Shake Shake! (Mischief Makers

TheCape

2006-08-22 08:53:10 pm

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Lol @ Reik beating my awesomeness.

Anyway, I found a way to beat my time on Moley Cow, working on some strats.

Reik

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Reik: 2006-08-22 09:31:07 pm

2006-08-22 08:58:26 pm

Check this out: The Final Battle - 1:08.82

Man, I'm on a roll lately.

1. Grab, shake 3 times, neutral B.
2. Grab, shake 3 times, throw.
3. Grab, shake 3 times, throw.
4. Position yourself to the left, dash in while avoiding the blast, shake 3 times, throw.
5. Position yourself to the right, grab the fist, throw.
6. Stay in the center, he'll jump to the side and flying kick you. Jump up and grab it, shake 3 times, throw.

Done. No fire beam. 8)

Aw... CRAP! The fire beam was how I got hit to avoid getting the gold gem. Now I'll have to get hit by the big gun blast.

EDIT: Phew. Ok. I can get hit and still get sub 1:10

EDIT2: Oh, Veysey. Can you upload your 3 Clancer Kids run, please? I'm curious to see how you squeezed just past my time.

Veysey

2006-08-22 10:22:47 pm

Outclassed!

I'll upload sometime tonight... but if you guys keep this up, im never gonna get to submit anything >.<

anyways... i wanted sub 13 SOOOO bad, but I cant squeeze it out

here it is

MERCO!! 13.17!!!!!!

Reik

2006-08-22 10:25:43 pm

WTF?! How did you do that? Shocked

Did you wait for him to randomly stand still after the 3rd lance throw?

Veysey

2006-08-22 10:48:53 pm

Outclassed!

no, i can repeat the act easily... initally i was going for sub 14 and having a hell of a time and all of a sudden 13.35... i was like BAH!!! WTF?!?! tried for sub 13 but no go...

you only need to throw the spear diagonally once in the beginning, then throw it straight down twice... try it out, you'll see Tongue

Reik

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Reik: 2006-08-22 11:28:34 pm

2006-08-22 11:25:11 pm

This strat is awesome. Great find, Veysey. I also just got 13.17. Smiley

I just had an idea that might make it go even lower.

Veysey

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Veysey: 2006-08-22 11:31:04 pm

2006-08-22 11:30:14 pm

Outclassed!

what is the idea? I have tried a lot of things...

what exactly did you do to get 13.17? I have managed that time with 3 different strats O_o but never lower

Oh and your final battle only needs two shakes on any of the sets... down to 1:07.12 now...

TheCape

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TheCape: 2006-08-23 12:08:16 am

2006-08-22 11:40:01 pm

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Cerberus: 41.67

I think I can drop it a wee bit lower.

Gonna try.

I also found a way to drop 20 or so seconds on Moley Cow and Ghost Hunter.

So excited about it Smiley

Reik

2006-08-23 12:21:24 am

Damn, my idea isn't working. I was going to use the shield, but I think the shield isn't even worth half of a spear hit.

I got 13.17 by shaking the spear down and dropping it with neutral B, throwing the shield away, turning around, grabbing the spear and throwing straight down (which hit him once). Then throwing the spear straight down with my back turned to him twice more (this hit him a total of 4 times), and then throwing him straight down.

Veysey

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Veysey: 2006-08-23 12:39:27 am

2006-08-23 12:38:57 am

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HAHAHAHAHAHA no... the shield isnt worth shit... i thought of that as well... I actually had a round where i threw the spear down 3 times hitting him 6 times and killing him.... suprisingly I gazed upon 13.5x .... dont know where i went wrong... you figure that would have gone sub 13 easy :-/

Cape: not sharing the wealth? hahahaha

Reik

2006-08-23 12:42:44 am

A throw down for the final hit is the fastest way, because if you kill him with anything else he bounces.

TheCape

2006-08-23 12:48:20 am

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The Moley Cow and Ghost Catcher strats are for Gem only.

I dont want to share the Cerberus insanity because I think I can sub 41, and I will tape it :-p

Veysey

2006-08-23 01:00:44 am

Outclassed!

OK Cape... thats awesome... I should be able to sub 41 cerberus as well, but the timing is retarded (at least for me :-/)

Reik, if you throw the spear diagonally down as he is jumping, i can see that eating away precious milliseconds... but for the spear clip him twice while he is so close to the ground, he just drops... oh well... hahahaha

Currently Cerberus is eating my soul... and kicking my ass while he is at it...

TheCape

2006-08-23 01:09:04 am

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I am trying to get a good run recorded, even without the 41 second timing.

Veysey

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Veysey: 2006-08-23 01:58:54 am

2006-08-23 01:34:48 am

Outclassed!

Oh Reik, I've been meaning to ask you... in Blockman, what technique do you use to keep your speed up at the end... it always freaks out at me and just stops dead... sucks cause even on an awesome level... that'll take up a good 2-3 seconds of my time :-/

Edit to below: K, thanks ... no different than me though, hahahaah ^_^

Reik

2006-08-23 01:38:45 am

I mash right on the D-pad + C-right as I'm going through that last barricade.

TheCape

2006-08-23 04:17:34 am

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Got a bad run of Moley Cow and Ghost Catcher, but it at least gives you a solid idea of the strats.

Veysey

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Veysey: 2006-08-23 06:02:07 am

2006-08-23 04:32:56 am

Outclassed!

where are the videos Cape?

Currenty my time is 33:37.20...

things I have left to do....

Quality cleanup on:
Spike Land
~~Blockman Raises~~

Times I'd like to improve:
Clanball Land (19.30~ or lower)
Toadly Raw (25.99 or lower)
7 Clancer Kids (4:30~ or lower depending on the run)

I'd like to have below 33:30, but right now I think I should consider finishing up and getting ready for submission... my clanball land time is not acceptable in my eyes, so I NEED to improve that... and runs with quality issues need to be redone.... (despite Spike land being 5.92 :'()

Of course if something new and amazing is discovered, I'll be all over that... but I likely wont be the one hunting right now...

TheCape

2006-08-23 03:57:58 pm

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41.67 Cerberus Strat (time of 41.88): http://files.filefront.com/Cerberus4188divx/;5446840;;/fileinfo.html

Ghost Catcher Gem Strat: http://files.filefront.com/Ghost_Catcher_stratdivx/;5446866;;/fileinfo.html

Moley Strat with Gem:

http://files.filefront.com/Moley_Stratdivx/;5446906;;/fileinfo.html

please bear in mind that I was super tired when I did these so they have no polish.

Reik

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Reik: 2006-08-23 04:50:08 pm

2006-08-23 04:46:42 pm

I just killed him one small missile early and got 40.63!!

Here's what I did.

First volley: Hit with charged missile, charge another.
Second volley: Throw charged missile, throw 3 uncharged missiles, charge 4th.
Jump over: Hit with charged missile.
Third volley: Hit with 3 uncharged missiles, charge 4th and hit.
Fourth volley: 1st uncharged, charge and hit with 2nd, charge and hit with 4th.
5th volley: 1 uncharged missile.

The TAS time has officially been beaten by the speedrunners again!

If only there were a way to fit in one more small missile so that he dies on the 4th volley, this would be sub-40.

TheCape

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TheCape: 2006-08-23 05:10:07 pm

2006-08-23 05:06:06 pm

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39.60 Cerberus!

TOO GOOD!

This is my level, period.

I also dropped Clanball land (with gem) to 22.73.

Smiley

Can someone get me the TAS video? I wanna beat a few more of its times :-p

Reik

2006-08-23 06:19:21 pm

WOW! How did you do it? I think I know how to as well, but I doubt I can pull it off.

Btw this is probably obvious, but we can safely assume that 2 uncharged missiles are stronger than 1 charged missile. Just thought I'd say it.

@Veysey - Sucks that you have to redo some levels. :-/
Did you manage to get sub-34 on Blockman?

Spacecow

2006-08-23 07:22:31 pm

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Can someone get me the TAS video? I wanna beat a few more of its times :-p

It's still at http://cupofdirt.net/stuff/nitsuja_mmtasWIP.avi. I'm still being consistently surprised by either how close you guys are coming, or how you guys are beating it Smiley

Veysey

2006-08-23 07:49:17 pm

Outclassed!

No, I didnt get sub 34 Reik... but that level is hell for me.... once all the bombs show up, everything slows down and it ALWAYS screws me over Sad

And it really sucks cause if you just try to adjust your timing, that doesnt work either... you just end up all over the place cause the game slows down, speeds back up then REALLY slows down... ugh! If I get gutsy, I'll likey try to get closer to your time... but really, it'll be a matter of luck(in my case) Sad

Spacecow... Nitsuja was saying he cant continue until we finish ripping it apart because of all the things that are being discovered (which is mainly the reasons we are beating his times) but honestly, anything with a boostgrab is pretty much gonna school any human time until someone comes up with a 100% perfect BG technique... either way, some times I'm happy with (like Reiks Clanball land and everyones magma rafts) and some I am not.... levels like Snowstorm maze are retarded.... I mean 20 seconds difference Sad

Reik

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Reik: 2006-08-23 08:58:36 pm

2006-08-23 08:24:21 pm

Heheh. I just got 18.45 on Clanball Land on tape. I think I can get sub-18... but man is it hard. There are SOOOOOO many inputs. It's insane. @_@

DAMN! 18.02!! SO FREAKIN CLOSE!!!

*takes deep breaths and tries again*