Sonic Heroes With a Vengeance!

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illuminated: 2006-01-08 05:55:01 pm

2006-01-08 05:35:08 pm

http://files.filefront.com/Sonic_Heroszip/;4582818;;/fileinfo.html

Yeah the quality is kinda crummy and there's no sound(but for those of you that played this game,thats not neccsarily a bad thing).This is only a test run and I'll improve on it soon. I did not get this in one try either.And tricks I pulled off countless times before didn't go so well at many times.

Ijust wish I had a blooper real here and taped the part where I fell to my death...through solid ground!

Hitaro

2006-01-08 07:38:51 pm

Why did you use your Team Blast at those times? No, why did you use it at all if you're not even going for an A rank? The only thing it does is waste time. Heck; you could've probably left most of the ennemies you destroyed alive.

Learn to prioritize speed over everything if you're doing a pure speed run.

sonicspeedctr

2006-01-08 09:31:55 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

stopping the clock wouldnt do very much to help the video time.

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2006-01-08 09:56:22 pm

Im sorry to say this, but that run needs improving alot. It comes no way near the Sonic center record of 2:59:34.

I did not really bother with heros, but still managed 3:24:09, so there is not whole lot of advice I can give you.

However you dont seem to use Sonic enough. For example, at the start why do you use knux so much? He is there for smashing things and triangle dive, not for running from A to B.

After the first cart ride when you get to the large beach area is the upper route actually the faster one? I have not exactly tested it but the beach area at least feels to be faster for me.

For the last cannon use Tails not Sonic, but switch back as soon as you can.

Also agreed with Hitaro, in this level at least Sonics team blast is useless for speed, and there is no point in destroying most of the robots.

biff777

2006-01-08 11:51:56 pm

Hello

Sonic heros has to be one of my favourite game's ever. Keep up the good work!

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illuminated: 2006-01-09 05:33:06 am

2006-01-09 04:33:22 am

I said I was still working on it! Geez. And I know stopping the clock doesn't help time but it doesn't add any either. I didn't know about the last cannon with Tails,I'll try that. Yeah,I need to skip alot more enemies,and I know Sonics slide tackle can plow through enemies quick without actually destroying them.
But some enemies are good to bounce off of. Finally,the only reason I keep Knux at the beginning is because when I switch it slows the team down.Well, it seems that way to me.

And Hitaro, what are you stalking me? Thats three topics now...
edit: to Paused...Wheres the 2:59 video you're talking about? I couldn't find it.

sonicspeedctr

2006-01-09 11:36:11 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

that run seemed alright to me. i did see some things you could improve on. like after the second three loops and the jump, you can just jump right over the enemies instead of homing attacking 2 of them. its faster because your already going top speed the second you hit the ground.

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2006-01-09 03:28:30 pm

Unfortunatly there is no video of the 2.59 run, I was simply saying thats around the time you should be aiming for...

Though that time is very fast, and I have no idea on how to get even close.

Oh and Team blast can slow you down. You lose all your momentum after it.

illuminated

2006-01-09 05:23:31 pm

Well I practiced some more. I managed to get through the whole level without killing any enemies, used no team blast, and didn't use Knux very much. However I couldn't get it under 3 minuts,I don't think its possible.I'll try to get some vid up later.

illuminated

2006-01-09 08:13:35 pm

Ok, here's my improved run.3:28:76 I could probably beat this run by 1 or 2 seconds. To get an A rank would add about 25-30 seconds.
http://files.filefront.com/Sonic_Heroszip/;4587926;;/fileinfo.html

And here's an outtake of me dying by falling through solid ground...again.
http://files.filefront.com/SH_Outtakezip/;4587784;;/fileinfo.html

AngerFist

2006-01-09 08:49:08 pm

Angered Me, You have!

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Ok, here's my improved run.3:28:76 I could probably beat this run by 1 or 2 seconds. To get an A rank would add about 25-30 seconds.
http://files.filefront.com/Sonic_Heroszip/;4587926;;/fileinfo.html

And here's an outtake of me dying by falling through solid ground...again.
http://files.filefront.com/SH_Outtakezip/;4587784;;/fileinfo.html

MUCH better! I could clearly see the difference from your previous attempt. Keep it up!

illuminated

2006-01-09 09:00:09 pm

Why thank you. Grin

But keep in mind that in later levels destroying some enemies are a requirement for moving on. Espeacially those stupid giant robots with the hammers, something the team blast attack will come in handy for. Other than that I'll avoid using it most of the time.

Hitaro

2006-01-09 10:03:12 pm

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And Hitaro, what are you stalking me? Thats three topics now...

Three? I can only remember two...err.. I mean...

You're starting threads on games I'm interested in. If I'm interested in the game, then I'm look at the thread a might post. WHy would that be stalking?

And you need to choose wich game you'll run and stick with it if you actually want to have a record or just plain a run.

illuminated

2006-01-09 10:08:55 pm

I was kidding. And yeah I'm all over the place. I need to slow down. Sorry about that.

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2006-01-10 05:47:53 pm

Um...ok. The Power Plant level...
This level is HORRIBLE! To move on you need to destroy alot of enemies and then there's that stupid elevator portion which you have to do twice.TWICE!
The best I can get here is probably just under 7 minuts.Man, how can this happen? 7 minuts at a minimum,in a Sonic game? Its absurd.

mike89

2006-01-10 09:48:02 pm

SEGA Junkie

Yeah. That tends to be why a lot of people didn't like this game.

"How can this game take Sonic back to his roots if, if it were in one of his older games, you'd time over? Twice?"

Mystic Mansion Chaotix for the lose Sad

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illuminated: 2006-01-11 04:07:34 am

2006-01-10 11:40:57 pm

And all that with skipping enemies. Hell, the final level took me just under 12 minuts with an A rank. Without one probably somwhere around 9. I still wanna run the levels, I'll just try to keep it at 1 digit times. Like, under 10 minuts.(psh,I've seen entire games get beaten than less than that).

edit:*pats self on back*
Hey, I just found some tricks to pass some of the mandatory battles of the final stage. That will cut a large amount of time off. Yay me.

illuminated

2006-01-12 05:51:27 am

Got a new time for my Final Fortress run:6:30. That may not seem so great,but consider it from my original time,which was 11:38. This is all because I'm skipping A ranks. I found out that there are only two fights that are mandatory. Well 3 actually but I use team blast on the last one(trust me its worth it). I tried to skip one, but there's a stupid invisible wall an the part I was trying to pass. I nearly cut my time in half. Still got alot to do,but things are comming along nicely,I think.

illuminated

2006-01-18 07:57:59 pm

Have another video of a trial run. I knocke off 5 seconds from a previous try,and that was with a few mistakes.
http://files.filefront.com/GMetropoliszip/;4633095;;/fileinfo.html

For anyone still interested.

Mad_Andy

2006-01-18 09:47:13 pm

Nice vid. It reminded me that i didn't play heroes in a looooooong time Tongue

i don't really like that game Lips Sealed

illuminated

2006-01-18 09:57:04 pm

It was the long levels wasn't it? Yeah, I see your point.But I had fun with it. (well...the Sonic parts anyway...)

Mad_Andy

2006-01-18 10:06:00 pm

No, it wasn't the long levels, it was the stupid knuckles chaotix gameplay. Going speedy was fun but stopping to do silly puzzles ruined the game for me (and the chaotix team...when will sonic team learn to leave that damn alternative gameplay out of sonic games Tongue

).

illuminated

2006-01-18 10:10:45 pm

I agree with you 110 % on that one.

AngerFist

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AngerFist: 2006-01-18 11:38:34 pm

2006-01-18 10:59:27 pm

Angered Me, You have!

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Have another video of a trial run. I knocke off 5 seconds from a previous try,and that was with a few mistakes.
http://files.filefront.com/GMetropoliszip/;4633095;;/fileinfo.html

For anyone still interested.

Pay attention to Nate, this is the year of Sonic and everyone is interested! Just watched your clip and Im falling in love with this game more and more due to how you fly across some huge areas, running like hell through large fields etc Smiley

Besides from the tiny error at 1:56, I loved your vid. As always, keep it up Smiley

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I think if you would upload from rapidshare, it would get much faster to download your clips as they have much higher download speed.

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illuminated: 2006-01-18 11:22:22 pm

2006-01-18 11:21:18 pm

thanks for the info, I'll look into that. But not all levels are gonna be so great. The problem levels are gonna be the Casino and Bingo Highway. I've lowered my times greatly in them though. The Robot Storm and Carnival are probably gonna suck timewise, as well as the final boss. And,sadly, Power plant and Egg Fleet are not a speedrunners friend. Thogh I was amazed at how I not only lowered my time on Frog Forest, but still got an A rank without even trying.

btw: what was the error...I forgot. :-[