The new Bittorrent download

2005-04-12 08:00:55 pm

A Crab

I certainly approve, especially because it saves me from downloading way too many separate files. I hope to see this option on more downloads.

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Gorash

2005-04-12 08:27:44 pm

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Hmm, for me it's not that effective...

I get ~250kb at archive.org but only ~150 at BT.

Btw. thx to the guy at Barnet College. Without his upload the bias would have been even worse for BT. Smiley

Radix

2005-04-12 10:45:00 pm

I'm addicted to games

Did you seriously get 1.5 megs a second? Or was that the total speed for everyone on the torrent? Because I see a speed of 1240k/s for the total right now...

Anyway this worked pretty well after it got started, the problem was that for 6 hours or so after I updated it was pretty slow, because there were only 2 seeds: me and nate. My upload maxes at 44 k/s and nate's is similar. When I went to bed at 3am there were several people at 65+% complete. When I got up there was 29 seeds, so it went a lot faster today. So it works great on day 2, but day 1, not so much.

Also for less popular stuff it would be pretty bad... although this isn't getting the attention it deserves IMHO. Only 4 replies at gamefaqs, compared to 50+ that my 1:37 got when it was posted.

KennyMan666

2005-04-12 10:52:54 pm

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I vote a total YES to torrent downloads for runs, since I've discovered that torrents are the best way 3v4r to download stuff.

Downloading at ~150kb/s down and ~80 up right now with 28 seeders and 59 peers.

Gorash

2005-04-12 11:37:41 pm

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Did you seriously get 1.5 megs a second? Or was that the total speed for everyone on the torrent? Because I see a speed of 1240k/s for the total right now...

During my download I saw another user peak at 2,2MB/s (was roughly 5pm CET.... too lazy to convert...)

Anyway, it's neat to get all served in one batch, but I don't like to wait for all the files to complete before starting to watch, nor do I like to tell my client to start leeching a particular file first (if everyone did that noone would share the last files).

And seeing how archive.org seems to have virtually unlimited upload capacity, I'll stick with the http download.

MrScaryMuffin

2005-04-13 12:47:48 am

Do you know the Muffin Man?

What would be good is if you get a few people to download from the archive and then seed it. Later on, you can eliminate the archive entirely (I'm sure it'll save you money) and have say...the first 20 people get direct downloads in return for seeding.

Polsy

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Polsy: 2005-04-13 02:43:13 am

2005-04-13 02:36:10 am

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Btw. thx to the guy at Barnet College. Without his upload the bias would have been even worse for BT. Smiley

thanks

Nice 10Mb/s line tends to work well. Only trouble is I don't like to leave it running for more than a day or two in case someone gets upset about it (I am one of the sysadmins and I know what the traffic graph looks like when I run bittorrent.

But yeah, on a good day, when the archive.org Europe link decides to use a Europe server (which isn't always), I can get up to 800K/s out of it.

Radix

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Radix: 2005-04-13 03:22:42 am

2005-04-13 03:21:59 am

I'm addicted to games

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But yeah, on a good day, when the archive.org Europe link decides to use a Europe server (which isn't always), I can get up to 800K/s out of it.

New stuff doesn't get copied to Europe until some point in the next day... i'm not sure when it happens. But up until then, the europe link would just redirect you to the US server. The us archive place has a 500mbit connection but it's pretty much at 100% capacity 23 hours a day. If you download at 3am eastern you should get as fast as possible though :-p

mwh

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mwh: 2005-04-13 09:33:27 am

2005-04-13 09:32:48 am

I vote that everything should go to blueyonder.co.uk -- on a good day, the limit in getting things to my office machine is the 100BaseT to the wall Smiley

More options is good. I should probably look into bittorrent one day...

Gorash

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Gorash: 2005-04-13 11:34:56 am

2005-04-13 11:34:20 am

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I am one of the sysadmins and I know what the traffic graph looks like when I run bittorrent.

I figured something like that...
Unless your college is organized way different from my university ordinary people don't get around to hook a machine directly into the main domain, let alone get access to one of the existing servers.

The T

2005-04-17 04:06:26 am

I think torrents are great, I use BitTorrent alot and it's always running. The only thing is, I download the HQ vids if they're available, so I didn't get the chance to use this torrent. Awell, maybe next time? =)

Radix

2005-04-17 04:59:00 am

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Nate usually uploads the HQ videos by going to his university's library and leeching their bandwidth... We dont have the connections necessary for seeding the HQs. It barely worked with this. Is it still going? I haven't seeded it in 2 days now and Nate stopped last night...

Tub

2005-04-17 12:25:39 pm

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I used it, speed was ok. I usually download bigger files overnight anyway. FTP from archive.org works for me, I only used the torrent to share some of my upload Smiley

The best solution would be to ask archive.org to set up a tracker and seed the files locally (local = their servers). Seeding won't cost them more bandwidth than distributing via http/ftp, but saves bandwidth in the long run. Costs some more CPU cycles though, and I don't know if they'd rather spend money for bandwidth or possibly new hardware.

Have you ever talked to them about it?

The T

2005-04-17 02:11:16 pm

When I said "maybe next time", I was thinking if the next thing is something Nate doesn't capture, so there won't be HQs of it. =P