Ohh. I suppose you were just coming in at the wrong frame then.
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Updated a few videos in my strats playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTBjGIlxFHIPqwayVYlt1ogI3iy3Wn6Ag
Hypothetical is around 21:03, but seems unlikely in the extreme. That 5-2 is looking more and more like a bad joke to me...there's no way I could pull that off (maybe after power pak)
Hypothetical is around 21:03, but seems unlikely in the extreme. That 5-2 is looking more and more like a bad joke to me...there's no way I could pull that off (maybe after power pak)
It's more the damage you take that is worrying with your strategy. It's hard to recover from a mistake when you have several little fire dudes randomly jumping at you in the process.
I say go for the fastest 1-2. Even if you fail, you can still make the egg cycle that is barely slower than using Luigi.
I say go for the fastest 1-2. Even if you fail, you can still make the egg cycle that is barely slower than using Luigi.
22:29
http://www.twitch.tv/jeffrosledger/c/3177750
Later I had a run that was -8 after 2-2, but sadly it ended after another silly death in 3-1.
http://www.twitch.tv/jeffrosledger/c/3177750
Later I had a run that was -8 after 2-2, but sadly it ended after another silly death in 3-1.
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3-3 and 5-3 are pretty much the only levels with which I have consistent trouble now. Mouser's position is always a bit different, and Clawgrip is fairly random. I found a strat that saves 2 seconds in 5-3, but it's risky because you're small throughout most of the level.
I'm looking forward to bringing the warpless time way down soon.
I'm looking forward to bringing the warpless time way down soon.
Memorizing a general method for positioning bombs for Mouser is the best you can do for 3-3. You don't really need to memorize each pattern. I did fairly well against him after grinding him for a while when first learning. You should probably do some savestate practice so you can get different patterns.
Clawglip can be random but I'm usually able to kill him with the first two rocks he throws, which is only twice as long as a 1 rock kill (6 seconds x 2).
If you're out of practice there, it's easy to lose a chunk of time. Same goes for the 5-2 Birdo and Fryguy.
I'd like to see that 5-3 strat. I hope it doesn't involve running through the bombs at the start.
Clawglip can be random but I'm usually able to kill him with the first two rocks he throws, which is only twice as long as a 1 rock kill (6 seconds x 2).
If you're out of practice there, it's easy to lose a chunk of time. Same goes for the 5-2 Birdo and Fryguy.
I'd like to see that 5-3 strat. I hope it doesn't involve running through the bombs at the start.
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new warpless WR 22:54.0 yay: http://www.twitch.tv/ccaakk/profile
Totally awesome to see someone put my (very) old run out of its misery. A couple questions (they might be a tad ignorant as I've been out of the SMB2 loop for many years):
- In 1-2 wouldn't it be faster to use Toad and do the subspace turnip glitch instead of lugging the key all the way to Birdo?
- How did you keep running (i.e. holding "B") when doing the super jump while holding the mushroom block thing at 4:56 (end of 2-2)? I thought if you held B it would make you throw the block when you jumped. Or maybe I'm not remembering correctly.
- In the digging levels, how come you didn't do the "land on a shyguy and not have to dig the following row" trick? I thought that was possible to do on a console.
- Why Luigi on 5-2? Is it just for easier vine jumps?
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Oh wow, hi tmont...thank you for watching my run and chiming in.
1. I use the turnip strat in the any%, but initially decided to leave it out of warpless because there are so many opportunities to lose time elsewhere. I don't do that anymore though.
2. If you're close to a wall and facing it, the block has nowhere to go, so the game doesn't allow you to drop it.
3. I still need to research this, lol
4. Toad is much harder on console...I think it's the d-pad or something.
I sorta consider jeffsledge's SNES time of 22:26 to be the current record (since NES/SNES are pretty equivalent length wise), but hopefully I can improve my time soon.
1. I use the turnip strat in the any%, but initially decided to leave it out of warpless because there are so many opportunities to lose time elsewhere. I don't do that anymore though.
2. If you're close to a wall and facing it, the block has nowhere to go, so the game doesn't allow you to drop it.
3. I still need to research this, lol
4. Toad is much harder on console...I think it's the d-pad or something.
I sorta consider jeffsledge's SNES time of 22:26 to be the current record (since NES/SNES are pretty equivalent length wise), but hopefully I can improve my time soon.
I was surprised you don't go for the row skipping in the sand areas. I found it pretty easy to do when I was learning NES version. I was going to add it to the 6-1 route but found what I already did to be much more consistent. You should at least try it in 2-2 and 2-3.
By the way, I got a new pb of 1.8 seconds earlier today. The run was over 30 seconds ahead of my 22:29 after 5-2 but I accidentally picked Mario for 5-3 then died half way through. I still managed to be 18 seconds ahead but died to the bird door before Wart. I haven't gotten anywhere close to that good of a world 2 and 3 time since, so I should probably start practicing a lot more if I intend to at least match it.
By the way, I got a new pb of 1.8 seconds earlier today. The run was over 30 seconds ahead of my 22:29 after 5-2 but I accidentally picked Mario for 5-3 then died half way through. I still managed to be 18 seconds ahead but died to the bird door before Wart. I haven't gotten anywhere close to that good of a world 2 and 3 time since, so I should probably start practicing a lot more if I intend to at least match it.