So this is the game I decided to do as my first serious run.
First off, magic mode doesn't seem like it'd save too much time -- maybe magic management might be better, but given you have less hits to work with (for plowing through enemies instead of avoiding, etc) it probably doesn't make up for it. It's essentially hard mode vs normal's normal mode.
Now, there's a mini-speed guide int he FAQ on Gamefaqs, but this version is a bit different. Most notably you can warp to anywhere, not just in pairs of spots. There's also a quick 100 jewels you can get by talking to the guy at the warp squip of the Pumpkin Patch before talking to the mayor -- you need to activate this warp anyway (it's a LOT faster to detour to activate it than to walk all the way back), so it's essentially no time loss.
Then there's 100% (get all maybe items), which is what I spent all day routing. Even this is pretty streightfoward, except for one big thing -- money at the end. It's easy to get through the game and get everything, but buying the last few items prooves problematic. Even with my extra wandering around (I still stuff well out of order trying to FIND the order) and not being overly efficiant, not to mention the ~four and a half minute 2nd trip into Hypno Tower right after getting the magic jam for 120 jewels, I was way short on the last couple items.
The only thing you can 'save' money on is potions You pretty much at minimum need a couple magic potions for the two trips into Battle Tower, and more is helpful. Plus health potions allow you to plow forward in some places (especially the boss of hypno tower).
Here's my initial route up through getting all the items. Only real changes outside of places to farm money I can think of MAYBE would be some of forest items if it's slightly more efficiant (based on where the jump plates are)
My route also relies on resetting until getting 50 from the initial battle -- the Storm Puff makes the first boss go VERY quick (~30 seconds). In fact even grinding the last few and going back might be faster (the FAQ suggests warping from the forest but I'm pretty sure that would take just long enough to be not worth it)
so yeah, no glitches or anything. Also, always press select (or equivilant) to skip all dialogue.
Any ideas on money grinding would be appreciated. 120 in 4.5 minutes is pretty good but if there's any better would love to hear it.
Also pondering moving attract magic earlier which should help get some money, I'd thinjk.
First off, magic mode doesn't seem like it'd save too much time -- maybe magic management might be better, but given you have less hits to work with (for plowing through enemies instead of avoiding, etc) it probably doesn't make up for it. It's essentially hard mode vs normal's normal mode.
Now, there's a mini-speed guide int he FAQ on Gamefaqs, but this version is a bit different. Most notably you can warp to anywhere, not just in pairs of spots. There's also a quick 100 jewels you can get by talking to the guy at the warp squip of the Pumpkin Patch before talking to the mayor -- you need to activate this warp anyway (it's a LOT faster to detour to activate it than to walk all the way back), so it's essentially no time loss.
Then there's 100% (get all maybe items), which is what I spent all day routing. Even this is pretty streightfoward, except for one big thing -- money at the end. It's easy to get through the game and get everything, but buying the last few items prooves problematic. Even with my extra wandering around (I still stuff well out of order trying to FIND the order) and not being overly efficiant, not to mention the ~four and a half minute 2nd trip into Hypno Tower right after getting the magic jam for 120 jewels, I was way short on the last couple items.
The only thing you can 'save' money on is potions You pretty much at minimum need a couple magic potions for the two trips into Battle Tower, and more is helpful. Plus health potions allow you to plow forward in some places (especially the boss of hypno tower).
Here's my initial route up through getting all the items. Only real changes outside of places to farm money I can think of MAYBE would be some of forest items if it's slightly more efficiant (based on where the jump plates are)
My route also relies on resetting until getting 50 from the initial battle -- the Storm Puff makes the first boss go VERY quick (~30 seconds). In fact even grinding the last few and going back might be faster (the FAQ suggests warping from the forest but I'm pretty sure that would take just long enough to be not worth it)
(reset until 50 jewels from first battle)
Go left initially, get egg
Buy Storm Puff (-50)
Talk to squid
Avoid cave
To Rottytops
Talk twice at chef girl
KILL PUPPY!! (+100 gems)
Enter dungeon
Top right door
At key chest, watch for drop
Left at drop, both pots
Streight at chains
After monkey, lots of vases in bottom of first room
Magic Jam in center
Back to top right
Magic Jam top of climb
Return
Top of chain room vases
Warp to Lilac
Get heart holder before town
Across to patch
Get 100 gems’
Activate squid
Buy pike ball, super pike ball, magic fill (-300)
Three potions + Three magic potions (-65) (One potion + one magic potion (-25))
Skip warp
Chests + Jam
Activate warp, warp to patch
Magic jam in cave before desert
Magic jam in cave other side of Baron’s tent
Battle Tower (-20)
Elephant
Vases after elephant - don’t leave room
Second forest screen, right. Get jam, break rock.
Heart holder in cave
Warp to lylac fields
Buy fireball, spitfire (-80)
3 potion + 3 magic?? (-65)
Cave after save guy, magic jam
Cave outside of Baron guy for gems
Monkey dance + get vase
Tower round 2 (-20) - Magic jam
Elephant Stomp
West desert, magic jam (hole/death warp)
Back to pumpkin patch outside
Warp to forest
Back Second forest screen, left,
Third forest screen, left. Magic jam
Forth forest screen, break golem, magic jam in cave and coffee maker
Back past dungeon, break rock, coffee beans
Warp to lylac field
Cave directly right
Back to scuttle town
Mega Silky Cream (-200)
(Mega Pike Ball (-300))
Talk to Sky
Latte to zombies
Hypno tower
First eye, right
Break big vases
Eye pointing up
Break vase, monkey across
Keep eyes open, get key
Close right eye
Break vase in spike room
Big vases next room
Four round of same direction
Third one (left/left), first part monkey
Forth (up/up) break vase on way down
Up/Down - Magic jam and vases
Inways (right/left) -- use four keys, lots o money
Outways (left/right) -- use code
Back to big eye room. Close left
Enter, get money
Open right, enter toward water room
Vases in water room
Get skull part, back to first eye room
Eye pointing left
Get other skull part
Eye pointing up, back to skull door
Defeat boss
Back west, merdain at opening
West, then down through false wall
Get squid + chests, back to scuttle
Buy super silky cream, attract magic, mega pike (-700)
Heart Holder in water
Continue on, annoying cave for magic jam
Golden Quid at bridge area
Warp to Mermaid Cliffs
Right to bridge area, left in water to squid
Warp to Lylac field
To lighthouse
Talk first to them, THEN to squid to get shooter
Down into water, right for jewel cache
To Hypno Tower
To mermaid room - first eye up, right big eye hit closed
Inwards for jewel cache, outwards for magic jam
(Redo multiple times for extra 120 each?)
Walk to Lilac Field
Warp to forest
To squid cavern
Streight forward to water room for magic jam
Back to Scuttle town, buy what’s left
Go left initially, get egg
Buy Storm Puff (-50)
Talk to squid
Avoid cave
To Rottytops
Talk twice at chef girl
KILL PUPPY!! (+100 gems)
Enter dungeon
Top right door
At key chest, watch for drop
Left at drop, both pots
Streight at chains
After monkey, lots of vases in bottom of first room
Magic Jam in center
Back to top right
Magic Jam top of climb
Return
Top of chain room vases
Warp to Lilac
Get heart holder before town
Across to patch
Get 100 gems’
Activate squid
Buy pike ball, super pike ball, magic fill (-300)
Three potions + Three magic potions (-65) (One potion + one magic potion (-25))
Skip warp
Chests + Jam
Activate warp, warp to patch
Magic jam in cave before desert
Magic jam in cave other side of Baron’s tent
Battle Tower (-20)
Elephant
Vases after elephant - don’t leave room
Second forest screen, right. Get jam, break rock.
Heart holder in cave
Warp to lylac fields
Buy fireball, spitfire (-80)
3 potion + 3 magic?? (-65)
Cave after save guy, magic jam
Cave outside of Baron guy for gems
Monkey dance + get vase
Tower round 2 (-20) - Magic jam
Elephant Stomp
West desert, magic jam (hole/death warp)
Back to pumpkin patch outside
Warp to forest
Back Second forest screen, left,
Third forest screen, left. Magic jam
Forth forest screen, break golem, magic jam in cave and coffee maker
Back past dungeon, break rock, coffee beans
Warp to lylac field
Cave directly right
Back to scuttle town
Mega Silky Cream (-200)
(Mega Pike Ball (-300))
Talk to Sky
Latte to zombies
Hypno tower
First eye, right
Break big vases
Eye pointing up
Break vase, monkey across
Keep eyes open, get key
Close right eye
Break vase in spike room
Big vases next room
Four round of same direction
Third one (left/left), first part monkey
Forth (up/up) break vase on way down
Up/Down - Magic jam and vases
Inways (right/left) -- use four keys, lots o money
Outways (left/right) -- use code
Back to big eye room. Close left
Enter, get money
Open right, enter toward water room
Vases in water room
Get skull part, back to first eye room
Eye pointing left
Get other skull part
Eye pointing up, back to skull door
Defeat boss
Back west, merdain at opening
West, then down through false wall
Get squid + chests, back to scuttle
Buy super silky cream, attract magic, mega pike (-700)
Heart Holder in water
Continue on, annoying cave for magic jam
Golden Quid at bridge area
Warp to Mermaid Cliffs
Right to bridge area, left in water to squid
Warp to Lylac field
To lighthouse
Talk first to them, THEN to squid to get shooter
Down into water, right for jewel cache
To Hypno Tower
To mermaid room - first eye up, right big eye hit closed
Inwards for jewel cache, outwards for magic jam
(Redo multiple times for extra 120 each?)
Walk to Lilac Field
Warp to forest
To squid cavern
Streight forward to water room for magic jam
Back to Scuttle town, buy what’s left
so yeah, no glitches or anything. Also, always press select (or equivilant) to skip all dialogue.
Any ideas on money grinding would be appreciated. 120 in 4.5 minutes is pretty good but if there's any better would love to hear it.
Also pondering moving attract magic earlier which should help get some money, I'd thinjk.
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