Just another thought: Can you use equip/use your "powers" (like Voice of the Emperor for an Imperial) if your hands are bound? Might be an easier way to cause damage if you can find a guard that can arrest you. If you can't, chances are that you can't use dragon shouts either even if you can somehow get them.
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I am currently in the process of optimizing Caelint's route for a single-segment run. Here are some of my observations and ideas:
Route
- The route in the SS run will most likely take 10 - 20 longer than a segmented run.
- Taking paths will be faster as jumping is not needed and I will be able to use the torch-running glitch effectively (see below).
- After escaping Helgen, I will run to Embershard Mine and get a torch or two so I can use the torch-running glich.
- Most of the route will be the same as the current segmented run.
Torch-running
I'm sure we have talked about this in the past, but torch-running is a glitch in the game where you can aquire unlimited sprint by tapping the sprint button whilst you have a sword and a torch equipped (sword must be sheathed). This is helpful mostly on console as load times for waiting are longer.
Gold
The vendor glitch is not really needed, you can get enough gold for travelling and such by selling weapons you pick up in Helgen Keep. You can then get an extra 50 - 90 gold in Esbern's room and another 50 or so at the entrance to Sky Haven Temple.
Possible Skips
I have found a way to get into Sky Haven Temple early, though Delphine and Esbern don't spawn in with you. I was wondering, could this exploit be used further along the story, skipping the whole first half of the storyline?
I will add more ideas when I can think of them.
Route
- The route in the SS run will most likely take 10 - 20 longer than a segmented run.
- Taking paths will be faster as jumping is not needed and I will be able to use the torch-running glitch effectively (see below).
- After escaping Helgen, I will run to Embershard Mine and get a torch or two so I can use the torch-running glich.
- Most of the route will be the same as the current segmented run.
Torch-running
I'm sure we have talked about this in the past, but torch-running is a glitch in the game where you can aquire unlimited sprint by tapping the sprint button whilst you have a sword and a torch equipped (sword must be sheathed). This is helpful mostly on console as load times for waiting are longer.
Gold
The vendor glitch is not really needed, you can get enough gold for travelling and such by selling weapons you pick up in Helgen Keep. You can then get an extra 50 - 90 gold in Esbern's room and another 50 or so at the entrance to Sky Haven Temple.
Possible Skips
I have found a way to get into Sky Haven Temple early, though Delphine and Esbern don't spawn in with you. I was wondering, could this exploit be used further along the story, skipping the whole first half of the storyline?
I will add more ideas when I can think of them.
WOW.
Ilseroth is doing some really good SS PC runs at the moment, almost beating the current segmented time. You should check him out when he's online.
http://www.twitch.tv/ilseroth/
Current SS record is now 1:18:08 - here is what has come up:
- Platters are said to be better than bowls (I would contest this, but hey, i'm on console :P).
- You don't have to talk to Delphine after recovering the docs from the embassy.
-High Elf may not be the best race to use, Khajiit may be better.
- Peace council is annoying.
- I'm sure there are a few small things I have missed.
- Alduin may have a pattern in the last battle.
As for current attempts, we could get sub-1:15 easy, dare I even say sub-1:12 with optimization and some luck?
http://www.twitch.tv/ilseroth/
Current SS record is now 1:18:08 - here is what has come up:
- Platters are said to be better than bowls (I would contest this, but hey, i'm on console :P).
- You don't have to talk to Delphine after recovering the docs from the embassy.
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- Peace council is annoying.
- I'm sure there are a few small things I have missed.
- Alduin may have a pattern in the last battle.
As for current attempts, we could get sub-1:15 easy, dare I even say sub-1:12 with optimization and some luck?
Khajiit do a base of +15 damage unarmed, but compare how long is spent in battles to how long is spent running. Maximum run speed is still crucial I think, but hey, I could be wrong. I just don't think you can give up even a .08 increase in speed in order to save time in like 5 total minutes of battles...
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Quote from FlamingMage:
Khajiit do a base of +15 damage unarmed, but compare how long is spent in battles to how long is spent running. Maximum run speed is still crucial I think, but hey, I could be wrong. I just don't think you can give up even a .08 increase in speed in order to save time in like 5 total minutes of battles...
Not to mention the fact that in the last battle you have people doing most of the work for you. The new SS run was done with a Khajiit so I don't know how much faster it would be.
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Also, on a passing note, the title of this post made me chuckle: http://zoknowsgaming.com/2011/10/16/elder-scrolls-skyrim-beaten-2-hours-game/
I am going to finally try and do a few full console runs tonight, might stream them if I can get my dazzle to work!
Edit: Ilseroth just got 1:14:53 single-segment! Link coming...
I am going to finally try and do a few full console runs tonight, might stream them if I can get my dazzle to work!
Edit: Ilseroth just got 1:14:53 single-segment! Link coming...
Here's that link, I think - http://www.twitch.tv/ilseroth/b/310825976
Something worth noting on Khajit - that's +25 damage unarmed, not +15. He picks up the Gloves of the Pugilist in Riften, +10 unarmed. He just owns Tsun. I think that +25 makes a huge difference at level 1.
Something worth noting on Khajit - that's +25 damage unarmed, not +15. He picks up the Gloves of the Pugilist in Riften, +10 unarmed. He just owns Tsun. I think that +25 makes a huge difference at level 1.
Quote from Chrno:
Ilseroth is doing some really good SS PC runs at the moment, almost beating the current segmented time.
Just to clarify, his timer starts after the intro, and my 1:16:24 is in game time which includes it. So if you want to compare them you need to subtract 7:56 from my time. With Ilseroth's timing my run is 1:08:28. Nevertheless 1:14:53 is a great achievement in SS, and by no means I am trying to make it look bad or anything. What I'm trying to say is that we should use the same timing method, and the in game timer seems more convenient for now, as we can't avoid including the loading times anyway without manually timing everything, which would be a pain, and should only be done on a submit candidate.
Hey Caelint, awesome run, got a question about it though. Why did you use a mace for part of it instead of using Dragonbane all the time?
Also a general question to anyone: do weapons slow you down when equipped and sheathed? Torch-running evidently requires a sheathed one-handed weapon and I just want to get my facts straight.
Also a general question to anyone: do weapons slow you down when equipped and sheathed? Torch-running evidently requires a sheathed one-handed weapon and I just want to get my facts straight.
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Torch-running evidently requires a sheathed one-handed weapon
Actually, this is a misconception. You don't actually need any weapons to activate the torch-running glitch. All you need to do is make sure your fists are down (sheathed) and then just tap run once. You can also toggle the torch off either using a hotkey on PC or the favorites menu on console to avoid burning out the torch.
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I'm playing around with some OOB stuff - I'm able to get outside the walls of Riften and explore a mainly unrendered Skyrim world. Is Sovngarde actually on the map (even outside of the world boundries) or is it completly a whole other load because I might be able to trigger it to load if the trigger accesable using an OOB glitch.
I'm 99% sure that it is a completely different map. I went OOB in whiterun a few months ago, didn't find anything, and I was looking for hours. I even tried using noclip. If I remember correctly L0rdy tried it backwards, he was trying to find Skyrim from Sovngarde (more logical if you think about it) with noclip, and found nothing, which is the main evidence that they exist on different worlds. You can never be absolutely sure about that tho, so it doesn't hurt if you try.
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Yeah, seems only right really. Oh well, I'm looking into ways to skip/speed up the peace council but so far to no avail. The council is triggered when you sit in the seat so the most logical think to do would be to make the game think you are sitting down when you are in fact not, a little bit like the doormounting glitch where the game think you are still mounted on the hourse. From there you would be able to bump into the talkers around the table and speed up the whole process.
Nice find, these neat little tricks make segmented runs much more interesting. Although as it's that early in the run it's good for ss runs too.
I thought about using Alduin that way, just not exactly here. What I found is that you can actually ride Alduin for a few seconds when he flies away, thus landing you outside Helgen. I never managed to stay on Alduin long enough to stay inside Helgen closer to Helgen keep. It would've been awesome tho
I'm glad you found something similar.
I thought about using Alduin that way, just not exactly here. What I found is that you can actually ride Alduin for a few seconds when he flies away, thus landing you outside Helgen. I never managed to stay on Alduin long enough to stay inside Helgen closer to Helgen keep. It would've been awesome tho