Sonic the Hedgehog 2 for Sega Genesis

2007-03-03 02:40:34 am

Hi! I'm andrewg!

If It had a seconds timer, there would be a lot of people with tied records.

I dont have a sega genesis, but sonic speedruns look like they'd be fun to try. I think I might go buy one and see how well I can do a sonic speedrun. probably not well. :-[

stanski

2007-03-03 02:44:36 am

wise fwom yo gwave

eh, its all about memorizing routes/timing, just like smb, just with the added problem that you can affect the speed of your character a lot due to your actions, unlike smb.

Just pick up sonic mega collection/gems collection, that way you can play through all the different sonics. I could always use some competition if you do try your hand at sonic 2, especially so since i'm really really lazy with the IL table (at least 9 of those times are outdated by a second or more).

andrewg

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andrewg: 2007-03-03 02:50:26 am

2007-03-03 02:49:45 am

Hi! I'm andrewg!

I forgot I got a sonic collectors edition thing for the Xbox. I guess I could practice some sonic 1 and 2 to see how well I do.

I'm sure that sonic would be harder to maintain the speed... he is sonic... with some practice I think I might do well, but probably not better than you. Wink

That is an amazing run. Smiley

EDIT: i should practice one level over and over. Wink

MatrixTN

2007-03-03 03:49:08 am

You got a deletion wish?

Knock yourself out.

stanski

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stanski: 2007-03-03 03:56:13 am

2007-03-03 03:52:07 am

wise fwom yo gwave

If you want my shittiest IL to beat, try your hand at wing fortress. I hate that level, and the time isn't very good. You should be able to break at least 1:50 (i've gotten 1:47 on emulator but was too lazy to replicate it on console).

Vid of 1:48 by eredani here: http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/sonic_2

You can spindash through the barrier after the boss is killed like the TAS does at the end (i.e. duck down then quickly spindash-jump).

andrewg

2007-03-07 02:16:00 am

Hi! I'm andrewg!

So I can get 22 seconds on the first level. I guess it's not bad, I just dont understand how to do the beginning perfectly and maintain the speed until the "run box" (Dont know what it's called)

I decided to take an alternate route, it was kind of by accident, but I did not slow down at all. How do you manage to bounce on everything when you hit the invinsible box? holding A at certain times to get higher jumps maybe?

MatrixTN

2007-03-07 04:15:34 am

You got a deletion wish?

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So I can get 22 seconds on the first level. I guess it's not bad, I just dont understand how to do the beginning perfectly and maintain the speed until the "run box" (Dont know what it's called)

I decided to take an alternate route, it was kind of by accident, but I did not slow down at all. How do you manage to bounce on everything when you hit the invinsible box? holding A at certain times to get higher jumps maybe?

#1: I can't remember for beans what it's called either but I'd call them Speed Shoes probably.

#2: Press Down at the last moment as you're going up. I tend to fudge that up frequently.

stanski

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stanski: 2007-03-07 06:57:12 am

2007-03-07 06:53:30 am

wise fwom yo gwave

You have to have a reasonable amount of speed, and press down when you're halfway up the slope. If you hit the front of the invincibility box, you can just hold right the whole time. If you hit the back side of the box, you need to adjust in mid air a bit.

Do the beginning like I did in my recent SS speedrun, not like in the :19 run. Its a lot easier the way I do it in my SS and you can get :20 very very easily.

Someone is claiming :18 in that level. I have tried with savestates before to find a route, and concluded that doing anything close to the TAS is ridiculous. I wish he would submit the time here/show a vid, otherwise I will never believe a time like that, its just one of those times where its so mind boggling how you can shave another second. I realize I didn't do a loop jump at the end or a fish jump (fish jump is basically impossible i've determined because the platforms don't line up for you), but thats because I knew that I was going to get :19 without it from having done the level enough (I knew at about :13 that I would get :19 just by running right the whole time).

Oh, and if anyone is wondering, I'm taking the week off from sonic 2 and playing 2 other sonic games/castlevania bloodlines.

You have to have a reasonable amount of speed, and press down when you're halfway up the slope. If you hit the front of the invincibility box, you can just hold right the whole time. If you hit the back side of the box, you need to adjust in mid air a bit.

Do the beginning like I did in my recent SS speedrun, not like in the :19 run.  Its a lot easier the way I do it in my SS and you can get :20 very very easily.

Someone is claiming :18 in that level. I have tried with savestates before to find a route, and concluded that doing anything close to the TAS is ridiculous. I wish he would submit the time here/show a vid, otherwise I will never believe a time like that, its just one of those times where its so mind boggling how you can shave another second. I realize I didn't do a loop jump at the end or a fish jump (fish jump is basically impossible i've determined because the platforms don't line up for you), but thats because I knew that I was going to get :19 without it from having done the level enough (I knew at about :13 that I would get :19 just by running right the whole time).

Oh, and if anyone is wondering, I'm taking the week off from sonic 2 and playing 2 other sonic games/castlevania bloodlines.

andrew g

2007-03-08 12:02:38 am

so hit the front part of that box. ok.

It's just the beginning I cannot do. I will check out the 20 second one.

stanski

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stanski: 2007-03-09 09:48:22 am

2007-03-09 08:58:18 am

wise fwom yo gwave

Nate: new glitch, wanna check out if you think its ok?

Metro 3 trick

I don't think I'd pull it in an SS: the penalty for missing it is pretty big (death or 5-6 second loss). Never know though, if i can get it 1/2 times without dying, its worth it. Definately will improve the IL if its allowed. I think 1:24-1:25 is probably around optimal time.

Edit: oh, and the file name says sonic 1 but it was a typo.

Edit 2: oh, and I didn't find it. Upth is going to improve the TAS and he found it, and I reaffirmed it for real time.

Edit 3: oh, and I can do the same thing in metro 1. Pimpage!

nate

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nate: 2007-03-09 11:31:35 pm

2007-03-09 11:30:53 pm

it's just the same thing as the camera scrolling glitch as seen in the sonic 3 runs right?

stanski

2007-03-10 01:56:23 am

wise fwom yo gwave

Not exactly: the camera glitch happens, you pass through the nut, then as soon as you are about to get crushed by the nut (a few frames of error obviously) you jump, and then you pass through the wall and go to the area above you.

nate

2007-03-10 04:53:23 am

ah, i see. cool. well, still the same glitch we already allowed. Smiley

stanski

2007-03-10 06:17:50 am

wise fwom yo gwave

Alright, I just wasn't sure since in essence, you are going down to get to a part of the level that is supposed to be above you. Glad to hear its ok, I'll finish up some IL's for that soon.

Oh, and I missed death egg 12th hit by about 2-3 frames on the last hit. The last 3 hits are the hardest (I do 7 hits, 8th go through the rocket as in the first TAS), but at least this shows its probably possible.

And I'll start making 100% attempts next week again. Hopefully i'll keep a positive outlook this time :-)

nate

2007-03-10 06:18:55 am

rock on.

andrewg

2007-03-10 05:36:25 pm

Hi! I'm andrewg!

That cool you are able to pull that off, it looks really strange.

stanski

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stanski: 2007-03-11 07:26:12 am

2007-03-10 09:03:28 pm

wise fwom yo gwave

Woot! Got a 1:24 in Metro 3!

Metro 1 is too annoying to play with tails (i.e. i get to the point in the level where I perform the glitch maybe 1/100 times because of tails randomness... then I get the glitch 1/10 times...), so I don't think I'm going to bother with it.

I'm only 9 seconds away from getting the level table under 17 minutes, but I'm really really lacking the motivation to push it down below that barrier. I've gotten the times before to do it, but I get so sick of playing on console where I have to wait so long for it to restart everytime (yea, its like a 5 second wait, but when you restart at the beginning of the level a lot, that 5 seconds gets to be very very annoying).

Edit: shaved off those 9 seconds :-). I got a 1:50 in wing fort with at least 3 or 4 seconds of error, :50 in oil ocean 2 without using the illegal glitch, :21 in aquatic 1 (really close to a 20, if i didn't spindash slow at the beginning), :42 in mystic caves 2 :-). I'll submit these ASAP as i don't think i'll be submitting anything else soon.

Woot! Got a 1:24 in Metro 3!

Metro 1 is too annoying to play with tails (i.e. i get to the point in the level where I perform the glitch maybe 1/100 times because of tails randomness... then I get the glitch 1/10 times...), so I don't think I'm going to bother with it.

I'm only 9 seconds away from getting the level table under 17 minutes, but I'm really really lacking the motivation to push it down below that barrier. I've gotten the times before to do it, but I get so sick of playing on console where I have to wait so long for it to restart everytime (yea, its like a 5 second wait, but when you restart at the beginning of the level a lot, that 5 seconds gets to be very very annoying).

Edit: shaved off those 9 seconds :-). I got a 1:50 in wing fort with at least 3 or 4 seconds of error, :50 in oil ocean 2 without using the illegal glitch, :21 in aquatic 1 (really close to a 20, if i didn't spindash slow at the beginning), :42 in mystic caves 2 :-). I'll submit these ASAP as i don't think i'll be submitting anything else soon.

Frezy_man

2007-03-11 07:17:10 am

bläää

crazy

MatrixTN

2007-03-11 07:31:23 am

You got a deletion wish?

(hums s3&k 1up theme) Good god!

stanski

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stanski: 2007-03-13 06:20:10 am

2007-03-13 06:17:27 am

wise fwom yo gwave

Interesting thing I found, I was over at my grampa's today and started playing sonic 2 on the compilation version he has (its a genesis cart titled sonic classics 3 in 1), and the fuckers raised the oil in oil ocean 1 and 2 so that you couldn't travel under the platforms. I looked like a complete idiot trying to get through oil ocean 1 (I think i ended up with a 1:55 or so), as I haven't used anything but the oil route in probably 6 months.

Useless and random, but I just found it kind of interesting that this would be the only fuck up that they fixed, and only in this version.

And aitamen is calling :18 EH1 at TSC. I can't get on the damn platforms for the fish jump ever (its not hard if you get on it), so this is one time I will never have a shot at :-(. :19 was supposed to be perfect, I really wish he would make a vid and submit it here.

Qrimmer

2007-03-13 10:12:14 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

How can this fella "claim" 0.18 and not post a video? Is it a secret club?

stanski

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stanski: 2007-03-13 10:19:06 pm

2007-03-13 10:18:26 pm

wise fwom yo gwave

TSC doesn't require video proof. It goes on a trust basis for the most part, and the verification method is basically if it looks really really ridiculous and the person hasn't put up other good times, then it isn't accepted. I compete there just because most of the guys are trustworthy and its a lot of fun doing score attacking as well.

I suppose I can't doubt that he got :18, because some of my times would probably look pretty ridiculous without vids as well.

Qrimmer

2007-03-13 10:37:50 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

you're still my sonic God, no matter what.

AKA

2007-03-13 11:03:45 pm

He's back!

TSC also accepts runs done on emu as well.

Gamer_3.0

2007-03-14 03:01:42 am

I am planning on a Sonic 2 speed run in the summer maybe. 29:17 is my best. I can save a bunch of time in the Metropolis level though.