Silent Bomber (PS1)

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RoboSparkle: 2013-10-18 06:05:52 am

2013-10-18 06:02:47 am

Magical. Flying. Bathtub

I love this game and did attempt to route it myself for a while. It features wall jumping, air dashes and explosions so was made for speedrunning! I agree that 100% is probably not viable if you defined that as "all S Rank" because some levels are impossible to get S rank in on a first playthrough (plus ranks are based on score which basically means "not the fastest way", especially on missions like the one where you have to explode up the residential sector Tongue

). If you defined 100% as "all e-chips and data chips" than that would be different.

My record is 1:10:24 (PAL) but that involved a game crash after mission 11, I'm convinced it can get under an hour (I'm pretty sure that I've had runs on sub-hour pace before dying but can't be certain). I look forward to seeing your progress on this, plus whether there are any major glitches (so far all I've found is skipping some of the light gates, mainly on the first level iirc)

Also the final boss is one of my favourite video game villans of all time, being the one to realise that if you are massively overpowering Giant robots on a constant basis then the only thing that can beat you is... another you but with extra powers Smiley

I love this game and did attempt to route it myself for a while.  It features wall jumping, air dashes and explosions so was made for speedrunning!  I agree that 100% is probably not viable if you defined that as "all S Rank" because some levels are impossible to get S rank in on a first playthrough (plus ranks are based on score which basically means "not the fastest way", especially on missions like the one where you have to explode up the residential sector :P ).  If you defined 100% as "all e-chips and data chips" than that would be different.

My record is 1:10:24 (PAL) but that involved a game crash after mission 11, I'm convinced it can get under an hour (I'm pretty sure that I've had runs on sub-hour pace before dying but can't be certain).  I look forward to seeing your progress on this, plus whether there are any major glitches (so far all I've found is skipping some of the light gates, mainly on the first level iirc)

Also the final boss is one of my favourite video game villans of all time, being the one to realise that if you are massively overpowering Giant robots on a constant basis then the only thing that can beat you is... another you but with extra powers :)

2013-10-18 06:43:00 am

Yeah I only mentioned 100%, to think about it, but yeah it would be really impossible to get all S on first playthrough, after beating the game and then getting all S, that's a diffrent story. But I think it wouldn't take so much time, if you have good route, and game wouldn't troll you with bad rng.

My best time is similar, and I also playing on PAL while I was routing and checking stuff (what to pick up and where) but yes, to get under 1 hour is no problem.

And about last boss, I also consider him as a one of the best end game boss. Music is great, and background showing Dante moving toward your planet, is awesome.
I like the idea of 2 stage boss, while in first you have to "Play chess" and then fight with other soldier who is using the same weapon as you, but with extra power, I really like that fight (But still I'm dying on him very often). I also like it because its really hard/tricky to be good at it.

2013-10-18 11:13:34 am

Magical. Flying. Bathtub

Yeah doing damage to him quickly means getting VERY good at button mashing and avoiding damage. Avoiding damage from him is pretty simple when you get into a good rhythm. I'm not sure there is much RNG to speak off other than Benoit's attack pattern (the other bosses have that but they are so quick to dispatch it doesn't matter).

What do you do in terms of E-unit upgrade paths? I think the fastest method is to ignore shield and balance range and bombs but that's obviously risky. There are a few levels where shield would be more useful if you dont have to attack (like the cables or prison break) but mostly I think we want to avoid going out of our way for echips. The first level is an exception but only because of how much quicker the boss is dispached when you have 3 bombs.

2013-10-18 01:46:23 pm

Yeah, so far I picked up almost everything. Getting bombs addons help with few bosses and in few situation, so I'm still trying some new strategies, like at second boss (that big cannon) after disabling him with elec, I'm setting 4 napalm, and then kill him off. I still need to time thing like this so I will know if it's faster this way.

About E-chips, they are usually on the way, so I'm picking all of them. Thanks to that at the last battle I'm have 6 bomb 10 meter range, and 40% shield (all on 4 lvl) It's important to have good range here, if not Benoit is going to outrange you and kill you. But earlier, I only invest in bombs and range. There is one risk fight with my strategy. When you fight Big Blue Boss, his "saw" can hit you for almost 40% of health when you don't have shield, and end your run pretty fast.
I think there are few places where I go little of the way to get E-chip, but its not big deal. Taking E-chips the way I'm taking now, I have 0 unused E-chip at the end of the game, so I think its pretty good routed (which is more lucky then routing hehehe)

Some of the bosses have RNG, but if you stun them with elec, then usually everything is done, expect when you can't stun them like that one big blue boss after you set free Annri. And Benoit Chess stage, is more about not getting hit, so there is no RNG. On second stage, like you said, if you get the rythm, you can probably kill him with 0 damage done to you, but sometimes he kills you right away.

Also I just ended another practice, and after saving I got 53 min, so yeah, getting under 1 hour with only one dead hehe.

Yeah, so far I picked up almost everything. Getting bombs addons help with few bosses and in few situation, so I'm still trying some new strategies, like at second boss (that big cannon) after disabling him with elec, I'm setting 4 napalm, and then kill him off. I still need to time thing like this so I will know if it's faster this way.

About E-chips, they are usually on the way, so I'm picking all of them. Thanks to that at the last battle I'm have 6 bomb 10 meter range, and 40% shield (all on 4 lvl) It's important to have good range here, if not Benoit is going to outrange you and kill you. But earlier, I only invest in bombs and range. There is one risk fight with my strategy. When you fight Big Blue Boss, his "saw" can hit you for almost 40% of health when you don't have shield, and end your run pretty fast.
I think there are few places where I go little of the way to get E-chip, but its not big deal. Taking E-chips the way I'm taking now, I have 0 unused E-chip at the end of the game, so I think its pretty good routed (which is more lucky then routing hehehe)

Some of the bosses have RNG, but if you stun them with elec, then usually everything is done, expect when you can't stun them like that one big blue boss after you set free Annri. And Benoit Chess stage, is more about not getting hit, so there is no RNG. On second stage, like you said, if you get the rythm, you can probably kill him with 0 damage done to you, but sometimes he kills you right away.

Also I just ended another practice, and after saving I got 53 min, so yeah, getting under 1 hour with only one dead hehe.

2013-10-18 02:22:34 pm

Heavy Metal Powered

I played the demo of this on one of those demo discs. I'd love to see a speedrun of this! Good luck with the project!

2013-10-19 02:05:48 am

Thanks, currently, I'm making notes about the stages, so it will be easy for me to remember stuff, and know where to go.
I have notes for 1-6 stages, now I'm taking notes for 7 and onward stages, to the last battle. Some of mission are easy like saving Annri from jail, but some of the mission are on larger map, so taking notes will help me remembering where is what.

2013-10-19 02:11:48 am

Magical. Flying. Bathtub

A little tip on Big Blue if you didn't already know is that you can damage him with the paralysis liquid. It'll be the last level where it's really useful too. A 6-bomb will take off something like 1/5 of his health if he's coming from underneath you, so would be useful to finish him off.

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Senvy: 2013-10-20 11:50:18 am

2013-10-20 11:50:01 am

Ok, I just finished the run.
The run was far from calling it good or decent, but it was first after many practices, so I'm just happy I finished it without rage quiting.

The time I've achieved is 1:07:07, and in game time is 58:14 I think.

I made many many mistakes, I died twice once on that Big Blue Guy, but that was on the beginning so I didn't lose so much time, and second time I died on last boss, in very very stupid way. And also had some stupid problems with Wsplit, so at the end, it says I finished the run around 49: min mark, but later I fixed it.
I will probably do another run tomorrow, and more then one. I think this one will be my primary game to speedrun for some time (because its faster, then 3h Beyond Good & Evil run), so be ready for better time soon.

I highlighted the run, you can watch it here : http://twitch.tv/senvy/c/3114412

About that tip Robo, I know that you can damage him in other way, but as far I tried and know, the other way doesn't inflict so much damage as normal way, but still in my run, I finished him with the way you sugested.

Ok, I just finished the run. 
The run was far from calling it good or decent, but it was first after many practices, so I'm just happy I finished it without rage quiting.

The time I've achieved is 1:07:07, and in game time is 58:14 I think.

I made many many mistakes, I died twice once on that Big Blue Guy, but that was on the beginning so I didn't lose so much time, and second time I died on last boss, in very very stupid way. And also had some stupid problems with Wsplit, so at the end, it says I finished the run around 49: min mark, but later I fixed it.
I will probably do another run tomorrow, and more then one. I think this one will be my primary game to speedrun for some time (because its faster, then 3h Beyond Good & Evil run), so be ready for better time soon.

I highlighted the run, you can watch it here : [url]http://twitch.tv/senvy/c/3114412[/url]

About that tip Robo, I know that you can damage him in other way, but as far I tried and know, the other way doesn't inflict so much damage as normal way, but still in my run, I finished him with the way you sugested.

2013-10-20 03:09:05 pm

Heavy Metal Powered

Great attempt, I can't really comment on anything else. Keep it up!

2013-10-20 04:48:43 pm

Magical. Flying. Bathtub

Awesome, can't wait to watch the full thing! As far as Big Blue is concerned, you can put bombs on him during transistions and his shields don't come up until he yo-yos. Considering you don't have anything else to do you might as well do that to hopefully reduce the cycles, but it doesn't remove much health. Paralysis liquid is VERY damaging to him though.

I wanted to make some notes to help out in the run, sorry if these sound harsh but it really looks good so far! It's late now but I'll add to this as I think of things to help out.

Mission 1: I'm not sure the gravity liquid is worth it considering the time cost to get it. Also every AA gun takes one napalm to destroy, so adding another bomb is probably wasting time. Also at the end there's no point in collecting the extra e-chips until you have blown up the last AA gun because Anri talks at you for so long that you can easily get the rest of the nearby collectables while that's happening.

2013-10-21 11:23:21 am

Thanks guys for good words. I will keep improving my time. Robo, I know there is many thinks that need to be improve, little or bigger ones, and will work on them. I kept in mind your tips for first mission, and I did 2 runs today.
I wanted to do 3 runs today, or get my time under 1 hour, and I get new pbs. On first one, I died 3 times. Once on Big Yellow guy (its really easy boss, I dunno why I died there) once on Big Blue, and once on Final Boss, but what is funny, I beat my best time by 9 sec (hahahahah) and my ingame time by 15 sec.
Then on second try, I didn't die at all, and I beat my old time by 10 min. For now my best time is around 56 min ingame is around 48 min, and I'm happy with them.
I changed the order of getting E-chip, and in the end I was 1 E-chip short, so I lost some second because I had to back and get the last one (need to work on them once again).

Sorry I didn't answered earlier, but I get from school rather late, so I just wanted to do run, and then replay to you guys.

New best time is Highlithed here: http://twitch.tv/senvy/c/3119429
First run end on 1:15:00 replay time, and start the second one.

Thanks guys for good words. I will keep improving my time. Robo, I know there is many thinks that need to be improve, little or bigger ones, and will work on them. I kept in mind your tips for first mission, and I did 2 runs today.
I wanted to do 3 runs today, or get my time under 1 hour, and I get new pbs. On first one, I died 3 times. Once on Big Yellow guy (its really easy boss, I dunno why I died there) once on Big Blue, and once on Final Boss, but what is funny, I beat my best time by 9 sec (hahahahah) and my ingame time by 15 sec.
Then on second try, I didn't die at all, and I beat my old time by 10 min. For now my best time is around 56 min ingame is around 48 min, and I'm happy with them.
I changed the order of getting E-chip, and in the end I was 1 E-chip short, so I lost some second because I had to back and get the last one (need to work on them once again).

Sorry I didn't answered earlier, but I get from school rather late, so I just wanted to do run, and then replay to you guys.

New best time is Highlithed here:  [url]http://twitch.tv/senvy/c/3119429[/url]
First run end on 1:15:00 replay time, and start the second one.

2013-10-21 04:55:32 pm

Heavy Metal Powered

Those are quite the improvements, very nice progress! Wish I could explain how that chess board fight slightly sequence broke.

2013-10-22 11:45:36 am

Yeah it could maybe save some time, but later, I think game give me additional enemy to kill, so its probably was 0 time saved, maybe even some time lost. Still, this happend quite often with others figures but they usually just pop up and disapear, until they are triggered again.

I did some runs today, but each of them end up reseting. I really don't want to reset because I don't feel like I'm good enough to reset everytime I did little mistake, I will reset only when really bad time.

Also tomorrow, I have more free time, so I will try and do more routing. I'm thinking of using more Paralysis liquid on Bosses, but for that I need to know exactly, on what mission, what liquid i can get, so I won't end up short on liquid. I usually end up with additional liquid, so using them more wisely probably will save me time on bosses.
So tomorrow more routing, and maybe my run will improve to the thursday.

burningsteel

2013-10-22 08:25:12 pm

Soulless Killing Machine

Senvy, would you like to cooperate on this game? I want to do a Segmented Run of this game, and try to get the best possible in-game time. SO if you want to do the Single Segment I have no qualms about working with you. I was using the Japanese version thinking it would be better or something, but they seem to be the exact same damn thing except for a couple things.

1) J version You HAVE to go through the stupid tutorial.
2) The extra screen that is displayed that allows you to choose between the main game or to start with the tutorial.
3) The US version has an extra screen in the way when you try to get to the E-Chip Allocation screen.
4) And the voice actors were not as annoying. Dammnit listening to the English voice actors is slightly soul destroying..."JOOOOHHHN"!
5) J version is in Japanese!! Really!

Well other than those I do not see any differences. Seems like the damn text occupies the same number of screens, and occupies about the same amount of time as well. In Skyward Sword apparently the time difference becomes extreme, but that is not the case here.

*First Playthrough time (in game time)– 49:45
*Second Playthrough – (in game time) 43:54 (give or take a couple seconds not sure since I just wanted to see if I could get under 45m)

*These are with the Jap version, so minus the tutorial you are looking at a shy over 40 minutes. Since I think the tut lasts about 1-2 minutes.

Also, it was funny seeing you do the same route I was on the first level. Thumbs Up! But make more use of the air dash, it is fastest movement.

Tomorrow I will finish watching your twitch upload.

Senvy, would you like to cooperate on this game?  I want to do a Segmented Run of this game, and try to get the best possible in-game time.  SO if you want to do the Single Segment I have no qualms about working with you.   I was using the Japanese version thinking it would be better or something, but they seem to be the exact same damn thing except for a couple things.

1) J version You HAVE to go through the stupid tutorial.
2) The extra screen that is displayed that allows you to choose between the main game or to start with the tutorial.
3) The US version has an extra screen in the way when you try to get to the E-Chip Allocation screen.
4) And the voice actors were not as annoying. Dammnit listening to the English voice actors is slightly soul destroying..."JOOOOHHHN"!
5) J version is in Japanese!! Really!

Well other than those I do not see any differences.  Seems like the damn text occupies the same number of screens, and occupies about the same amount of time as well.  In Skyward Sword apparently the time difference becomes extreme, but that is not the case here.

*First Playthrough time (in game time)– 49:45
*Second Playthrough – (in game time) 43:54 (give or take a couple seconds not sure since I just wanted to see if I could get under 45m)

*These are with the Jap version, so minus the tutorial you are looking at a shy over 40 minutes.  Since I think the tut lasts about 1-2 minutes.

Also, it was funny seeing you do the same route I was on the first level. Thumbs Up!  But make more use of the air dash, it is fastest movement.

Tomorrow I will finish watching your twitch upload.

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Senvy: 2013-10-22 11:46:02 pm

2013-10-22 11:45:22 pm

Yeah, I will be more than happy to help each other. I know this game is made to do single segment, thanks to seeing the time after each saves. I was thinking of doing one in future, after I get really good time with any%.

I know air dash is the fastest movement, but it also have about 0.5 - 1 sec dash on the ground, when you can't control Jutah, so doing air dash every time can be slower, if you can't do this right (well, I can't for now).
I watched your short video, thanks to that I started considering using more liquids on the bosses. Damn you killed first one in flash. Well it's good that we are using the same route for first mission, it's mean that each of us find the shortest way to finish the mission, and if someone else use it also, it's really means that is the fastest way.

And yeah, English voice actors, are really bad. About text long being the same, I was thinking if there is a way to speed up text. Sometimes you can pause while you are hearing text, and after you unpause the voice that read the text is gone, so maybe there is a way to speed this text up. I will test it now, and maybe tomorrow, I will get another good run. And just to be sure, I'm using PAL version of the game.

Yeah, I will be more than happy to help each other. I know this game is made to do single segment, thanks to seeing the time after each saves. I was thinking of doing one in future, after I get really good time with any%.

I know air dash is the fastest movement, but it also have about 0.5 - 1 sec dash on the ground, when you can't control Jutah, so doing air dash every time can be slower, if you can't do this right (well, I can't for now).
I watched your short video, thanks to that I started considering using more liquids on the bosses. Damn you killed first one in flash. Well it's good that we are using the same route for first mission, it's mean that each of us find the shortest way to finish the mission, and if someone else use it also, it's really means that is the fastest way.

And yeah, English voice actors, are really bad. About text long being the same, I was thinking if there is a way to speed up text. Sometimes you can pause while you are hearing text, and after you unpause the voice that read the text is gone, so maybe there is a way to speed this text up. I will test it now, and maybe tomorrow, I will get another good run. And just to be sure, I'm using PAL version of the game.

burningsteel

2013-10-23 12:51:54 pm

I am using the US version of the game. Would they allow us to have two different Segmented/ Single Segment just for regional differences?

Well anyway the reason why I killed the boss so quickly is because the Paralysis Bomb is completely out of whack. I do not know if it is a glitch, but using STACKED PBs is the fastest way to kill machine type enemies. Period. Ex: You can kill suspectible bosses in about 10 seconds.

With that our times will be much closer :). Have fun. Oh, and I have not been able to find a way to skip some text either, AKA Benoit annoys the hell out of me. If you do that would be awesome. I would lose less sanity points.

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Senvy: 2013-10-24 01:21:33 pm

2013-10-24 09:28:06 am

Well, routing what I can get where, took me little more time, because I also tried to find new strategies, and I think I did. So for now I got almost everything for mission 1 - 9, now I need to pass 10-13 and then do another run, but can't say when it will be. I have some stuff to do tomorrow, so if I only had some free time, I will try and finish routing today/tomorrow, and try to do a run on weekend.

Skipping text, is impossible (at least the way I wanted to do). Pausing when you hear audio, does nothing. After you unpause the game you have to wait for text to be "read" and then show up new text with new audio. So instead saving time, you lose it because you open the menu.

I dunno about paralysis liquid being bugged. It may be to OP but not bugged. All of the liquid gain more power with more stocks, it just paralysis too powerfull on machine enemy.

About having two different runs, I think it's good as long as we speedrun two diffrent things (me any%, you segmented), the problem would occur when one of us wanted to do different run. Then it would end up on checking which version is faster to become superior. So then I think the fastest one would still be your NTSC version. Maybe you have one adittional cutscene, but in the end, it probably would be faster then my PAL version.
But that's the problem only when we wanted to submitted the run to SDA, and still I'm using emulator, so my runs are not 100% legit (in terms of submiting)
OR they would let us heheh, I'm not sure, can't decide this one.

In the end, after I done routing things, I can share my notes, and strategies here, if you want.

EDIT: Ok, I've done routing. So tomorrow some testing, and probably on weekend I will do runs with new strats.

Well, routing what I can get where, took me little more time, because I also tried to find new strategies, and I think I did. So for now I got almost everything for mission 1 - 9, now I need to pass 10-13 and then do another run, but can't say when it will be. I have some stuff to do tomorrow, so if I only had some free time, I will try and finish routing today/tomorrow, and try to do a run on weekend.

Skipping text, is impossible (at least the way I wanted to do). Pausing when you hear audio, does nothing. After you unpause the game you have to wait for text to be "read" and then show up new text with new audio. So instead saving time, you lose it because you open the menu.

I dunno about paralysis liquid being bugged. It may be to OP but not bugged. All of the liquid gain more power with more stocks, it just paralysis too powerfull on machine enemy.

About having two different runs, I think it's good as long as we speedrun two diffrent things (me any%, you segmented), the problem would occur when one of us wanted to do different run. Then it would end up on checking which version is faster to become superior. So then I think the fastest one would still be your NTSC version. Maybe you have one adittional cutscene, but in the end, it probably would be faster then my PAL version.
But that's the problem only when we wanted to submitted the run to SDA, and still I'm using emulator, so my runs are not 100% legit (in terms of submiting)
OR they would let us heheh, I'm not sure, can't decide this one.

In the end, after I done routing things, I can share my notes, and strategies here, if you want.

EDIT: Ok, I've done routing. So tomorrow some testing, and probably on weekend I will do runs with new strats.

2013-10-27 02:35:14 pm

Ok, so I did some testing yesterday, and 2 runs today. On one of them I got new PB, but only ingame time, now its 46:05. The reason why its only ingame time, is because I was testing also with OBS, and I changed the max fps from 30 to 60, and that made my emulator to slow down on some parts. After I figured out, what was a problem, I fixed it I did another try, and I was 1:30 ahead, but well in the end I died.

So the new strats are faster/better and I still can gain more time. Under 55 is possible, but I dunno about sub 50 min.

Didn't highlighted anything now, because well, I don't think that there was anything good to show.
I hope tomorrow I will have more luck.

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2013-10-28 12:33:28 pm

Sorry for again writing under my own post in so short time . . .

Yesterday I did few runs, and neither of them finished with good time, but today I at last had more time to do run, and I beat my old PB by around 4-5. Now the time is 52:53 and the ingame timwer is 44:44. It was worth to spend this few days to make another strategy.

I'm quite happy with the runs I had today. After I made new time (54:47 or around) I though that it will be hard to beat my time, but then I improve it by next 2 min. I was quite lucky, I got good pattern in few places, but still I can save more time in few of them.
There is still much place to improve the run, so I will keep trying and improving my time.

You can watch my new PB here : http://twitch.tv/senvy/c/3155573
The second run start at 1:12:20 replay time

EDIT:

Hey, I won't do another post under my own for obvious reasons.

With help from RoboSparkle I was able to improve my time. He gave me a tips about chess fight, thanks to that I was able to save around 3-5 min from final time.
So now my best time is 47:09 , and ingame timer is 39:12.
Warepire - you was right just like Robo. There was a way to sequence brake a chess fight, but to tell the truth, there isn't any sequence brake at all ( lol ) I just kill figures faster, thats all (thanks to Robo).

I will try to improve my time even more, so for now my goal is sub 47. It shouldn't be hard to get it if I don't do any stupid mistakes, and the game have to give me good boss fight.

You can watch run here http://twitch.tv/senvy/c/3180924

EDIT 2 :

Hey again.
Now that I have capture card, I was trying to get close to my best/wr time I had with emulator, and after many tries I did it.
So far my best time on ePSXe was 47:09, but today on PS2 I get 47:20
It took me a while to get that time, there is still place to improve my time, so I won't give up, and I will try to get sub 47 or maybe even less.

You can watch run here http://twitch.tv/senvy/c/3221296

Sorry for again writing under my own post in so short time . . .

Yesterday I did few runs, and neither of them finished with good time, but today I at last had more time to do run, and I beat my old PB by around 4-5. Now the time is 52:53 and the ingame timwer is 44:44. It was worth to spend this few days to make another strategy.

I'm quite happy with the runs I had today. After I made new time (54:47 or around) I though that it will be hard to beat my time, but then I improve it by next 2 min. I was quite lucky, I got good pattern in few places, but still I can save more time in few of them.
There is still much place to improve the run, so I will keep trying and improving my time.

You can watch my new PB here : [url]http://twitch.tv/senvy/c/3155573[/url]
The second run start at 1:12:20 replay time

EDIT:

Hey, I won't do another post under my own for obvious reasons.

With help from RoboSparkle I was able to improve my time. He gave me a tips about chess fight, thanks to that I was able to save around 3-5 min from final time.
So now my best time is 47:09 , and ingame timer is 39:12.
Warepire -  you was right just like Robo. There was a way to sequence brake a chess fight, but to tell the truth, there isn't any sequence brake at all ( lol ) I just kill figures faster, thats all (thanks to Robo).

I will try to improve my time even more, so for now my goal is sub 47. It shouldn't be hard to get it if I don't do any stupid mistakes, and the game have to give me good boss fight.

You can watch run here [url]http://twitch.tv/senvy/c/3180924[/url]

EDIT 2 :

Hey again.
Now that I have capture card, I was trying to get close to my best/wr time I had with emulator, and after many tries I did it.
So far my best time on ePSXe was 47:09, but today on PS2 I get 47:20
It took me a while to get that time, there is still place to improve my time, so I won't give up, and I will try to get sub 47 or maybe even less.

You can watch run here [url]http://twitch.tv/senvy/c/3221296[/url]

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Warepire: 2013-11-20 06:26:23 am

2013-11-20 06:24:41 am

Heavy Metal Powered

Forgot about this for a while, it's nice to see a run done on the real console compared to emulators, some of the time difference can be due to inaccuracy of emulation by ePSXe. But it's also really unfortunate how the final mission really dumped on you. Really impressive how much shorter you managed to get the chess segment, it can drag on for minutes...
Are you planning to submit to SDA when you are satisfied?

2013-11-20 10:21:53 pm

Yeah I'm thinking, I even get better time, and I did record it with VirtualDub, but have some sounds issue (dunno if talk about this here, or make proper topic) in short, when I watched .avi, some of the sounds effect was suppressed but other sounds. For twitch and OBS .mp4 video, both video and sounds are fine, its something wrong with audio recording and, I need to figure out.

About the time I get, I finally managed to get time around 47 min. I hit split little late, so time is 47:02 (should be 47:01 something but who cares)
It was a good run, Mission 8 went very well, but then in Mission 11, I wasn't able to kill boss fast enough because once I only managed to put 3 bomb and later only 5 so I lost almost all time there. Good that last part of the game went smoothly.

Like I said Warepire, thanks to RoboSparkle who told me how to fight them, I was able to save about 2 min on Chess fight, and on Boss fight, he suggested to look for the real Benoit by looking at the flash when he create 2 clones so sometimes I can see it, sometimes not.
Thanks to his advice I was able to get better time. If I was to figure this out myself, it would probably took me some time.

You can watch new 47:02 here http://www.twitch.tv/senvy/c/3276028

Yeah I'm thinking, I even get better time, and I did record it with VirtualDub, but have some sounds issue (dunno if talk about this here, or make proper topic) in short, when I watched .avi, some of the sounds effect was suppressed but other sounds. For twitch and OBS .mp4 video, both video and sounds are fine, its something wrong with audio recording and, I need to figure out.

About the time I get, I finally managed to get time around 47 min. I hit split little late, so time is 47:02 (should be 47:01 something but who cares)
It was a good run, Mission 8 went very well, but then in Mission 11, I wasn't able to kill boss fast enough because once I only managed to put 3 bomb and later only 5 so I lost almost all time there. Good that last part of the game went smoothly.

Like I said Warepire, thanks to RoboSparkle who told me how to fight them, I was able to save about 2 min on Chess fight, and on Boss fight, he suggested to look for the real Benoit by looking at the flash when he create 2 clones so sometimes I can see it, sometimes not.
Thanks to his advice I was able to get better time. If I was to figure this out myself, it would probably took me some time.

You can watch new 47:02 here [url]http://www.twitch.tv/senvy/c/3276028[/url]

2013-11-21 05:07:22 am

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Quote from Senvy:

Like I said Warepire, thanks to RoboSparkle who told me how to fight them, I was able to save about 2 min on Chess fight, and on Boss fight, he suggested to look for the real Benoit by looking at the flash when he create 2 clones so sometimes I can see it, sometimes not.
Thanks to his advice I was able to get better time. If I was to figure this out myself, it would probably took me some time.

I should learn to read... Will watch the highlight later.

2013-11-29 03:20:00 am

Hey once again guys. Some time ago, I get new pb which was 47:01 but the run was so stupid that I didn't wanted to mention it (save 1 sec) but there was one thing that was worth remembering in that run. I had Almost perfect fight with Benoit, that let me save around 40 sec. After that I know it will be hard to get another perfect fight with him, so I tried some new strategy for him, and now I have new PB.

Yesterday I finally get under 47 min, to be more precisly, I even get under 46 min haha

My new pb is 45:58 min.

What I was trying to figures out was why Benoit sometimes instead of sending his giant hologram, he do triangle attack, and why sometimes he doesn't dissappear after I damage him.
I somehow figured it out, in short sometimes when I'm close to him, he doesn't dissappear after taking damage, or when he dissappear and I'm facing the direction he was, he sometimes do triangle attack instead of creating giant hologram.
Also I started using paralysis liquid on him. 6 is enough to stagger him long enough so I can place 8 bombs, run away and detonate it.
There are a lot of "sometimes" because everytime there is something different from last time, so I still can't find strategy that would work everytime, but I'm happy with strategy that I have now.

I still can save a couple of seconds here and there, it was really solid run, but I'm sure I can beat it.

Also I get little carried away so sorry for any "stupid" comments that I could say during my run.
You can watch my run here http://www.twitch.tv/senvy/c/3315730

Hey once again guys. Some time ago, I get new pb which was 47:01 but the run was so stupid that I didn't wanted to mention it (save 1 sec) but there was one thing that was worth remembering in that run. I had Almost perfect fight with Benoit, that let me save around 40 sec. After that I know it will be hard to get another perfect fight with him, so I tried some new strategy for him, and now I have new PB.

Yesterday I finally get under 47 min, to be more precisly, I even get under 46 min haha

My new pb is 45:58 min.

What I was trying to figures out was why Benoit sometimes instead of sending his giant hologram, he do triangle attack, and why sometimes he doesn't dissappear after I damage him. 
I somehow figured it out, in short sometimes when I'm close to him, he doesn't dissappear after taking damage, or when he dissappear and I'm facing the direction he was, he sometimes do triangle attack instead of creating giant hologram.
Also I started using paralysis liquid on him. 6 is enough to stagger him long enough so I can place 8 bombs, run away and detonate it.
There are a lot of "sometimes" because everytime there is something different from last time, so I still can't find strategy that would work everytime, but I'm happy with strategy that I have now.

I still can save a couple of seconds here and there, it was really solid run, but I'm sure I can beat it.

Also I get little carried away so sorry for any "stupid" comments that I could say during my run.
You can watch my run here  [url]http://www.twitch.tv/senvy/c/3315730[/url]