Super Mario Sunshine [GCN]

Bulblax

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Bulblax: 2006-10-03 09:19:11 pm

2006-02-04 09:07:32 pm

hi

Hi.

This run is currently on hold, see page 12.

I'm currently working on this run...you can always check my sig for progress.

Current goal is sub-6 hours but probably closer to sub-5

Segment times

Segment 1 (everything pre-shine 2, 1 blue coin): ~8 minutes
Segment 2 (Bianco Hills through ep 7, box smashing, opening Ricco Harbor and Gelato Beach): ~24.5 minutes
Segment 3 (Pinna Park through ep 5; durians): ~25.5 minutes
Segment 4 (Yoshi in Delfino Plaza): ~5 minutes
Segment 5 (Pinna Park finish, chuckster, coconuts): ~16 minutes
Segment 6 (Gelato Beach through ep 3; turbo nozzle shines, rocket nozzle shines): ~19.5 minutes
Segment 7 (Pachinko and Grasslands): ~4 minutes+
Segment 8 (Gelato Beach finish): Next!
Segment 9 (Pianta Village) - may be split
Segment 10 (Sirena Beach) - may be split
Segment 11 (Bianco Hills finish)
Segment 12 (Ricco Harbor) - may be split
Segment 13 (Noki Bay through ep 6)
Segment 14 (Noki Bay ep 7, Corona Mountain blue coins, airstrip, then Noki Bay finish, up to 119 shines) - may be split
Segment 15 (finish the game)

Discuss away...

Thread title:

Hi.

This run is currently on hold, see page 12.

[i]I'm currently working on this run...you can always check my sig for progress.

Current goal is sub-6 hours but probably closer to sub-5

Segment times

Segment 1 (everything pre-shine 2, 1 blue coin): ~8 minutes
Segment 2 (Bianco Hills through ep 7, box smashing, opening Ricco Harbor and Gelato Beach): ~24.5 minutes
Segment 3 (Pinna Park through ep 5; durians): ~25.5 minutes
Segment 4 (Yoshi in Delfino Plaza): ~5 minutes
Segment 5 (Pinna Park finish, chuckster, coconuts): ~16 minutes
Segment 6 (Gelato Beach through ep 3; turbo nozzle shines, rocket nozzle shines): ~19.5 minutes
Segment 7 (Pachinko and Grasslands): ~4 minutes+
Segment 8 (Gelato Beach finish): Next!
Segment 9 (Pianta Village) - may be split
Segment 10 (Sirena Beach) - may be split
Segment 11 (Bianco Hills finish)
Segment 12 (Ricco Harbor) - may be split
Segment 13 (Noki Bay through ep 6) 
Segment 14 (Noki Bay ep 7, Corona Mountain blue coins, airstrip, then Noki Bay finish, up to 119 shines) - may be split
Segment 15 (finish the game)

Discuss away...[/i]

Dragorn

2006-02-04 09:12:18 pm

I thought it was just a surprise party!

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Also *recalls nightmare of Delfino Plaza shine bringing Yoshi across the islands and into that hell river course*

I think you'd want to use the underwater-Yoshi glitch for that.

YautjaElder

2006-02-04 09:13:13 pm

Speed is the key.

You have a lot of planning on your hands here, man... Shocked

I wish you good luck, though. Wink

Bulblax

2006-02-04 09:14:34 pm

hi

I don't know of that glitch <_<

YautjaElder

2006-02-04 09:20:16 pm

Speed is the key.

From the Gamefaqs glitch FAQ for SMS:

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D- Yoshi/Mario Underwater/Delphino Plaza

Glitch- Yoshi/Mario Underwater/Delphino Plaza
Difficulty-Easy/Medium
Discovered by-??? From System Crash
Description-Lets you take Yoshi and/or Mario under water in Delphino
Plaza

How to Perform-
This is a fairly major glitch and also very fun and useful, God knows
how anyone ever came up with it. Anyway, to do this grab Yoshi in Isle
Delphino. Take him to the building to the left of the statue and take
him under the furthest left window. Now perform a spin jump, hold A and
push inwards towards the building. When Yoshi reaches the seam between
the wall and the roof he should float through. Now let go of A and
you'll drop underground into a dark blue area. Now start jumping
because if you stand still for more than a few seconds you die. Make
your way out under the sea, (sometimes you'll end up in the underground
pipes and have to start again) once here jump up and you should come up
through the ground and land on the ground under water. Now you can run
around under water to your heart's content. Once you come out of the
water you can't go back.
(NOTE: This can also be done with Mario alone.)

From the Gamefaqs glitch FAQ for SMS:

[quote]D- Yoshi/Mario Underwater/Delphino Plaza

Glitch- Yoshi/Mario Underwater/Delphino Plaza
Difficulty-Easy/Medium
Discovered by-??? From System Crash
Description-Lets you take Yoshi and/or Mario under water in Delphino 
Plaza

How to Perform-
This is a fairly major glitch and also very fun and useful, God knows 
how anyone ever came up with it. Anyway, to do this grab Yoshi in Isle 
Delphino. Take him to the building to the left of the statue and take 
him under the furthest left window. Now perform a spin jump, hold A and 
push inwards towards the building. When Yoshi reaches the seam between 
the wall and the roof he should float through. Now let go of A and 
you'll drop underground into a dark blue area. Now start jumping 
because if you stand still for more than a few seconds you die. Make 
your way out under the sea, (sometimes you'll end up in the underground 
pipes and have to start again) once here jump up and you should come up 
through the ground and land on the ground under water. Now you can run 
around under water to your heart's content. Once you come out of the 
water you can't go back.
(NOTE: This can also be done with Mario alone.)[/quote]

Bulblax

2006-02-04 09:24:41 pm

hi

ok that will certainly be helpful (if it's allowed) Smiley

trihex

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trihex: 2006-02-04 10:24:43 pm

2006-02-04 10:24:34 pm

Yoshi's eggs are at my mercy!

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ok that will certainly be helpful (if it's allowed) Smiley

Well, you're not going out of level bounds, since water is accessable, just entering unintended area within bounds. I'm not sure about that one, it's [Super Mario Sunshine expert/Radix's] call.

Yoshi348

2006-02-04 10:36:17 pm

dinosaur from the past

Picture or vid would help, although I know it's not easy to get for many. It sounds like it may be underneath the buildings where you're never supposed to go or something, which could be a problem.

FIERCELINKMASTER

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FIERCELINKMASTER: 2006-02-04 11:42:58 pm

2006-02-04 10:36:42 pm

No the Quail is not riding the Q

Well if you want to do this run you have my support.
Really this will all be about getting a perfect strategy..which is something I obviously enjoy doing.
So where to begin.. Tongue

I think using this glitch it would be like a seperate category thing..but I wouldn't worry about that since no one in there right mind would make a second 100% without the trick Tongue

Let me get a screenshot of what I think you are talking about..
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Bulblax

2006-02-05 12:13:21 am

hi

I was playing earlier and trying to get it to work and I couldn't...i'll try it again later.

StrangenessDSS

2006-02-05 12:25:41 am

Sleeping Terror

If going off the side of the building in Perfect Dark is out of bounds, using a clipping glitch to go below the level would definitely be out of bounds.

But that shine wasn't that hard... seriously. It only took me one or two tries to get there, and a few tries in the course itself. Remember, if you miss a red coin, you can walk back along the sides of the course.

I'd like to see a single-segment of this, if anyone dares try. Even with a few deaths, it'd be more impressive than a segmented run.

Amazing Ampharos

2006-02-05 12:39:16 am

I imagine it would only have value insofar as it saves time on that long section with Yoshi. Also, the shine out there is hard not only because it is actually hard(IMO hardest shine in the game by a fair margin), but because in a speed run going back across that narrow ledge won't be time conducive.

Bulblax

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Bulblax: 2006-02-09 01:26:19 am

2006-02-05 01:36:01 am

hi

Is it the building with the shine sprite in it, or is it the one with the pianta staring at the wanted poster?

I tried both and neither worked Sad

edit: updated, put 100 coin stuff separate

Bianco Hills Blue Coins

Episode 1

Spin the windmill nearest beginning of level (11)

Episode 2

High platform on path to windmill (13)
M near top of windmill (12)

Episode 3 Red Coins (do in episode 4)

Pokey near the lake on platform (14)

Episode 4

In midair in the village (4) (get this and drop)
Far out in the river (5)
M behind the house (2)
M on village side of white wall (1) (now go back up)
Balcony with two windows (left) (7) (try not to drop after midair red coin)
Right turret (3) (last coin above here -> shine)

Episode 5

Top of white wall -> spray M (6)
In a tree (27) (closest to far end of wall)

Episode 6

Top of the windmill pokey (17) (from here drop down and then hover to cave)

Episode 7

The two circles (22/23) (beat Shadow Mario first, while waiting for shine do this)

Episode 8 -> Start by getting Rocket Nozzle

Underwater x2 (10/29) (swim counterclockwise, using lily pads at some points)
Under the mesh (16) (rocket jump up)
High up on the tallest windmill over the lake (21) (last coin is near here -> shine)

100 coins shine (do in episode 8, start by getting rocket nozzle in village, note Yoshi fruit)

The two X’s (8/9) (go to the X, rocket jump over the wall)
The Pianta near one of the X’s (15) (X coin here, then him, then other X coin)
Alcove in the hill (18)
Tall windmill near the hill (24)
Plus-shaped platform way up high near Petey (20)
Where Petey was in episode 5 (28) (hard-> do w/hover nozzle?)
Bird (26) (around village, then get Yoshi fruit)
Pianta on the white tower (19) (rocket jump up, get this on the way back to Yoshi)
Yoshi’s blue butterfly (25)
Yoshi’s bees (30) (remember to get coins from bees too)

Also if you're wondering what the numbers mean, it's just the order they have on this site in case you have no idea what i'm talking about <_<:

http://homepages.compuserve.de/Kioliver2/sms_loesung/hill/blue.htm

it's german but the pictures are what's key

Is it the building with the shine sprite in it, or is it the one with the pianta staring at the wanted poster?

I tried both and neither worked :(

edit: updated, put 100 coin stuff separate

Bianco Hills Blue Coins

Episode 1

Spin the windmill nearest beginning of level (11)

Episode 2

High platform on path to windmill (13)
M near top of windmill (12)

Episode 3 Red Coins (do in episode 4)

Pokey near the lake on platform (14)

Episode 4

In midair in the village (4) (get this and drop)
Far out in the river (5)
M behind the house (2)
M on village side of white wall (1) (now go back up)
Balcony with two windows (left) (7) (try not to drop after midair red coin)
Right turret (3) (last coin above here -> shine)

Episode 5

Top of white wall -> spray M (6)
In a tree (27) (closest to far end of wall)

Episode 6

Top of the windmill pokey (17) (from here drop down and then hover to cave)

Episode 7

The two circles (22/23) (beat Shadow Mario first, while waiting for shine do this)

Episode 8 -> Start by getting Rocket Nozzle

Underwater x2 (10/29) (swim counterclockwise, using lily pads at some points)
Under the mesh (16) (rocket jump up)
High up on the tallest windmill over the lake (21) (last coin is near here -> shine)

100 coins shine (do in episode 8, start by getting rocket nozzle in village, note Yoshi fruit)

The two X’s (8/9) (go to the X, rocket jump over the wall)
The Pianta near one of the X’s (15) (X coin here, then him, then other X coin) 
Alcove in the hill (18)
Tall windmill near the hill (24)
Plus-shaped platform way up high near Petey (20)
Where Petey was in episode 5 (28) (hard-> do w/hover nozzle?)
Bird (26) (around village, then get Yoshi fruit)
Pianta on the white tower (19) (rocket jump up, get this on the way back to Yoshi)
Yoshi’s blue butterfly (25)
Yoshi’s bees (30) (remember to get coins from bees too)

Also if you're wondering what the numbers mean, it's just the order they have on this site in case you have no idea what i'm talking about <_<:

http://homepages.compuserve.de/Kioliver2/sms_loesung/hill/blue.htm

it's german but the pictures are what's key

alexpenev

2006-02-05 03:08:01 am

Yoshi underground won't be useful, since it's kind of slow to perform:
http://paultanney.free.fr/alexpenev/misc/sms_plaza_yoshi_underwater.avi

There's a small shortcut for the boats:
http://paultanney.free.fr/alexpenev/misc/sms_plaza_yoshi_boats_shortcut.avi

Bulblax

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Bulblax: 2006-02-05 09:28:21 pm

2006-02-05 09:27:34 pm

hi

I edited my blue coin route around a little...the first route was based entirely on just looking at the player's guide, this one I actually went through the level to find the exact placements of the coins....

Once you beat Shadow Mario, there's a few seconds before you can grab the shine, so might as well do something. Plus those O's aren't there in episode 4 <_<

Episode 8...man...that's 8 red coins, more than half the blue coins, a jump that's hard to pull off and results in death if missed (petey piranha coin), AND this is the best one to get 100 coins on. I forgot if the 100 coins in this game takes you out of the level or not (it doesn't in SM64)...I hope not.

Also, episode 8 needs Yoshi, so you can't do this level all at once. Ricco Harbor episode 8 doesn't NEED Yoshi, but there's a butterfly that needs Yoshi to eat it for a blue coin. Gelato Beach also needs Yoshi for a blue coin.

Trying to avoid revisits if possible (this level is obviously easy enough to revisit), I'm thinking do the first 9 here (all but episode 8 and the 100 coins), then get some Delfino Plaza shine (first bell tower maybe) for 10, then to Pinna Park. Although I dunno if the boat appears if you haven't opened Ricco Harbor and Gelato Beach. Another thing to check out <_<

Nice Yoshi jump btw.

I edited my blue coin route around a little...the first route was based entirely on just looking at the player's guide, this one I actually went through the level to find the exact placements of the coins....

Once you beat Shadow Mario, there's a few seconds before you can grab the shine, so might as well do something. Plus those O's aren't there in episode 4 <_<

Episode 8...man...that's 8 red coins, more than half the blue coins, a jump that's hard to pull off and results in death if missed (petey piranha coin), AND this is the best one to get 100 coins on. I forgot if the 100 coins in this game takes you out of the level or not (it doesn't in SM64)...I hope not.

Also, episode 8 needs Yoshi, so you can't do this level all at once. Ricco Harbor episode 8 doesn't NEED Yoshi, but there's a butterfly that needs Yoshi to eat it for a blue coin. Gelato Beach also needs Yoshi for a blue coin.

Trying to avoid revisits if possible (this level is obviously easy enough to revisit), I'm thinking do the first 9 here (all but episode 8 and the 100 coins), then get some Delfino Plaza shine (first bell tower maybe) for 10, then to Pinna Park. Although I dunno if the boat appears if you haven't opened Ricco Harbor and Gelato Beach. Another thing to check out <_<

Nice Yoshi jump btw.

Galactic

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Galactic: 2006-02-05 10:48:29 pm

2006-02-05 10:48:16 pm

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Trying to avoid revisits if possible (this level is obviously easy enough to revisit), I'm thinking do the first 9 here (all but episode 8 and the 100 coins), then get some Delfino Plaza shine (first bell tower maybe) for 10, then to Pinna Park. Although I dunno if the boat appears if you haven't opened Ricco Harbor and Gelato Beach. Another thing to check out <_<

I believe that it is necessary to access Ricco Harbour and Gelato Beach (in that order?) before the sea-going contraption appears at the outer canal docks.

Bulblax

2006-02-05 10:57:54 pm

hi

Ok. And I just realized you only need the 9 from Bianco Hills along with the original airstrip shine <_<

Galactic

2006-02-05 11:08:14 pm

The only question is; would that be quicker than just going for all seven Stages, then going for the sub-stages in Delfino Plaza, then going through Corona Mountain?

Bulblax

2006-02-05 11:56:06 pm

hi

Maybe. But for example, you should clean the big shine sprite on the tower before you go to Pianta Village...and do the river thing with Yoshi before Sirena Beach.

Zen

2006-02-06 01:06:20 am

Forward standard-by-ten .

100 coin shines DO exit the level, sadly. Still, I guess this adds time while making your life easier.

For the record, I'd love to see the glitch used, but it very clearly creeps into secret world territory. As for segmented vs. SS, I understand that most people here always love seeing SS, but honestly... this is a ridiculous undertaking already. I'd always rather see a polished segmented run than a SS with tons of backtracking and retries.

Zen

2006-02-06 01:07:44 am

Forward standard-by-ten .

That boat shortcut is even sexier than the underwater Yoshi glitch.

Bulblax

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Bulblax: 2006-02-06 02:16:52 am

2006-02-06 01:40:54 am

hi

I managed to pull that huge jump off, but it's still too bad because there's at least two minutes more of boat travel plus waiting for it

iirc there is an underground pipe that goes into the ocean, if that's close enough...but I think it was on the other side...too bad.

100 coins exits? Crap <_< Although it does split that large amount of collectables on episode 8 in half...village stuff with 100 coins, red coins and higher blue coins with episode 8.

It's easily possible to get 100 coins without using the red coins...or at least the high up ones...

This really screws Noki Bay over, though x_x Red Coin fish area has about 80+ coins

edit: oh and if you die on the river thing, at least you start only at the beginning of that again, not from delfino plaza...

although i'd definitely put that at the beginning of any segment.

Zen

2006-02-06 05:44:52 am

Forward standard-by-ten .

Hell, I'd make that and the pachinko (worst shine in the game for me) their own segments.

Mafus

2006-02-06 07:11:34 am

Yea that pachinko shine was a nightmare, I found the river shine a breeze in comparison.

FIERCELINKMASTER

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FIERCELINKMASTER: 2006-02-06 11:13:47 am

2006-02-06 10:54:00 am

No the Quail is not riding the Q

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Bianco Hills Blue Coins

Can you make one of those for all the levels? When I get the time I'll be testing all of them.
also...something you should watch: Goopey Inferno