Super Mario Sunshine [GCN]

2006-10-16 05:08:04 pm

I could my RGB port doesn't seem to be working so for the time being i'm using the cable from my N64 and playing through the aerial.

Bulblax

2006-10-16 08:43:23 pm

hi

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I think an ss run of this game could probably beat the segmented run quite comfortably if done well.

There are a lot of tricks that Dragorn doesn't use and just from playing around i beat his Bianco Hills time by a minute or so (whether i could keep this up for a whole run is a different story).

Mainly, for the hillside cave secret shine he takes a very long route when it is very easy to wall jump and hover up to the cave.

yeah, the fastest way is to simply dive over the water at the beginning and through the tree area, over the logs and wall kick up (like tip 2 in your next post)

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And don't forget the trick in Ricco Harbor, to get the shine in the cage without the rocket nozzle.

got it

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1) I always dive jumped and slid down the path at the start before flipping onto the cable then sprung upwards before hovering onto the wall. If done well you can just dive forward and you'll be right at the cable to get onto the bridge. You can wall jump and hover up the windmill and should be able to catch the propellor as it comes around.

yeah the other run does this iirc

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It is also imperative that you clean up the Piranha Plant first to get rid of those things. Mainly this will give you the freedom to deal with the plant as quickly as possible.

you mean around Petey in the windmill or around the village before he comes down? I do both actually

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The secret levels are going to cause massive problems in a single-segment run.

nah, not really. I'm actually pretty good at most of them now :x Still keeping this a no-death run in all ways possible. The only hard courses due to deaths are noki bay and ricco harbor. The ricco harbor one especially is a pain in the ass. The rest are easy Smiley

[quote]I think an ss run of this game could probably beat the segmented run quite comfortably if done well.

There are a lot of tricks that Dragorn doesn't use and just from playing around i beat his Bianco Hills time by a  minute or so (whether i could keep this up for a whole run is a different story).

Mainly, for the hillside cave secret shine he takes a very long route when it is very easy to wall jump and hover up to the cave.

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yeah, the fastest way is to simply dive over the water at the beginning and through the tree area, over the logs and wall kick up (like tip 2 in your next post)

[quote]And don't forget the trick in Ricco Harbor, to get the shine in the cage without the rocket nozzle. [/quote]

got it :)

[quote]1) I always dive jumped and slid down the path at the start before flipping onto the cable then sprung upwards before hovering onto the wall. If done well you can just dive forward and you'll be right at the cable to get onto the bridge. You can wall jump and hover up the windmill and should be able to catch the propellor as it comes around.[/quote]

yeah the other run does this iirc

[quote]It is also imperative that you clean up the Piranha Plant first to get rid of those things. Mainly this will give you the freedom to deal with the plant as quickly as possible.[/quote]

you mean around Petey in the windmill or around the village before he comes down? I do both actually

[quote]The secret levels are going to cause massive problems in a single-segment run. [/quote]

nah, not really. I'm actually pretty good at most of them now :x Still keeping this a no-death run in all ways possible. The only hard courses due to deaths are noki bay and ricco harbor. The ricco harbor one especially is a pain in the ass. The rest are easy :)

Mukki

2006-10-16 11:08:00 pm

I mean in the windmill. I wouldn't in the village because 1) first priority is to wake him up and 2) then kick his ass.

The only area i'd recommend cleaning up is if he falls behind the bulidings where you get the last red coin.

I was snooping around in the rico harbour secret and found a couple of things worth pointing out.

1) The blocks don't seem to be proggrammed very well. Hitting them from certian angles can make you drop straight through them.

2) In the seg. run Dragorn jumps from the first knut to the third. You'd be brave to try this in a single seg.

Bulblax

2006-10-17 01:18:07 am

hi

yeah I don't think I'm doing that jump <_<

you actually have at least 15 seconds though, between hitting Petey and when he comes within hit range, so clearing the area a little bit is good

Mukki

2006-10-17 11:29:49 am

It depends where you are going to hit him from.

If you are going to copy the current run then you'll be on the wall, otherwise you're on the ground and a clean up is possible.

For the moment, i'm going to play some more on Rico Harbour and see what else i can dig up.

AKA

2006-10-17 05:54:34 pm

He's back!

I have to admit now I've watched bits of the old run, how come Dragorn never belly slides, it probally would have saved about 3-5 mins over the entire course of the game. Its also much faster than LJing in SM64. I'm looking forward to any improvements and hopefully some shortcuts and glitches, since I would guess that there was no real attempt to look for glitches and shortcuts before Dragorn started his run.

Peppyman

2006-10-17 10:32:30 pm

I'd watch the current run to get ideas of the shortcuts.

Mukki

2006-10-17 10:50:54 pm

There's another, quite obvious, mistake in the current run.

When fighting King Calmari in Ricco Harbour, Dragorn pulls out its mouth to its full extent before letting go. In fact, all you need to wait for is his eyes to turn purple before letting go to do exactly the same damage.

Bulblax

2006-10-17 11:53:26 pm

hi

yeah, I know that too. he starts doing it that way later on in the run iirc <_< (he also wet slides more later on too)

gooper blooper is weird though, sometimes he decides to attack sooner and then you're screwed.

Fail Boat

2006-10-18 02:25:38 am

forum lurker

I wish I could help out but my SMS disc doesn't work. Sad

AKA

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AKA: 2006-10-18 05:02:33 pm

2006-10-18 05:01:48 pm

He's back!

I wonder if its possible to enter Corona Mountain Early somehow, that would destroy the whole point of the game Tongue

I would look for it if I still had the original game, but I didn't like the game enough to look for cool stuff. although its probally unlikely since 3D mario games tend to have gigantic invisible walls and ceiling boundaries as well, so the rocket fludd might not help to greatly, the most likely way is probally by falling below the Delfino and swimming up underneath Corona mountain entrance.

FIERCELINKMASTER

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FIERCELINKMASTER: 2006-10-18 09:13:52 pm

2006-10-18 09:12:17 pm

No the Quail is not riding the Q

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When fighting King Calmari in Ricco Harbour, Dragorn pulls out its mouth to its full extent before letting go. In fact, all you need to wait for is his eyes to turn purple before letting go to do exactly the same damage.

In addition to that...
All you have to do is get close to him... Then when he attacks you jump in the air and do a ground jump. You don't have to pull any of the tenticals.

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I wonder if its possible to enter Corona Mountain Early somehow, that would destroy the whole point of the game Tongue

No loading zone...btw I definitely have plans to run this game one day.

pyromaniac

2007-03-11 07:37:57 am

hey hey hey!!

bublax, r you going to finish this ss or 100%?? its been a few months now and i'm starting to think that you gave up hope or something

pyromaniac

2007-03-17 08:00:47 pm

hey hey hey!!

guess you have...

shadowgamer196

2007-03-18 09:25:58 pm

I was once a treehouse

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guess you have...

Look at the topic title.

pyromaniac

2007-03-18 11:44:37 pm

hey hey hey!!

its been like that for a while

WingedKitsune

2007-04-04 02:28:08 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

No need to worry about this too much. If Bulblax doesn't do it, I'm sure sooner or later someone else will.

The Single Segment will probably be completed first, since that route is easier than a 100% Segmented Route.

I don't really care anymore either way as long as it gets done at some point.

sausage948

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sausage948: 2007-04-04 06:58:25 pm

2007-04-04 03:09:43 pm

I feel like doing the 100% run.
I have a good route planned out, only no way to record it Sad

I just wanted to do it for fun at first.

sausage948

2007-04-06 02:17:18 pm

If I ever do this run, I will probably choose the DVD recorder (I might have one already).
As a side note, it will have to be on the PAL version, so the recorded segments of Bulblax wont go to waste (if his version isnt the PAL version too)

Bulblax

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Bulblax: 2007-04-11 08:54:23 pm

2007-04-11 08:53:30 pm

hi

oh wow guys i haven't been to this forum in over 6 months :p

oh yeah this run. Cheesy

hey I promised I wouldn't forget it didn't I?

likely I will have free time april break and summer, so perhaps I will work on this again...

well i definitely have the strategy down, execution I can work on, but the technology i'm still quite lost with.

first off I don't have the pal version or whatever the guy above was talking about, and I never did anything with the recorded segments, and third if I started working on this again I would start over because they sucked.

and I dont have dvd recorder, i could probably borrow one from somebody, but I dont understand them tbh. can you just record it on a cd or do you need like special dvd disks?

also I have no idea remotely what a capture card is so i wont even go there.

if someone else wants to work on this though go right ahead :p i have plenty of strategy tips or perhaps you have some i dont.

also about the pal thing i dont know what youre talking about, why would you need to finish it on pal if I dont have pal, and at the end you say if he doesnt have pal? o _ O

oh wow guys i haven't been to this forum in over 6 months :p

oh yeah this run. :D

hey I promised I wouldn't forget it didn't I?

likely I will have free time april break and summer, so perhaps I will work on this again...

well i definitely have the strategy down, execution I can work on, but the technology i'm still quite lost with.

first off I don't have the pal version or whatever the guy above was talking about, and I never did anything with the recorded segments, and third if I started working on this again I would start over because they sucked.

and I dont have dvd recorder, i could probably borrow one from somebody, but I dont understand them tbh. can you just record it on a cd or do you need like special dvd disks?

also I have no idea remotely what a capture card is so i wont even go there.

if someone else wants to work on this though go right ahead :p i have plenty of strategy tips or perhaps you have some i dont.

also about the pal thing i dont know what youre talking about, why would you need to finish it on pal if I dont have pal, and at the end you say if he doesnt have pal? o _ O

Peppyman

2007-04-11 10:00:57 pm

You need Blank DVD R's to record to Discs.