Sonic the Hedgehog 2 for Sega Genesis

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nate: 2006-08-26 02:23:22 am

2006-08-26 02:22:56 am

hahaha. just shut off the sound man (you have to still record it though). i did all my i-ls listening to the newest girls aloud album (chemistry).

but yeah i agree hill top is annoying even without the sound.

MatrixTN

2006-08-26 03:47:44 am

You got a deletion wish?

I do similar playing Mega Man 3 (remix of Lava Reef in Shadow's stage, Magmoor Caverns for revisited, just because there's lava in the background)

nate

2006-08-26 06:10:02 am

got your first tape, stanski, but next time, don't put a label over the tape door. i had to rip through it so it could open inside my vcr. runs look good though.

stanski

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stanski: 2006-08-27 01:46:20 am

2006-08-27 01:44:54 am

wise fwom yo gwave

which one is the tape door, the top thing? I thought i put it on the right side, but oh well. Sending in more runs on monday i think.

1:07 on hill top 2, I could get 1:05 if i spent another hour, but i honestly don't have the patience to wait for an absolutely perfect run on it. Too much of a pain, and i really want to do my single segment soon so i'm going to work on mystic caves/oil ocean/metropolis more.

And just want to make sure, is death egg 49? I know it changed to 49 and pretty late, so there was plenty of leeway, but idk how you time death egg to see if its really 49.

nate

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nate: 2006-08-27 02:42:25 am

2006-08-27 02:41:42 am

it was 49. and you put labels all over the freaking tape, there were at least three on there iirc, one was over the joint of the door so it couldn't open. one side label will suffice, don't even have to worry about writing where things are on the tape itself if you include a sheet with it. congrats on the new time and ... i must have been asleep because this is the first i'd heard you're working on an ss! that's really great news, here's hoping you come up with something really insane/unbeatable.

mike89

2006-08-27 03:56:47 am

SEGA Junkie

Oh, nothing is unbeatable... =P

nate

2006-08-27 04:49:33 am

if it were anyone else, i would argue.

stanski

2006-08-27 06:24:23 am

wise fwom yo gwave

Blame it on radix. His speach in the submission thing really scared the crap out of me, so i wanted to make definate sure you knew where to find everything.

I'll be sure to not label so much in the future, but the tape i sent out on friday had 2 labels, sorry about that. I won't do so many in the future. And yes, the whole point of working on the ir's was to eventually build up to an ss, i'm hoping to beat mike89's emu run that he did without savestates/slowdown.

nate

2006-08-27 07:03:15 am

it's ok, those speeches are because of people far thicker than you. and i'm ok with reaping the whirlwind after he calls down the fury if it gets me these excellent sonic runs to boot.

and i thought you would be aiming higher than that for the ss.

stanski

2006-08-27 08:28:52 am

wise fwom yo gwave

How high should i aim? I thought mike's run was pretty good (never actually watched it)? Idk, you've seen my ir's, so you know that it will take a lot of attempts and a ton of time before i'm happy (otherwise 23 on aquatic would have never happened, i could have been happy with 25, but no!).

mike89

2006-08-27 09:06:26 am

SEGA Junkie

Eh, my run had its errors, notably a 20 second loss on Casino Night 1. And I don't like attacking the final boss from behind at the end of a SS run, so there's another few seconds you could pick up there if you were game to do so.

Other than that, I wish you good luck.

nate

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nate: 2006-08-27 03:54:56 pm

2006-08-27 03:54:41 pm

twenty seconds over that emulated one would be a very good improvement i think. basically iron out the errors so nothing major remains and then that's a (mostly) unbeatable run.

i think very few people truly understand what is going on here.

stanski

2006-08-28 11:02:12 pm

wise fwom yo gwave

I wouldn't attack from behind, I have a 9 hit from the front/3 hit on first fall strategy to kill him with ok time. I'm going to do a run with sonic and tails, would this count in the same catagory? If not, I'll just do 2 runs of it, one with sonic and tails, and one with tails alone.

MatrixTN

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MatrixTN: 2006-08-28 11:58:19 pm

2006-08-28 11:56:11 pm

You got a deletion wish?

My thoughts would be "no" on that. The reasons being: As Sonic w/Tails, you can run faster on the nuts in Metropolis; As Tails solo, as aforementioned you can't spindash on the totems in AR2 as him cause he'll just do the balancing act on them. Also, I recall Radix saying that SS's of Sonic w/Tails and without would be separate categories because of #1, don't remember if Sonic/Tails solo would be considered separate as well (#2 is the only difference I see as far as they go).

stanski

2006-08-29 11:17:23 pm

wise fwom yo gwave

Good call on the tails, didn't even think about that. I just like tails more times than not because his size is advantageous, but that completely kills any advantage.
That means I will do 2 runs though, one with sonic and tails, and one with just sonic.

I'm still not sure about attacking from the front on death egg though, but it doesn't matter when you get the flaming screen of death on metal sonic during an ss today (so annoying). The run wasn't THAT good...but still. Attacking from the back might be better just because I can get 9 hits very easily as long as the 3rd hit is clean. If its not clean, obviously I die and am screwed.

1:06 on metropolis 1 achieved, obviously with sonic and tails, but its still a time I am extremely proud of. I think I can cut some time from the other metropolis levels/mystic cave as well (oil ocean is now a maybe... they're such hard levels though to get perfect).

MatrixTN

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MatrixTN: 2006-08-29 11:21:00 pm

2006-08-29 11:20:31 pm

You got a deletion wish?

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I'm still not sure about attacking from the front on death egg though, but it doesn't matter when you get the flaming screen of death on metal sonic during an ss today (so annoying). The run wasn't THAT good...but still. Attacking from the back might be better just because I can get 9 hits very easily as long as the 3rd hit is clean. If its not clean, obviously I die and am screwed.

I can't attack from behind for beans. If it works for you, do it.

Edit: Where's our green friend? (page breaker)

nate

2006-08-30 01:34:19 am

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flaming screen of death on metal sonic during an ss

yikes.

stanski

2006-09-05 10:48:37 pm

wise fwom yo gwave

Oil Ocean 1: 39
Oil Ocean 2: 54
Mystic cave 1: 40
Aquatic 2: 45

In mystic caves, I have no idea why but I can't get anywhere near the soniccenter record. If anyone knows the route that I'm missing, please tell me because i'm just not getting it.

Aquatic 2 I cannot get that damn spring jump that is optimal/the tas does. Still made up plenty of time without it though.

Single segment attempts are being done everyday, I keep dying in either hill top 1 (the very beginning with the first spikey guy), oil ocean 2, metropolis, or randomly getting pushed into walls. I'll get a good one in eventually, and I think i can shave some time off the metropolis levels/mystic caves 2.

stanski

2006-09-05 11:07:47 pm

wise fwom yo gwave

and btw, you are all going to laugh at me when you see the oil ocean 2 run. I got so fricking lucky to have tails hit the safe at the end of the level, I tried to spindash to lose my super jump, didn't lose it for some reason, jumped and completely missed. Tails saved me about a second by hitting it for me, and you can tell he hit it since his jumping is always timed after yours at a certain frame and he lands right where I stand after the level is done. Lucky, but i'll take that second!

nate

2006-09-05 11:42:39 pm

lol, tails did that for me in at least one of my i-ls. good to hear you're still rocking. i look forward to showing your records to the world.

InsipidMuckyWater

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InsipidMuckyWater: 2006-09-06 04:12:06 am

2006-09-06 02:16:09 am

Visit my profile to see my runs!

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lol, tails did that for me in at least one of my i-ls.

That would be Aquatic Ruin Zone 2, no?

Yes, stanski has really helped push the classic Sonic game campaign to new levels.

EDIT: Still, an amazing collection of Sonic 2 runs are worth as much to me as a premiere collection of say Sonic 1 runs, right now. Besides, Sonic 1 and 3 will both come, in time. The more updates on Sonic games in general we have, the more interest in the franchise. Remember, many of the Sonic runs we have originated after Nate's New Year's bomb. So keep it up! Wink

stanski

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stanski: 2006-09-06 03:51:05 am

2006-09-06 03:50:22 am

wise fwom yo gwave

Unfortunately its all on the same game. Its really unfortunate that my best sonic game is one that already had a speedrun up on here, but I know for a fact that I was not even close to as good at the game as I am now (i had only beat death egg 5 times before I started taking the game serious for a speedrun). I'm ok at sonic 1, but my ir's are not progressing quite as quickly as i'd like. I'm very happy with my ir's in sonic 2, especially oil ocean 1, casino 2, and death egg, but I'd like to get that ss completed really well. I seem to be taking too many risks right now however.

Does anyone have mike89's ir's for his single segment on an emulator? I'd just like to know what times i should be shooting for on these levels.

nate

2006-09-06 05:10:16 am

kochi da to omou:

http://nate.quandra.org/[SO]%20[TSC]%20Sonic%202%20Marathon%202k5.wmv

mike89

2006-09-06 05:28:02 am

SEGA Junkie

Oh, and ignore Casino Night 1. I missed a key jump there which cost me the 20 seconds I was talking about earlier. You're meant to take the high path (you did a CN1 IL run, right? use that for reference).

stanski

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stanski: 2006-09-07 07:06:17 am

2006-09-07 07:01:31 am

wise fwom yo gwave

Did a practice run today, made it with no deaths but a bunch of stupid mistakes (az 1 and cn1 stick out). you can tell which i haven't time attacked, mc2, metr 2,3 because they suck. Death egg was a 10-2 strategy, also have a 9-3 and 8-3-1 planned depending on how good the run looks.

sonic+tails

gh:21
gh2:43
cp:25
cp2:1:06
az:28
az2:50 (pretty hard/lucky)
cn1:54
cn2:1:09 (landed a 7 bagger)
Ht1: 58
Ht2: 1:17
Mc1: 44
Mc2: 1:01
Oo1: 47
Oo2: 59 (lucky i didn't die here)
met1: 1:19
met2:1:38
met3: 2:36
2:06
w:2:12
DE: 51
Total: 22:24

This run was pretty shitty though. I think I'm going to shoot for under 22ish, around 21:45 or so but this is only the very beginning of practicing single segments so idk how far down i can go. Need to practice/optimize those 3 levels and we'll be good to go. Still took almost 2 minutes off the current run without even doing spectacularly (but i was using tails)(if my addition is correct that is?).

And thanks for mikes run, that gives me some times to run off of. Do have to factor in that your cp1 and az1 runs would have been better had you not tried to save real tie. Are you allowed to pause the game to use the bathroom and such during an ss?

Did a practice run today, made it with no deaths but a bunch of stupid mistakes (az 1 and cn1 stick out). you can tell which i haven't time attacked, mc2, metr 2,3 because they suck. Death egg was a 10-2 strategy, also have a 9-3 and 8-3-1 planned depending on how good the run looks.

sonic+tails

gh:21
gh2:43
cp:25
cp2:1:06
az:28
az2:50 (pretty hard/lucky)
cn1:54
cn2:1:09 (landed a 7 bagger)
Ht1: 58
Ht2: 1:17
Mc1: 44
Mc2: 1:01
Oo1: 47
Oo2: 59 (lucky i didn't die here)
met1: 1:19
met2:1:38
met3: 2:36
2:06
w:2:12
DE: 51
Total: 22:24

This run was pretty shitty though. I think I'm going to shoot for under 22ish, around 21:45 or so but this is only the very beginning of practicing single segments so idk how far down i can go. Need to practice/optimize those 3 levels and we'll be good to go. Still took almost 2 minutes off the current run without even doing spectacularly (but i was using tails)(if my addition is correct that is?).

And thanks for mikes run, that gives me some times to run off of. Do have to factor in that your cp1 and az1 runs would have been better had you not tried to save real tie. Are you allowed to pause the game to use the bathroom and such during an ss?