Teslagrad

2014-02-10 03:11:47 pm

I don't think there's enough charact

Hello all.
I was unable to find a Teslagrad thread on here, so I've decided to make my own.
I would love to discuss the game as I am routing it right now. A lot of tricks and shortcuts, but no glitchs to my knowledge was found yet.
The only categories that I know are 100% and any%. The difference being 100% getting all 36 scrolls, and any% only needing 15, at least until a sequence break is found.
I am routing 100%.
I've already thought of some time savers, such as abusing checkpoints and shortcuts using the blink.
There are a bunch of things that people should know, like:
* Being able to skip the intro scene by exiting as soon as you start, and reloading the file.
* On the 7th scroll, the bottom cube doesn't recognize you when you are ledge grabbing, making this scroll a little bit faster.
* You do not need the cloak for the 13th scroll. You are able to land on the branch from the second pillar from the 1st scroll.
So many things to find. I'll upload a full run of it whenever I am able to provide a full run.

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Hello all.
I was unable to find a Teslagrad thread on here, so I've decided to make my own. 
I would love to discuss the game as I am routing it right now. A lot of tricks and shortcuts, but no glitchs to my knowledge was found yet.
The only categories that I know are 100% and any%. The difference being 100% getting all 36 scrolls, and any% only needing 15, at least until a sequence break is found.
I am routing 100%.
I've already thought of some time savers, such as abusing checkpoints and shortcuts using the blink.
There are a bunch of things that people should know, like:
* Being able to skip the intro scene by exiting as soon as you start, and reloading the file.
* On the 7th scroll, the bottom cube doesn't recognize you when you are ledge grabbing, making this scroll a little bit faster.
* You do not need the cloak for the 13th scroll. You are able to land on the branch from the second pillar from the 1st scroll.
So many things to find. I'll upload a full run of it whenever I am able to provide a full run.

Patashu

2014-02-10 09:59:01 pm

Colour me interested in a run of this game.

ItsMarill_

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ItsMarill_: 2014-02-11 12:00:51 pm

2014-02-11 12:00:09 pm

I don't think there's enough charact

http://www.twitch.tv/itsmarill_/c/3705356

I have finished routing the game (A very rough route) and completed a run of this game. This time was 53:53. I am confident that I can get sub 48 with this route, and I'm still look to changing it.
I did find a new glitch that can cause a softlock on the last scene after beating The King.
If you were to hit inputs (I do not know what) on a certain frame before the screen is meant to transition, the game won't move the screen, which will lead to death since you are off screen.
Normally, this will put you at the last checkpoint, which can potentially be abused. However
If you were to do this when the transition is through a cutscene, you will die during the cutscene, needing to repeat it.
I only know of one moment where this can happen, which is the cutscene after The King, and since you're not meant to be able to come back to this place, the game thinks you've moved to the last area.
If you were to trigger the cutscene of you being UFO'ed into the crown after dying before the transition, you will softlock the game.

[url]http://www.twitch.tv/itsmarill_/c/3705356[/url]

I have finished routing the game (A very rough route) and completed a run of this game. This time was 53:53. I am confident that I can get sub 48 with this route, and I'm still look to changing it.
I did find a new glitch that can cause a softlock on the last scene after beating The King.
If you were to hit inputs (I do not know what) on a certain frame before the screen is meant to transition, the game won't move the screen, which will lead to death since you are off screen.
Normally, this will put you at the last checkpoint, which can potentially be abused. However
If you were to do this when the transition is through a cutscene, you will die during the cutscene, needing to repeat it.
I only know of one moment where this can happen, which is the cutscene after The King, and since you're not meant to be able to come back to this place, the game thinks you've moved to the last area.
If you were to trigger the cutscene of you being UFO'ed into the crown after dying before the transition, you will softlock the game.

ogam

2014-02-11 12:14:53 pm

Looks like truljin touched this game a bit, this might help http://www.twitch.tv/truljin/c/3543450

eldesteagle

2014-07-09 10:04:56 pm

Learnin to go fast.

Hey so I just started running any % myself and I found an interesting glitch which I highlighted and ported to youtube. Basically the glitch allows you to quickly scale ladders. I'm not exactly sure how I started the glitch but I do know it has to do with the blink boots. From what I can tell the glitch works by pushing against a grating and blinking to a wall with a climbable surface. You will continue to do the pushing against a wall animation but climb the ladder. I still haven't tried replicating it yet but I'm sure if we work together we can. Here's the link to the video highlight:

lillbrorsan

2014-07-10 09:49:29 am

Truljin @ Twitch

There is a faster route then what I used back in the day, should be on Youtube if you search around.

eldesteagle

2014-07-10 10:50:49 am

Learnin to go fast.

I personally feel like there is a skip or some other huge time saver that we are still missing. I feel like the Blink Boots are the key to that. I also think that it should be possible to save time during the intro section of the game by somehow jumping onto the right side of the weights. Maybe it involves a short hop unto the left side followed by a few more hops then a long jump.

MisterJack112

2014-07-13 05:45:51 am

This glitch happened to me once, really wierd.

I've decide to come here, some people talk about the game that's cool.

I don't know if you know me but I run a lot this game and I invite you to check my run on my youtube channel if you never done.
A lot of trick has find recently, I do not know if we found everything but it's a good start.

eldesteagle

2014-07-16 12:20:48 am

Learnin to go fast.

Your run was the first one of the game I saw Jack. Tis a pleasure to speak to you.

MisterJack112

2014-07-16 02:59:34 am

Yes in any% I'm the first but before that Meterre has make a 100%, his run was really helpful for me.

I know 4-5 people who run the game but no one post his run or run the game rarely and this is really sad.

Good luck for your next run, work the boss and some different trick and you can go under 35 minutes really quickly.

Rabram

2014-07-16 03:17:58 am

i'm also starting to speedrun this game in 100%.

i just finished to learn the route (based on the one you did MisterJack with 1 or 2 modification) and i need now to improve my skill.

i hope finish a run one day Smiley

and share with you

MisterJack112

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MisterJack112: 2014-07-16 07:07:16 am

2014-07-16 07:05:56 am

Well, good luck.

You have change something ? Maybe the 2 first scrolls I've do in backtracking ? I don't know why the hell I've do this 2 scrolls in backtracking. We can do this 2 scrolls after the first boss. That save 20 secondes I think.

Arturrian

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Arturrian: 2014-07-16 08:55:19 pm

Arturrian: 2014-07-16 08:54:29 pm

2014-07-16 08:53:24 pm

I also started running this game after watching your runs, MisterJack (love the reference, btw). Tonight I finally got my 100% to sub 1 hour at 56:34. My sum of bests is 39:50, so I obviously have some room to improve.

Is there any particular trick or scroll that any of you find particularly troublesome? For me, the big three are the bull, scroll 32 (the junk room), and the trick for scroll 23 (the robot/lava room). I probably spent close to 5 minutes on scroll 32 alone in my pb. Sad

Is there some setup I can use to get through there faster?

Anyways, keep up the good work, everyone! Here's to finding some more tricks to abuse. Cheesy

Moatman

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2014-07-16 11:05:31 pm

Wow the route's changed a lot in the past few months.
I think I've got scale skip down. You need to land on the very left edge of the scale with momentum, and then book it all the way to the right side and jump.
You need to jump pretty early to land on the edge, and it's pretty easy to mess up. Takes ~5.65 seconds compared to the 9.13s for climbing.

e: Well this is a weird softlock.
http://i.imgur.com/dkPsZca.png
Died to retry scroll 23. when I respawned, the top button is now permanently stuck down. When I move onto it, I just bounce around. Super weird.

MisterJack112

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2014-07-17 02:43:29 am

Quote from Arturrian:

Is there any particular trick or scroll that any of you find particularly troublesome? For me, the big three are the bull, scroll 32 (the junk room), and the trick for scroll 23 (the robot/lava room). I probably spent close to 5 minutes on scroll 32 alone in my pb. Sad

Is there some setup I can use to get through there faster?

I'm glad to make people want play et run this game Smiley

The scroll 32 is definitly the wrost scroll in the game. In my PB I do it so fast. I make this scroll after 25 minutes and this room can be ruined your entire run with a bad RNG/position.
I make always the same thing in this room (you can watch) that work 1 time on 2 lol. If you miss it's better to reload the room (I go on the bridge, the room on the left) and repeat the room.

For the scroll 23 sometimes I fall but this is rare. I've practice this room a lot because I take this scroll in the 100% and any% run. I don't know how explain my setup ... go over the edge, turn your cloak red, hold your stick left, blink and hit blue at the same time.
Same thing for the bull. I train this room so much. This trick is recent like some other one, I just train the trick before make a new run. For the bull (and the room with the scroll 20, but only in any% you skip this room) I take a landmark on the landscap. You know ... I know I should blink after a precise moment ...

This is hard to make a deathless run in this game this is annoying. Recently I have beat my PB in any%, I've make a 28:59 run (lol) but I have 2 death, I wanna make a better run deathless before post but that was an awsome run, I didn't expect sub 29 is possible, you need a pefect king fight for that.

Quote from Moatman:

Died to retry scroll 23. when I respawned, the top button is now permanently stuck down. When I move onto it, I just bounce around. Super weird.

This bug happened to me once, you need to reload the game for fix the problem.

And I don't understand the first thing you said about the scale ... you can climb more faster ?

[quote="Arturrian"]Is there any particular trick or scroll that any of you find particularly troublesome?  For me, the big three are the bull, scroll 32 (the junk room), and the trick for scroll 23 (the robot/lava room).  I probably spent close to 5 minutes on scroll 32 alone in my pb.  :(  Is there some setup I can use to get through there faster?[/quote]

I'm glad to make people want play et run this game :)

The scroll 32 is definitly the wrost scroll in the game. In my PB I do it so fast. I make this scroll after 25 minutes and this room can be ruined your entire run with a bad RNG/position.
I make always the same thing in this room (you can watch) that work 1 time on 2 lol. If you miss it's better to reload the room (I go on the bridge, the room on the left) and repeat the room.

For the scroll 23 sometimes I fall but this is rare. I've practice this room a lot because I take this scroll in the 100% and any% run. I don't know how explain my setup ... go over the edge, turn your cloak red, hold your stick left, blink and hit blue at the same time.
Same thing for the bull. I train this room so much. This trick is recent like some other one, I just train the trick before make a new run. For the bull (and the room with the scroll 20, but only in any% you skip this room) I take a  landmark on the landscap. You know ... I know I should blink after a precise moment ...

This is hard to make a deathless run in this game this is annoying. Recently I have beat my PB in any%, I've make a 28:59 run (lol) but I have 2 death, I wanna make a better run deathless before post but that was an awsome run, I didn't expect sub 29 is possible, you need a pefect king fight for that.

[quote="Moatman"]Died to retry scroll 23. when I respawned, the top  button is now permanently stuck down. When I move onto it, I just bounce around. Super weird.[/quote]
This bug happened to me once, you need to reload the game for fix the problem.

And I don't understand the first thing you said about the scale ... you can climb more faster ?

Moatman

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2014-07-17 09:08:16 am

Quote from MisterJack112:

And I don't understand the first thing you said about the scale ... you can climb more faster ?

You can avoid having to climb altogether.

It's possible to jump off the right scale & land on top of the ledge, but I've only managed to do it a couple times.

MisterJack112

2014-07-17 09:58:17 am

Ohhh you talk about that (the checkpoint is call "Scale" but I don't think about that at all). Nice ! I've try so much to make that lol. But each time I wanna jump and not just walk like that.
I've found a good setup, that's pretty easy.

When you see this spot you jump, and that's it.
But I think I will do some reset on this place lol ...

Moatman

2014-07-17 03:56:57 pm

I finished my first time through with Jack's route. This is so much faster! My PB with the old route was 41-something, this run was 38:28. That includes missing basically every skip first try, missing a few scrolls first try (15 & 3), and dying a dozen or more times. But, I didn't die on Guerickes or The King, which I usually do during runs. thumbsup

I don't know how to do the skip in the room with scroll 31 (Grand Design), though. Anyone have any pointers?

MisterJack112

2014-07-18 03:04:18 am

If you have only see my run 29:55 some new skip aren't in the run.

Mainly this two skip :

I make the first in my last 100% run but not the second, you need to take the scroll above in 100%.

In Grand Design you should turn you cloak blue, jump at the very last moment and blink when the kid become to go down.

Good luck for your next run. This game is not simple at all, the run as become really more complicated than I have expected at the beginning.

Rabram

2014-07-18 04:00:51 am

Quote:

This game is not simple at all, the run as become really more complicated than I have expected at the beginning.

That's why I started Speedrunning this game. It will add an additional difficulty which brings extra fun too. Smiley

And when I say that I change the route it's minor change like when taking the scroll 14, on your run, you die and pass by the bottom I prefer pushing a blue Volt Worker that blocks the cube and give me the time to pass through the top.

Moatman

2014-07-18 09:09:15 am

Yeah, saw those skips right before my run. Didn't get them. embarassed

I think I've got a decent handle on them now, though.
Thanks for the advice about Grand Design, it helped a lot. I think I was blinking too early.
Now, if I could just do these when the timer's on...

MisterJack112

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Quote from MisterJack112:

Well, good luck.

You have change something ? Maybe the 2 first scrolls I've do in backtracking ? I don't know why the hell I've do this 2 scrolls in backtracking. We can do this 2 scrolls after the first boss. That save 20 secondes I think.

I've fail a run. I have a glitch like on the eldesteagle's video, but an other one. I have only 4 secondes on my PB, but OMG. Just at the end, that was a deathless run ...
And sometimes in Grand Design I have a black screen just after the skip. It's happened 2 times when I was running.

And the trick at the begenning with the "scale" I can't make it on a new game seriously ... if I reload on the checkpoint I make the trick really easy but if I strart from the house this is impossible. Like if the physics change, I'm more heavy and I can't jump on the second platform.

I don't know if it's the same for you ? But I didn't try when I run.

Quote from MisterJack112:

Maybe the 2 first scrolls I've do in backtracking ? I don't know why the hell I've do this 2 scrolls in backtracking.

We need the cloak for the scroll N°6 yeah ... that's why.

[quote="MisterJack112"]Well, good luck.

You have change something ? Maybe the 2 first scrolls I've do in backtracking ? I don't know why the hell I've do this 2 scrolls in backtracking. We can do this 2 scrolls after the first boss. That save 20 secondes I think.[/quote]
I've fail a run. I have a glitch like on the eldesteagle's video, but an other one. I have only 4 secondes on my PB, but OMG. Just at the end, that was a deathless run ...
And sometimes in Grand Design I have a black screen just after the skip. It's happened 2 times when I was running.

And the trick at the begenning with the "scale" I can't make it on a new game seriously ... if I reload on the checkpoint I make the trick really easy but if I strart from the house this is impossible. Like if the physics change, I'm more heavy and I can't jump on the second platform.

I don't know if it's the same for you ? But I didn't try when I run.

[quote="MisterJack112"]Maybe the 2 first scrolls I've do in backtracking ? I don't know why the hell I've do this 2 scrolls in backtracking.[/quote]
We need the cloak for the scroll N°6 yeah ... that's why.

Arturrian

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Arturrian: 2014-07-20 08:09:41 pm

2014-07-20 08:08:32 pm

So... Here's a new glitch. Anyone seen this happen before? I have no idea how I did it. I also don't see how it could be useful. In hindsight, I should have probably fooled around with it some more, but I reset. =/

eldesteagle

2014-07-22 09:31:12 am

Learnin to go fast.

I noticed that with the recent Update Marril's cutscene skip no longer works, which is fine but it adds about a min or so to the overall time of the run. I'm so happy to see this page getting more attention now <3

MisterJack112

2014-07-22 11:36:31 am

In fact that work if you erase an existing files. On a empty files that can't work. That's why since the beginning I have always take the first cutscene in my timer. And the cutscene take only 45 secondes.

This is a convention on the game with the other speedrunner, to all the other speedrunner I talked it all do it with the cutscene so ...

And if that dosn't work with an empty files this is not fair. I always erase my files.

And Arturrian I have already see this glitch once from an other speedrunner : http://www.twitch.tv/dat_indubitably/c/4502231