SDA Speedrunning Tourney -- ALL CLEAR

2008-12-22 07:29:02 pm

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Ah, on the contrary I thought Pocky & Rocky was insanely difficult, since I never play shmups.

You're right about the power, once I get it I never lose it. At the end of the sidescrolling part of stage 3 I have like 225 seconds of it left. Tongue

Hm.. if N and F are the same power then I could probably utilize N a little more. I still think F is superior on bosses because it sticks around. You can hit, dodge, then hit again all without having the stream of damage interrupted (and it's seemingly ~200 dps). Though I could use N more often for the levels themselves for places like when a huge robot or something similar gets in my way. H is still really nice during the stages because it basically obliterates everything since a lot of the enemies die in one or a few hit(s). On side-scrollers, it's godly. I never use G.

I'll have to look for that shortcut in stage 4. Definitely didn't catch it first time around. That would help immensely as that stage always has my worst health-management.

And I've never used Fraps. Tongue

Edit: Owned by page break. Sad

Ah, on the contrary I thought Pocky & Rocky was insanely difficult, since I never play shmups.

You're right about the power, once I get it I never lose it. At the end of the sidescrolling part of stage 3 I have like 225 seconds of it left. :P

Hm.. if N and F are the same power then I could probably utilize N a little more. I still think F is superior on bosses because it sticks around. You can hit, dodge, then hit again all without having the stream of damage interrupted (and it's seemingly ~200 dps). Though I could use N more often for the levels themselves for places like when a huge robot or something similar gets in my way. H is still really nice during the stages because it basically obliterates everything since a lot of the enemies die in one or a few hit(s). On side-scrollers, it's godly. I never use G.

I'll have to look for that shortcut in stage 4. Definitely didn't catch it first time around. That would help immensely as that stage always has my worst health-management.

And I've never used Fraps. :P

Edit: Owned by page break. :(

NoiseCrash

2008-12-23 03:12:17 pm

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32:55 - NoiseCrash - ALL - Axel

Memorized the enemy patterns a little better and did a better job of remembering what weapon to switch to and where. This can still come down though.

groobo

2008-12-23 10:11:20 pm

boss

Quote from Enhasa:

groobo: Maybe you got a different rom the 2nd time, because when I tried with snes9x 1.51, it didn't say rom mismatch or any type of error. It just desynced a bit after the frog. Unchecking fake mute usually works for me, but not here.

When loading a replay in 1.51, in the lower left corner of the window it says that the rom isn't right, then the movie plays anyway but desynchs. Tried like 10 different emulator versions and all p&r roms I could find, none work :(.

On a side note, I won't be playing this week due to everything christmas related and the fact that I'm running diablo again so I'm investing most of my free time into it.

AquaTiger

2008-12-27 08:05:33 am

Never give up!

5:08 - FrostyTheDragon - Stage 1 - Axel

As I said in the other thread, I'm only posting a time to get on the scoreboard at all.

Anyway, I found myself actually using Axel's G weapon the most. Mainly because it rips the hell out of grounded enemies and gets pretty godly in areas with ceilings (if the powered-up version hits the ceiling or floor it becomes a character-size shockwave that goes through enemies, hitting ALL the while). Used N, F, and H (when I can't get a good angle with other weapons) mostly against bosses, though N was useful when G has a hard time working.

If I hadn't done so poorly against the chameleon sub-boss I might have had a chance at clearing two stages.

RaneofSOTN

2008-12-27 04:27:21 pm

I want off the ride....

18:39 - Stage 3 (clear) - RaneofSoTN - Axel

Is it just me or is H really useful in the auto scroll levels? i need to beat the mid boss of stage 3 quicker.. and that was glorified suckage on that 3rd guardian for me.

Meh; this game is interesting/fun but its hard for me... On a keyboard anyway...

NoiseCrash

2008-12-27 05:13:51 pm

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Quote from RaneofSOTN:

Is it just me or is H really useful in the auto scroll levels?

Trust me, it's not just you. Once you get outside on stage 3 you can stand all the way to the left, face the right, and not have to do ANYTHING for a couple minutes while holding down the button, just let H do all the work. Basically it's also the same thing with stage 5. You'll kill basically everything before they even show up on screen.

Quote from RaneofSOTN:

i need to beat the mid boss of stage 3 quicker

The fastest I've gotten it is that you defeat it before you've finished going up the hill. When he does the attack where the projectiles (spinning blade thingys) curve up and over you, then come back. As soon as they come back, generally one more hit with F should do it if you did it optimally the rest of the time. Basically just make it so that he keeps taking damage from F shots, it's not that hard with practice.

Quote from RaneofSOTN:

and that was glorified suckage on that 3rd guardian for me.

The 3rd guardian is easy once you figure out his pattern (but then again so are all of them). I stand right next to him and blast him with F while avoiding the projectiles. It's kind of hard to explain, I wish I had a video. But you stand on the ground and do an up-right F twice, then jump and do one F straight to the right (you'll jump over his shots) and repeat. You should dodge his shots every time while keeping a constant 200 dps on him. If you do it right he'll completely skip his second phase (where he does the missiles, bomb-spread, and larger gunshots) and go straight to the "flying above you" phase. Then I usually kill him just after he starts shooting missiles the second time, though I tend to miss somewhat regularly during that phase so it can probably be done quicker with more practice.

Invest in a USB gamepad. You can get one that works well for 10 bucks, if that. It rocks and makes emulated gaming more fun. Breakdown probably wouldn't agree with me though, since iirc he always uses a keyboard. Tongue

[quote="RaneofSOTN"]
Is it just me or is H really useful in the auto scroll levels?[/quote]

Trust me, it's not just you. Once you get outside on stage 3 you can stand all the way to the left, face the right, and not have to do ANYTHING for a couple minutes while holding down the button, just let H do all the work. Basically it's also the same thing with stage 5. You'll kill basically everything before they even show up on screen.

[quote="RaneofSOTN"]
i need to beat the mid boss of stage 3 quicker[/quote]

The fastest I've gotten it is that you defeat it before you've finished going up the hill. When he does the attack where the projectiles (spinning blade thingys) curve up and over you, then come back. As soon as they come back, generally one more hit with F should do it if you did it optimally the rest of the time. Basically just make it so that he keeps taking damage from F shots, it's not that hard with practice.

[quote="RaneofSOTN"]
and that was glorified suckage on that 3rd guardian for me.[/quote]

The 3rd guardian is easy once you figure out his pattern (but then again so are all of them). I stand right next to him and blast him with F while avoiding the projectiles. It's kind of hard to explain, I wish I had a video. But you stand on the ground and do an up-right F twice, then jump and do one F straight to the right (you'll jump over his shots) and repeat. You should dodge his shots every time while keeping a constant 200 dps on him. If you do it right he'll completely skip his second phase (where he does the missiles, bomb-spread, and larger gunshots) and go straight to the "flying above you" phase. Then I usually kill him just after he starts shooting missiles the second time, though I tend to miss somewhat regularly during that phase so it can probably be done quicker with more practice.

Invest in a USB gamepad. You can get one that works well for 10 bucks, if that. It rocks and makes emulated gaming more fun. Breakdown probably wouldn't agree with me though, since iirc he always uses a keyboard. :P

Breakdown

2008-12-27 05:24:44 pm

Haters gonna hate

Keyboard gamer 4 life.

That's just how I roll. Grin

NoiseCrash

2008-12-27 05:48:50 pm

@_@

Quote from Breakdown:

That's just how I roll. Grin

If I had gold keys on my keyboard, that's probably how I would roll also.

You participating this week?

Enhasa

2008-12-27 11:12:38 pm

everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music

Let's have a tourney that runs through Christmas! This will surely be a great idea!

0:32:31 - Enhasa - ALL - Ruka

Enhasa

Edit history:

Enhasa: 2008-12-28 10:23:56 pm

2008-12-28 10:17:44 pm

everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music

Ok, thanks to everyone who participated and see you next tourney, no matter what it is and when it is and who's running it. Smiley

Edit: lol awesome tourney, Normand won even though he didn't even play final week, because almost nobody played so it was worth very little

BTW, here are my pre-tourney qualifications of tourney success, let's see how we do:

0 speedruns produced (I figured more people would participate but probably there would be 0 runs): failure
1 speedrun produced: success
2+ speedruns produced: wild success

NoiseCrash

2008-12-28 10:26:46 pm

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I think Breakdown is definitely going to do a run of Ristar, so it should at least be at "success" level.

If only I had actually taken the time to bring my time down a little further this week I would've tied Normand for first, it seems. Tongue

Enhasa

2008-12-28 10:30:43 pm

everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music

Yeah but maybe I would have done the same, or maybe not, who knows. Cheesy

I know I have room to improve.

NoiseCrash

2008-12-28 10:34:19 pm

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Same. I had pretty drastic room for improvement when I look back on it.

Oh well, it was a fun four weeks. I'm glad this thing existed even if it ran during Christmas. Wink

Enhasa

2008-12-28 11:06:34 pm

everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music

More than any other game in the tourney, I wonder what the limit for a Gunners Heaven time would approach.

groobo

2008-12-29 07:50:32 am

boss

Actually if I had the means to run Yume, I would produce the most awesomistic run ever. I really would. The rest of the tourney: meh.

Enhasa

2008-12-29 01:29:53 pm

everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music

vgmr wants to run Yume for SDA. Wild success here we come.

groobo: This tourney suffered from a distinct lack of Armed Police Batrider.

groobo

2008-12-29 10:12:49 pm

boss

Hey, I want to run it for sda too! It's just that I don't have neither the cart nor a ntsc-j nes :(.