The Evil Within

Magnum66

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Magnum66: 2014-12-19 10:11:08 pm

2014-12-19 10:09:37 pm

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Quote from zero shift:

As for the guy posting that fast time, he was probably playing on casual which would make it possible. They wouldn't know that each difficultyu is it's own category.

It's still not possible even on Casual. My NG+ speedrun was on casual and I have that almost close to perfect and it was 2:47 and I think a PERFECT time would be 2:45 or MAYBE 2:44. So 2:22 would be 22 minutes faster. So unless he found some insane skip he's not telling, he's lying lol.

Now if it was SEGMENTED and this guy was REALLY good and found a small skip or timesaver then MAYBE 2:30 but I really don't see 2:22 at all and I'm pretty open minded usually.

zero shift

2014-12-19 10:16:07 pm

Yeah I guess so. I've never ran it on any difficulty I just assumed casual would be way faster.
I noticed the guy didn't return to the topic. Could be one of the types that hates speedrunning and knew he's get a response. Same thing would happen if you went into ANY topic here in SDA and said you got 30 mins than the absolute best. You'd be asked to present proof.

Magnum66

2014-12-19 10:34:23 pm

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The new video:

Description: So I found a spot using the OoB glitch in this room where you can follow the wall along out of bounds and make it just inches away from the next room with the Ruvik trigger and his traps spawning. If you get JUST close enough the music stops and the previous room, the Double Keepers just DISAPPEAR. You can go back to the room and actually fall into the floor which is surrounded with blood under it. Doing so you can go around the room swimming inside the floor! It is quite funny. Doing this I tried to swim under the wall blocking our way to the next room to skip the double keeper fight and make it to the next room. Sadly you fall under the level JUST as you get through the wall. Sad

Maybe we can get something out of this though or make it over the small gap into the next room and also skip Ruvik's traps from loading and the cutscene trigger of him showing up. Enjoy!

zero shift

2014-12-19 10:40:05 pm

hahah why is there water there?

Magnum66

2014-12-19 10:41:32 pm

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Quote from zero shift:

hahah why is there water there?

I think it's from the blood they put under the floor that fills the room when you kill one of the Keepers. The pits fill with blood to slow you down.

yadehtsiyadot

2014-12-21 04:18:19 pm

zero shift

2014-12-22 02:17:19 am

Why the sad face?

yadehtsiyadot

2014-12-22 03:02:22 pm

I post on gamefaqs and try to help others in all kinds of forms.

zero shift

2014-12-22 08:48:02 pm

Welcome. You'll find this site far better than that troll infested GameFaqs.

I've seen you over there and I posted about this site in the recent speedrunning topic. I'm New Birdman over there.

Magnum66

2014-12-22 09:43:39 pm

http://twitch.tv/Exisidis2

Welcome Yadehtsiyadot, over here people actually talk with common sense, and mostly don't lie and troll.

yadehtsiyadot

2014-12-23 09:22:32 am

Magnum, regarding that OoB video you posted above, roughly how many medikits did you have to consume to reach that health bar?

Is that the max it can go?

Magnum66

2014-12-23 03:58:01 pm

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Quote from yadehtsiyadot:

Magnum, regarding that OoB video you posted above, roughly how many medikits did you have to consume to reach that health bar?

Is that the max it can go?

Yes that is the absolute max your health bar can go. I upgraded my health fully and used all medkits in the game. Which is around 4-5 I believe.

Shumarath

2014-12-24 02:30:21 pm

How going to the SDA forum instead of checking the games list for TEW didn't occur to me.. mm.. Anyway, thanks to birdman I came here, very encouraged to see that there is a thread with so many finds(what kind of beast is Magnum, heh), hopefully a lot more will be discovered.

zero shift

2014-12-25 12:32:51 am

Welcome.
Yeah Magnum's finds are always awesome. Check out his MGS stuff too if you're interested.

Magnum66

2014-12-26 10:42:40 am

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Thanks Shumarath and Zero! Both for the kind words and keeping this topic alive! I'm actually going to get back to glitch hunting this game hopefully tonight! I'm so determined to find new stuff now. I know there's more out there. Then when the DLC comes out I can't wait to mess around on it too. I also wanted to start a video series of defeating bosses in the game using Level 1 melee only. When I just get a new fresh save file ready at certain bosses I'll probably stream it.

zero shift

2014-12-26 04:39:13 pm

Is that even possible? That will be very interesting to see.

I know you can simply run circles around Laura and she can't do anything. Her one hit kill has an easy to dodge animation, but I can see other bosses are going to be a serious problem.

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2014-12-27 02:17:44 pm

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Amazing sequence break found! Now means many more are likely possible. First, let me give some back story.

I googled and saw someone got 10:53 on 1-1:

He didn't do any of the cool tricks Magnum found (that I could tell) but still beat him by 2 seconds. This does make me think this game is not suited for direct comparison between segmented and ss (so Magnum's ss 10:55 is like a 10:40 segmented). Anyway, he said Drake_94400 was helpful in finding some timesaver (I found out it was getting the knife in 2 swings) so I googled the name and came across a topic where Drake said he found a glitch in chapter 7 that saves like 6 minutes.

Absolute MONSTER skip that if any of you recall, I actually tried with walk through walls to verify it worked.

His two example videos:

Basically, the game doesn't check Sebastian's position and you can sneak in under the trap from damage infliction (the 32 second video is the best example, he just misses it first time). However, you can also use explosive bolts if needed in the longer video.

Drake's explanation (translated from French so a tad difficult to understand but makes sense):

"I passed several times with the same technique that I will detail:

Go with a grenade on the right side of the block.
This position against the block and throw the grenade against it so that it falls to Sebastian's feet.
If the hand grenade left, while Sebastian will be propelled to the right wall and it will not work ...
If the hand grenade towards the center or right of the screen, then Sebastian will be propelled forward and (in theory) that it will pass through the block (and that's good ^^)."

He's also a fan of Magnum.

"Otherwise, I have seen the video of an American who has found a nice OOB chap 11, but I do not know if it is suitable for short time pledge all or usable ..."

They however don't think the Chapter 11 sequence break works (as Magnum never went back to trigger the checkpoint at the start of the area in the video). Language barriers not helping obviously.

I do have a request. If anyone French can sign up here: http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-28698-69225-4-0-1-0-votre-meilleur-temps.htm

and tell them the following:

1. Amazing Chapter 7 glitch. Very useful.
2. The Chapter 11 glitch works but you have to go back to the start and trigger the checkpoint in the water. The water monster will NOT appear. It does work but works out to be like 5 seconds slower than doing the area before normally due to having to climb the building for such a long time.

It does make me think the chapter 11 break can probably be feasible now with Drake's method if there is a slight gap in the ground next to the left side rubble.

I guess that's sub 2:40 possible now. Smiley

Amazing sequence break found! Now means many more are likely possible. First, let me give some back story.

I googled and saw someone got 10:53 on 1-1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVG20MUFSwc

He didn't do any of the cool tricks Magnum found (that I could tell) but still beat him by 2 seconds. This does make me think this game is not suited for direct comparison between segmented and ss (so Magnum's ss 10:55 is like a 10:40 segmented). Anyway, he said Drake_94400 was helpful in finding some timesaver (I found out it was getting the knife in 2 swings) so I googled the name and came across a topic where Drake said he found a glitch in chapter 7 that saves like 6 minutes.

Absolute MONSTER skip that if any of you recall, I actually tried with walk through walls to verify it worked.

His two example videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzT8iPDmLAg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jor9pz90Dg

Basically, the game doesn't check Sebastian's position and you can sneak in under the trap from damage infliction (the 32 second video is the best example, he just misses it first time). However, you can also use explosive bolts if needed in the longer video.

Drake's explanation (translated from French so a tad difficult to understand but makes sense):

"I passed several times with the same technique that I will detail:

Go with a grenade on the right side of the block.
This position against the block and throw the grenade against it so that it falls to Sebastian's feet.
If the hand grenade left, while Sebastian will be propelled to the right wall and it will not work ...
If the hand grenade towards the center or right of the screen, then Sebastian will be propelled forward and (in theory) that it will pass through the block (and that's good ^^)."

He's also a fan of Magnum.

"Otherwise, I have seen the video of an American who has found a nice OOB chap 11, but I do not know if it is suitable for short time pledge all or usable ..."

They however don't think the Chapter 11 sequence break works (as Magnum never went back to trigger the checkpoint at the start of the area in the video). Language barriers not helping obviously.

I do have a request. If anyone French can sign up here: http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-28698-69225-4-0-1-0-votre-meilleur-temps.htm

and tell them the following:

1. Amazing Chapter 7 glitch. Very useful.
2. The Chapter 11 glitch works but you have to go back to the start and trigger the checkpoint in the water. The water monster will NOT appear. It does work but works out to be like 5 seconds slower than doing the area before normally due to having to climb the building for such a long time.

It does make me think the chapter 11 break can probably be feasible now with Drake's method if there is a slight gap in the ground next to the left side rubble.

I guess that's sub 2:40 possible now. :)

Magnum66

2014-12-27 03:19:06 pm

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Amazing. Makes me sad I didn't find it but oh well. Also someone should tell them I'm Canadian not American lol. I will test this glitch on stream in a second here:

http://twitch.tv/Exisidis2

zero shift

2014-12-27 03:42:17 pm

I can't believe it. I swear I spent time blowing myself into that block with no result though maybe it's yet another that can't be done on PS3.

How much time would this save? You skip both side doors now so that's got to he a huge save.

Magnum66

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Magnum66: 2014-12-27 03:51:02 pm

2014-12-27 03:43:48 pm

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I'm streaming it now. I tested it and timed, it saves exactly 5 minutes. Also same for me, I spent so much time blowing myself up in that corner too and never got that. Sad

Such a shame, but oh well still cool. Greg is about to test to see if it works on PS3.

Edit: Greg just got the glitch, so yep works on PS3.

Magnum66

2014-12-28 12:35:26 pm

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Magnum66

2014-12-28 01:54:10 pm

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2 new things I found. Both useless. (of course)

Shumarath

2014-12-28 04:14:37 pm

Very pleasing to see a proper skip.

Also nice finds magnum, could there be some potential finds with the angle of the spinning blades to be safe and not have to crouch below the last spinning blades in chapter 10, if you are in a "sweetspot" , probably not but..

I have wondered since release about the spinning blades in chapter 10 when you encounter two Traumas, specifically the one in the wall slightly below ground level, can you somehow push them into it?

Magnum66

2014-12-31 12:23:34 pm

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Found a new glitch in chapter 15:

Description: A new funny glitch I found in The Evil Within on chapter 15. If you stay to the left where I do in the pool of the blood, the spinning spike trap will pass you and not kill you. From there you can then roam around the level. Your camera is stuck though and you can't crouch. I step into a trap on the floor though to break myself out which allows me to get my crouch back. From there I crouch and disarm the floating bomb trap on the left. Doing this then gives me my camera back. I explore around and sadly it looks like you're stuck in here and can't go out of bounds. Still cool though. Also the lights on the ground from the eyes are disabled now and don't transfer you back to the start. Also you are now trapped and can't escape this room and the only option is death because when you get to the exit, the spike trap is blocking your path lol.

Enjoy.

Magnum66

2014-12-31 03:48:53 pm

http://twitch.tv/Exisidis2

Got the new The Evil Within New Game+ Single Segment World Record:

http://www.twitch.tv/exisidis2/c/5786877

Final time: