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Tub

2005-10-28 12:53:08 am

m00

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Buy some C4 put it on the wall, one loud noise, and voila, its gone.

yay, free swimming pool in your appartment!

sternn

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sternn: 2005-10-28 01:53:57 pm

2005-10-28 01:51:52 pm

:wq

I live in a 5-floor apartment (on the 5th floor), and I've never heard anything like that before.

If the landlord is being that much of a bastard about it to me, I would get the family to bring a few trucks (just rent a van) and move all your stuff out under cover of darkness. I would do this on the first of the month, or whenever your next rent period starts.

The next day, tell your landlord you are vacating, and that if they want their money for breaking the contract, tell them they'll have to sue you for it, and that you will fight it tooth and nail.

But then, that's just what I'd do. My old roommates have instilled a "don't put up with shit" attitude in me.

Short of moving out, I would also advise getting the word out about it. The local newspaper (op/ed or maybe even an article), maybe even a website dedicated to this, such as "xxxapartmentssuck.net" or whatever you feel is appropriate. Post a flyer here and there about it. Also, warn any prospective tenants you run into about it. They HATE it when you do that. Form an alliance with other tenants, if you can.

I live in a 5-floor apartment (on the 5th floor), and I've never heard anything like that before.

If the landlord is being that much of a bastard about it to me, I would get the family to bring a few trucks (just rent a van) and move all your stuff out under cover of darkness.  I would do this on the first of the month, or whenever your next rent period starts.

The next day, tell your landlord you are vacating, and that if they want their money for breaking the contract, tell them they'll have to sue you for it, and that you will fight it tooth and nail.

But then, that's just what I'd do.  My old roommates have instilled a "don't put up with shit" attitude in me.

Short of moving out, I would also advise getting the word out about it.  The local newspaper (op/ed or maybe even an article), maybe even a website dedicated to this, such as "xxxapartmentssuck.net" or whatever you feel is appropriate.  Post a flyer here and there about it.  Also, warn any prospective tenants you run into about it.  They HATE it when you do that.  Form an alliance with other tenants, if you can.

Sandbag29

2005-10-29 07:44:34 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Radix's story is too painful to bear. I had to drag myself back into the forums.

StrangenessDSS, I hope you use your new powers as resourcefully as Jar Jar Binks. DO NOT Press the Yellow Button.

Do you need anything besides $300 of donations, Radix? 8o]

Radix

2005-10-29 08:04:00 am

I'm addicted to games

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The next day, tell your landlord you are vacating, and that if they want their money for breaking the contract, tell them they'll have to sue you for it, and that you will fight it tooth and nail.

Considering I'd be skipping out of $4848 worth of rent, and my parents are on the lease since I wasn't making enough money for them, you can be certain they'd sue either me or them... or all three of us.

InsaneB4st4rd

2005-10-29 12:09:01 pm

Still alive...

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yay, free swimming pool in your appartment!

At least something...

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or all three of us.

How could they sue them? they arent responsible for you... Or did i miss something?

toltas

2005-10-29 01:49:51 pm

It doesnt matter what company has your lease, rest assured that they will come after you for every dime you owe them. If your parents so-signed the lease, they are totally liable as well.

I just had a similar problem myself when i broke my lease in Feb. because I bought my first home. I was 10 months into the lease, never had a late payment and then asked them what it would cost to get out of the lease 2 months early...they told me 1 months rent, so i figure hey, save a months worth of rent, totally worth it right?

3 months after I move out a collection agency calls me and tells me that my apartment company says I owe them over $3000 (my rent was 1200 (- 200/month as a "special deal" for when i bought it), so i was paying 1k/month). Supposedly because I broke my lease i couldnt get the "special deal" they were offering when i joined, so i retroactively owed them 10months i had already paid rent * $200 (the deal) worth of cash. They also threw in some extra "breaking" expenses which the office didnt tell me about. It ended up screwing up my credit because I tried to fight them on it and all they do is report you to a credit agency, who doesnt care what the problem is.

Eventually I went to court and had to pay an additional months rent (to complete my lease) and an extra $250, because of some breaking fee in my contract that I & the local leasing office missed.

So in the end instead of saving 1 months rent for leaving early, I lost 2 extra months, $250 more dollars, and had my credit fucked with for about 4 months. Really really aggravating and I still dont even have my $600 security deposit back even after repeated calls.

Your not alone in your apartment woes, thankfully I really love my new house and am now my own landlord.

It doesnt matter what company has your lease, rest assured that they will come after you for every dime you owe them.  If your parents so-signed the lease, they are totally liable as well.

I just had a similar problem myself when i broke my lease in Feb. because I bought my first home.  I was 10 months into the lease, never had a late payment and then asked them what it would cost to get out of the lease 2 months early...they told me 1 months rent, so i figure hey, save a months worth of rent, totally worth it right?

3 months after I move out a collection agency calls me and tells me that my apartment company says I owe them over $3000 (my rent was 1200 (- 200/month as a "special deal" for when i bought it), so i was paying 1k/month).  Supposedly because I broke my lease i couldnt get the "special deal" they were offering when i joined, so i retroactively owed them 10months i had already paid rent * $200 (the deal) worth of cash.  They also threw in some extra "breaking" expenses which the office didnt tell me about.  It ended up screwing up my credit because I tried to fight them on it and all they do is report you to a credit agency, who doesnt care what the problem is.

Eventually I went to court and had to pay an additional months rent (to complete my lease) and an extra $250, because of some breaking fee in my contract that I & the local leasing office missed.

So in the end instead of saving 1 months rent for leaving early, I lost 2 extra months, $250 more dollars, and had my credit fucked with for about 4 months.  Really really aggravating and I still dont even have my $600 security deposit back even after repeated calls.

Your not alone in your apartment woes, thankfully I really love my new house and am now my own landlord.

Sandbag29

2005-10-29 06:53:10 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Mabye on Monday, you dress up as the Grim Reaper and scare the landlords away. That'll solve your problem once and for all.

Strangeness, I have a problem. Nobody wants me here. Period.

slYnki

2005-10-29 07:52:21 pm

XXY

You're asking her to solve this problem?

StrangenessDSS

2005-10-29 08:11:17 pm

Sleeping Terror

You're right. You do have a problem.

InsaneB4st4rd

2005-10-29 08:33:04 pm

Still alive...

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You're right. You do have a problem.

And whats the problem?

/me is confused

Hitaro

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Hitaro: 2005-10-29 09:21:00 pm

2005-10-29 08:46:13 pm

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And whats the problem?

/me is confused

I wonder what it is Roll Eyes

Either that or he's aksing for advice.

Edit: Fixed link, I had the rwong thread

InsipidMuckyWater

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InsipidMuckyWater: 2005-10-29 09:00:32 pm

2005-10-29 08:57:06 pm

Visit my profile to see my runs!

I was confused, as well, until I read the Sonic the Hedgehog thread. Check it out; makes for a well-rounded example. Basically, the story goes:

Hey! I'm Sandbag! Hey! Hey! Do a run of Sonic! Hey! Somebody do a run of Sonic! Would you guys do a run of Sonic! I love Sonic! Hey! Do a run of Sonic! I think you should do a run! Why don't you just do a run! Sonic needs a run! Hey! I've got it; someone should perform a Sonic run! Yeah, well, I would, but I asked someone else, so they have to do it. No, I can't, dinner's almost done! I would love to watch a run, though! Hey! Somebody do a run of Sonic, or I'm going to get angry! Hey, do a run; I'm very upset! No, you guys should do a run! Sonic the Hedgehog sold about twenty million copies, so there should be at least twenty million runs! Hey! Is somebody going to do a run!? I think you're a very stupid dumbguy, if you aren't going to do a run! I never tried to do a run, because I never wanted to do one, nor said I would do one, of course! Well DUH, I, therefore, am absolved of doing a run of anything, ever, of course! Hey, why won't anyone do a run!? I asked politely! No, you guys are morons. I don't do runs, because I can't. Why are you irritated with me? What could I have possibly done? It's your fault there isn't a run of Sonic the Hedgehog, not mine. Hey! I can't get banned, because I like runs, and I like Sonic! You'll see; I'm right! A Sonic run would be, like, so TOTALLY simple. Heck, I bet I could pick up the controller and do one, but you guys just refuse to cooperate! Hey, what's that smell? Anyway, would somebody do a run of Sonic the Hedgehog before I grow old and die, already!? You guys are all, "I'm going to do a run of Sonic," and then I'm all, "Yeah, well, c'mon already, it's been two whole weeks. Somebody's gettin' five across the eyes." Dude, that was so totally awesome, when I said that. STOP HATING ME! I'm not annoying anyone at all! Sonic run!!!

Paraphrased, more or less, but you get the point, I wager.

EDIT: You know, I have no idea as to why I mimicked Sandbag with the ditzy, valley girl vernacular, but it works for some reason.

I was confused, as well, until I read the Sonic the Hedgehog thread.  Check it out; makes for a well-rounded example.  Basically, the story goes:

Hey! I'm Sandbag!  Hey!  Hey!  Do a run of Sonic!  Hey!  Somebody do a run of Sonic!  Would you guys do a run of Sonic!  I love Sonic!  Hey!  Do a run of Sonic!  I think you should do a run!  Why don't you just do a run!  Sonic needs a run!  Hey!  I've got it; someone should perform a Sonic run!  Yeah, well, I would, but I asked someone else, so they have to do it.  No, I can't, dinner's almost done!  I would love to watch a run, though!  Hey!  Somebody do a run of Sonic, or I'm going to get angry!  Hey, do a run; I'm very upset!  No, you guys should do a run!  Sonic the Hedgehog sold about twenty million copies, so there should be at least twenty million runs!  Hey!  Is somebody going to do a run!?  I think you're a very stupid dumbguy, if you aren't going to do a run!  I never tried to do a run, because I never wanted to do one, nor said I would do one, of course!  Well DUH, I, therefore, am absolved of doing a run of anything, ever, of course!  Hey, why won't anyone do a run!?  I asked politely!  No, you guys are morons.  I don't do runs, because I can't.  Why are you irritated with me?  What could I have possibly done?  It's your fault there isn't a run of Sonic the Hedgehog, not mine.  Hey!  I can't get banned, because I like runs, and I like Sonic!  You'll see; I'm right!  A Sonic run would be, like, so TOTALLY simple.  Heck, I bet I could pick up the controller and do one, but you guys just refuse to cooperate!  Hey, what's that smell?  Anyway, would somebody do a run of Sonic the Hedgehog before I grow old and die, already!?  You guys are all, "I'm going to do a run of Sonic," and then I'm all, "Yeah, well, c'mon already, it's been two whole weeks.  Somebody's gettin' five across the eyes."  Dude, that was so totally awesome, when I said that.  STOP HATING ME!  I'm not annoying [i]anyone[/i] at all!  Sonic run!!!

Paraphrased, more or less, but you get the point, I wager.

EDIT: You know, I have no idea as to why I mimicked Sandbag with the ditzy, valley girl vernacular, but it works for some reason.

Hitaro

2005-10-29 09:09:06 pm

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I was confused, as well, until I read the Sonic the Hedgehog thread. Check it out; makes for a well-rounded example. Basically, the story goes:

*humming Katamary Damacy's theme*

Paraphrased, more or less, but you get the point, I wager.

EDIT: You know, I have no idea as to why I mimicked Sandbag with the ditzy, valley girl vernacular, but it works for some reason.

You forgot how, when someone says "You do the frekain' run and stop bothering us", he says he's a *cough* "stratagist" and that he can't do a run.

Before he left for a while, he said that speedrunners were lame and they oush back "new ideas".

All his advices are either "Don't miss it once!!", "Don't wait for a minute to remember the route in that 3 hours long single segment run", "Keep doing that highly improbably event to kill X faster", "Try some dumb-ass strategy that someone already suggested but is slower" or "DO IT BETTER".

DK64_MASTER

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DK64_MASTER: 2005-10-29 09:15:16 pm

2005-10-29 09:11:02 pm

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I was confused, as well, until I read the Sonic the Hedgehog thread. Check it out; makes for a well-rounded example. Basically, the story goes:

Hey! I'm Sandbag! Hey! Hey! Do a run of Sonic! Hey! Somebody do a run of Sonic! Would you guys do a run of Sonic! I love Sonic! Hey! Do a run of Sonic! I think you should do a run! Why don't you just do a run! Sonic needs a run! Hey! I've got it; someone should perform a Sonic run! Yeah, well, I would, but I asked someone else, so they have to do it. No, I can't, dinner's almost done! I would love to watch a run, though! Hey! Somebody do a run of Sonic, or I'm going to get angry! Hey, do a run; I'm very upset! No, you guys should do a run! Sonic the Hedgehog sold about twenty million copies, so there should be at least twenty million runs! Hey! Is somebody going to do a run!? I think you're a very stupid dumbguy, if you aren't going to do a run! I never tried to do a run, because I never wanted to do one, nor said I would do one, of course! Well DUH, I, therefore, am absolved of doing a run of anything, ever, of course! Hey, why won't anyone do a run!? I asked politely! No, you guys are morons. I don't do runs, because I can't. Why are you irritated with me? What could I have possibly done? It's your fault there isn't a run of Sonic the Hedgehog, not mine. Hey! I can't get banned, because I like runs, and I like Sonic! You'll see; I'm right! A Sonic run would be, like, so TOTALLY simple. Heck, I bet I could pick up the controller and do one, but you guys just refuse to cooperate! Hey, what's that smell? Anyway, would somebody do a run of Sonic the Hedgehog before I grow old and die, already!? You guys are all, "I'm going to do a run of Sonic," and then I'm all, "Yeah, well, c'mon already, it's been two whole weeks. Somebody's gettin' five across the eyes." Dude, that was so totally awesome, when I said that. STOP HATING ME! I'm not annoying anyone at all! Sonic run!!!

Paraphrased, more or less, but you get the point, I wager.

EDIT: You know, I have no idea as to why I mimicked Sandbag with the ditzy, valley girl vernacular, but it works for some reason.

Best impersonation ever.

Sandbag, your basically the rich, cocky kid who wants everything and gives nothing. I don't care if you think that saying that every game ever made should be ran. You are not encouraging anyone to do the game. In fact, you are utterly discouraging them to run it. You're a troll, period. Well, that's what I see from what you post. If you didn't become so "I want this, I want this, oh Mommy, I pooped my pants, help me" then maybe people will take you seriously. There's your problem, now fix it! And maybe then people will start caring about you.

And quit hijacking threads.

Back on topic:

Any more news, Radix?

[quote]I was confused, as well, until I read the Sonic the Hedgehog thread.  Check it out; makes for a well-rounded example.  Basically, the story goes:

Hey! I'm Sandbag!  Hey!  Hey!  Do a run of Sonic!  Hey!  Somebody do a run of Sonic!  Would you guys do a run of Sonic!  I love Sonic!  Hey!  Do a run of Sonic!  I think you should do a run!  Why don't you just do a run!  Sonic needs a run!  Hey!  I've got it; someone should perform a Sonic run!  Yeah, well, I would, but I asked someone else, so they have to do it.  No, I can't, dinner's almost done!  I would love to watch a run, though!  Hey!  Somebody do a run of Sonic, or I'm going to get angry!  Hey, do a run; I'm very upset!  No, you guys should do a run!  Sonic the Hedgehog sold about twenty million copies, so there should be at least twenty million runs!  Hey!  Is somebody going to do a run!?  I think you're a very stupid dumbguy, if you aren't going to do a run!  I never tried to do a run, because I never wanted to do one, nor said I would do one, of course!  Well DUH, I, therefore, am absolved of doing a run of anything, ever, of course!  Hey, why won't anyone do a run!?  I asked politely!  No, you guys are morons.  I don't do runs, because I can't.  Why are you irritated with me?  What could I have possibly done?  It's your fault there isn't a run of Sonic the Hedgehog, not mine.  Hey!  I can't get banned, because I like runs, and I like Sonic!  You'll see; I'm right!  A Sonic run would be, like, so TOTALLY simple.  Heck, I bet I could pick up the controller and do one, but you guys just refuse to cooperate!  Hey, what's that smell?  Anyway, would somebody do a run of Sonic the Hedgehog before I grow old and die, already!?  You guys are all, "I'm going to do a run of Sonic," and then I'm all, "Yeah, well, c'mon already, it's been two whole weeks.  Somebody's gettin' five across the eyes."  Dude, that was so totally awesome, when I said that.  STOP HATING ME!  I'm not annoying [i]anyone[/i] at all!  Sonic run!!!

Paraphrased, more or less, but you get the point, I wager.

EDIT: You know, I have no idea as to why I mimicked Sandbag with the ditzy, valley girl vernacular, but it works for some reason.[/quote]

Best impersonation ever.

Sandbag, your basically the rich, cocky kid who wants everything and gives nothing.  I don't care if you think that saying that every game ever made should be ran.  You are not encouraging anyone to do the game.  In fact, you are utterly discouraging them to run it.  You're a troll, period.  Well, that's what I see from what you post.  If you didn't become so "I want this, I want this, oh Mommy, I pooped my pants, help me" then maybe people will take you seriously.  There's your problem, now fix it!  And maybe then people will start caring about you.

And quit hijacking threads.

Back on topic:

Any more news, Radix?

Psychochild

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Psychochild: 2005-10-29 09:18:13 pm

2005-10-29 09:14:36 pm

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I wonder what it is Roll Eyes

Either that or he's aksing for advice.

Actually, he behaved quite nicely in that thread. I think you were looking for this one.

http://speeddemosarchive.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=consoles_newer;action=display;num=1128655043

Which includes such gems as...

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I'm not letting an easily improvable speedrun remain on this site. This game must be improved. End of story.

Maur, you'll be on my back no matter what happens. You can't hurt me. I'm made of sand.

Radix, willing to tackle this run? Perhaps you ARE the real Dracula!

I'm trying to get this game improved by over 10 minutes and all I get are ghost dancers. I will not be denied. This game will have a 3rd (and much better) version.

For the 728th time. I am NOT a speedrunner.

And I don't make any money from speedrunning so you might as well forget it.

This place is for speedrunners only. They run out everyone who has an idea.

Good stuff.

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[url=http://speeddemosarchive.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=consoles_newer;action=display;num=1126397107]I wonder what it is ::)[/url]

Either that or he's aksing for advice.[/quote]

Actually, he behaved quite nicely in that thread.  I think you were looking for this one.

http://speeddemosarchive.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=consoles_newer;action=display;num=1128655043

Which includes such gems as...

[quote]  
 I'm not letting an easily improvable speedrun remain on this site.  This game must be improved.  End of story.

Maur, you'll be on my back no matter what happens.  You can't hurt me.  I'm made of sand.
 
Radix, willing to tackle this run?  Perhaps you ARE the real Dracula!

I'm trying to get this game improved by over 10 minutes and all I get are ghost dancers.  I will not be denied.  This game will have a 3rd (and much better) version.

For the 728th time.  I am NOT a speedrunner.
 
And I don't make any money from speedrunning so you might as well forget it.

This place is for speedrunners only.  They run out everyone who has an idea.
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Good stuff.

DK64_MASTER

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DK64_MASTER: 2005-10-29 09:25:25 pm

2005-10-29 09:16:28 pm

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Actually, he behaved quite nicely in that thread. I think you were looking for this one.

http://speeddemosarchive.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=consoles_newer;action=display;num=1128655043

Well by golly, there is a tiny diamond in the rough (sarcasm)... Be more helpful, and become an asset to this site please!

Hitaro

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Hitaro: 2005-10-29 09:21:15 pm

2005-10-29 09:20:04 pm

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Actually, he behaved quite nicely in that thread. I think you were looking for this one.

http://speeddemosarchive.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=consoles_newer;action=display;num=1128655043

Oh, my bad; I linked the wrong thread ^^;;

I'll edit it now.

Psychochild

2005-10-29 09:26:29 pm

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Well by golly, there is a tiny diamond in the rough (sarcasm)... Be more helpful, and become an asset to this site please!

... Can't tell if you're talking about me or the thread, so I'll just go back to my normal forum lurking.

DK64_MASTER

2005-10-29 09:38:17 pm

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... Can't tell if you're talking about me or the thread, so I'll just go back to my normal forum lurking.

I'm talking about Sandbag.

Radix

2005-10-29 10:32:32 pm

I'm addicted to games

How about everyone stops talking about things other than my situation in the thread that's meant to keep people updated?

Sandbag29

2005-10-29 10:34:53 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Do you think this will go to the courts, Radix?

Hitaro

Radix

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Radix: 2005-10-29 11:04:51 pm

2005-10-29 10:43:23 pm

*sigh* Radix already has enough problems...suppressing anger is hard sometimes ):

ProtoMonkey

2005-10-31 12:11:04 pm

If your legal system is anything like ours, taking this to court will likely take a long time. Your tenancy period might well have expired before any decision comes through. It's in their financial interest to draw things out unfortunately.

It sounds (from the video) as though you have a very strong case, but think carefully if you are considering representing yourself. The leasing company will certainly have a lawyer, who will undermine your arguments in ways that you might never have considered. I'm not saying representing yourself is hopeless, you're a smart guy, but these lawyers know the system and that's paramount, even above the truth.

If you do get a lawyer, and you win, whatever payout you receive will go mostly to them.

I am speaking here of my own experience with the UK court system. I can only hope that the US(?) system is more efficient and just.

If I understand the leasing contract correctly, you are bound to continue paying your rent (monthly or whatever) until mid 2006. If you move before then, you owe them any rent they would've made up until the end of the contract?

I find that completely unfair! If you move, they'll have a new tenant in inside of a week and net themselves a couple of grand pure profit. This could be abused terribly and is not at all in the tenant's interests.

This is going to sound daft but could you approach them and ask to renegotiate a shorter lease, while you look for a new place, due to the unbearable noise? Yeah, they'd be doing themselves out of their full-contract profit, but they are just people at the end of the day, they might be willing to listen. If they agree this would be the most desireable outcome. If they say no, you've lost nothing. A long shot, I know.

I really hope this is resolved quickly. Hang in there man.

If your legal system is anything like ours, taking this to court will likely take a long time. Your tenancy period might well have expired before any decision comes through. It's in their financial interest to draw things out unfortunately.

It sounds (from the video) as though you have a very strong case, but think carefully if you are considering representing yourself. The leasing company will certainly have a lawyer, who will undermine your arguments in ways that you might never have considered. I'm not saying representing yourself is hopeless, you're a smart guy, but these lawyers know the system and that's paramount, even above the truth.

If you do get a lawyer, and you win, whatever payout you receive will go mostly to them.

I am speaking here of my own experience with the UK court system. I can only hope that the US(?) system is more efficient and just.

If I understand the leasing contract correctly, you are bound to continue paying your rent (monthly or whatever) until mid 2006. If you move before then, you owe them any rent they would've made up until the end of the contract?

I find that completely unfair! If you move, they'll have a new tenant in inside of a week and net themselves a couple of grand pure profit. This could be abused terribly and is not at all in the tenant's interests.

This is going to sound daft but could you approach them and ask to renegotiate a shorter lease, while you look for a new place, due to the unbearable noise? Yeah, they'd be doing themselves out of their full-contract profit, but they are just people at the end of the day, they might be willing to listen. If they agree this would be the most desireable outcome. If they say no, you've lost nothing. A long shot, I know.

I really hope this is resolved quickly. Hang in there man.

Radix

2005-10-31 04:15:22 pm

I'm addicted to games

No, I already said I could terminate it early for 3 months rent as "lease termination fee". If I simply abondon the apartment without paying that, I have to keep paying rent until they find someone else... it's quite illegal for them to collect rent from two people.

Sandbag29

2005-10-31 06:20:48 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Is there a chance you can find other options for dealing with your legal troubles?

Perhaps you can win the lottery and leave the apartment just like that. Now that would be a story 8o]