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Ritchstorm
2009-03-05 06:39:56 pm
5 + 4 = 9
Hi there! I recently bought a Sweetpspot capture card from Andrew_Mills. It's great. I've got my Wii woking in 60hz just fine however I can't get my Master System to work properly. When my Master System is in 50hz it will run fine but in 60hz I get quite a violent bobbing going up and down. I've tried all different deinterlace settings and different video formats (PAL60, NTSC, i've tried them all!). Nothing works! Also whenevr I try and record something it never records sound (sounds going through my line in) and also is in a really wide resolution (720x240). It stretchs the image quite alot! Anybody have any ideas for any of these problems? I've tried using Dscaler default settings AND the settings the knowledge base suggests.
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Enhasa
2009-03-05 09:49:08 pm
everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music
Of course the best person to ask would be Mills since it was his card, ha. About the SMS, I don't have one so I can't answer, but I remember people having lots of problems with recording SMS before. I forget the details.

Are you hearing sound and it isn't recording, or you don't hear sound at all? For recording sound, make sure that your line in isn't muted by Windows (check in the volume). In the recording options, I have system mixer checked. For mixer line, pick line in. I also have disable hardware mute checked.

For the 720 thing, set the pixel width to 640. It's in the 2nd menu (your card) / pixel width.
Andrew_Mills
2009-03-06 12:51:30 am
AlphaStrategyGui des.com
In all honesty, I've given him as much help via e-mail as I can. I've never used the SMS on it before and when the PS1 had issues bobbing, I changed the deinterlacer to an 'older' one and it fixed the problem.  Undecided

Ritch, have you got the sweetspot_wdm_driver driver yet?

http://www.pluggedin.tv/sweetspot/support/downloads/sweetspot_wdm_driver.exe

Sweetspot modified DScaler:

http://www.pluggedin.tv/sweetspot/support/downloads/DScaler417p4.exe

I'll try and re-install DScaler myself tonight after work and see what settings might help with that issue and the resolution error as well.
Ritchstorm
2009-03-06 06:04:15 am
5 + 4 = 9
I tried the Sweetspot Modified DScaler but it kept coming up with some hardware error thing so i've gone back to the standard 4.1.17 and it works the same as before. I've got the recorded sorted with sound now so take a look at these. Deinterfacing used is "OLD GAME" and everything else is default settings. Recorded in Xvid and youtube decided that syncing my video would be a silly idea. Anyways it's not to show you that it's to show the bobbing.
50hz:
60hz:

When you are playing in fullscreen the bob looks alot worse than that.

[edit] I found the 64bit drivers yesterday Smiley [/edit]
Ritchstorm
2009-03-14 06:06:18 pm
5 + 4 = 9
I'm still getting this problem! Also, even though I change the pixel width in the DScaler advanced settings it always records in 720 x 480! Anyone know what's going on?!
honorableJay
2009-03-15 08:57:53 pm
The Dork Knight himself.
Have you tried completely turning off the deinterlacer to see if the bobbing goes away? It looks like the deinterlacer is starting off on the wrong field when it starts.
Tyebo
2009-03-16 01:58:54 pm
I just bought an Asus capture card two days ago and have had the same two problems. The audio isn't recording at all when plugged into my capture card. I've adopted running it into my microphone jack on my motherboard instead, and recording with Audacity (with software playthrough so I can listen while I play/record). I guess I can just mix the DScaler video file and the Audacity audio track in Virtualdub after the fact?

Secondly, the problem with the pixel width. The pixel height seems to be fixed at 240 pixels, and only the width varies. So, a pixel width of 320 records the proper aspect ratio of 4:3. However, the more I increase the pixel width, the wider the video gets, but it stays just as tall at 240 pixels. So, the aspcet ratio doesn't seem to be kept fixed. Is there a way to fix this? DScaler is useless to me if I can't capture at 640x480 or higher, as required for runs on this site...
Enhasa
2009-03-16 10:00:16 pm
everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music
In recording options, select full height instead of half height. Smiley

About recording audio, as long as you can get it recorded somehow, it's ok, but if you're hearing audio in DScaler then it should record it. If it's not, try something I said above, otherwise I'm no help and hopefully someone who had this problem before can tell you.


PS if somehow you can only record 720, you can shrink it to 680 later, although this is suboptimal of course. It won't be a killer though.
Tyebo
2009-03-16 10:10:57 pm
No, I don't hear audio in DScaler. We (my friend and I) tried all manner of fiddling around in DScaler and recording with each series of options and no audio recorded in the videos.

Also, what a simple fix for the pixel height. I feel so stupid now. Tongue
Ritchstorm
2009-03-17 08:54:15 pm
5 + 4 = 9
My DScaler records sound but I can't hear it so I jsut turn on my line in playback on my soundcard settings. Also with the deinterlace, how do I turn it off? It always has 1 of them ticked and yeah all of them are bad! I am planning on trying an XP install soon as it might be Vista 64 playing up just need to get my backup hard disk off my parents which i'll be getting in a week. Been trying to boot off a USB thumb drive but failing miserably! Sad

[edit] I have just been changing width on my videos whilst encoding them. Like you say not killer but realyl not great either. The dimensions seem alright on my Sonic Unleashed video. Not sure though. Feel free to look! [/edit]
Enhasa
2009-03-17 10:39:58 pm
everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music
Tyebo: If you're not getting audio, it's probably something in Windows. Make sure line-in is unmuted, and disable hardware mute is disabled (audio mixer in DScaler). I don't want to sound too obvious, but make sure your audio output from your console is going to the capture card, and then the audio-out of the card goes into the line-in of the sound card. If you are going straight into the sound card, the capture card will never "hear" it, so recording will have to be done separately and then mixed together, as you are doing (not a problem).

Ritchstorm: For normal watching, I use Greedy High Motion, but for recording, use simple weave (essentially "no" deinterlacing so you can process it later). If you are looking at the kb page, only the very last paragraph has to do with recording for SDA.

If you can't hear audio, I don't know why that would happen but check audio pin (I'm on a different computer right now but I think it's in the 2nd menu). I don't know anything else for audio other than anything I said above in the 2nd post + the kb article.
Ritchstorm
2009-03-20 12:25:44 pm
5 + 4 = 9
Yeah I know that just any deinterlace settings I use I get this violent bobbing like in my video for 60hz! Also even though I change the advance settings the width of my recordings is always 720! Even when I do half height it stretchs it to 720 width! Relaly weird! I'll be booting a version of XP soon though see if that helps.
Hattori HANZo
2009-03-20 02:59:48 pm
contraddicted
Quote from Ritchstorm:
I'll be booting a version of XP soon though see if that helps.


Afaik accessing a partition with a restore point or "previous versions" of files made by Vista with XP kills the restore points and the older versions of the files. This is due to different behaviour of the Volume Shadowing Service.
This could be interesting for you when you capture onto your Vista system partition. And I am not sure if just not saving something to that partition is sufficient to prevent the deletion of the VSS' data.