuts on level 23 though Wink