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Driscollad: 2015-03-01 07:58:14 pm
Hey all, time to get the commentary set as we're a little over 2 months away.

Commentary Signup Form
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1VWm-K-6P1lcci6pHwCDFVUzhrdHh4gFegf23E4YM6oA/viewform?usp=send_form

Some general thoughts and suggestions were compiled after the feedback from Crystals For Life 2014, and follow. Keep in mind, these are based on the feedback of the viewership expected to tune in for RPGLB, so it's worth scanning through the points at your leisure.

General Considerations:

-The marathon will be adhering to a PG policy. Ensure all commentary and actions are in accordance.
-Read up on NAMI. Understand why we’ve all come together to support them. Feel free, if comfortable, to share any personal experiences with mental illness that can help bring light to NAMI’s work.
-Marathon commentary of an RPG will differ significantly from the average 15-30 minute run at a GDQ. It’s extremely hard to talk about a run only for 3+ hours, so don’t! Mix it up. Work with the host to allow time for incentive plugs, prizes, upcoming games, and NAMI info sessions.
-Factor in the time of day. Graveyard (UTC - 7:00) runs will generally have more dead air to fill, and will benefit from a more conversational approach.
-Having more information than you can comfortably use is better than the alternative.
-The more natural and human the commentary, the more relatable you are, such as “I could never figure out this boss fight as a kid”
-Many attendees (and especially the organizers) are very gifted at entertaining an audience in a marathon setting. You can and should approach them for some pointers on marathon commentary.

Runner Tips:

-Not everyone will be familiar with you, your run, or even the game to begin with. The simplified solution is to make the run accessible to everyone. You may have to explain some topics in layman’s terms, even more so than usual.
-Introduce yourself and your couch mates. Trust me, it’s quite easy to forget this step. But take it further. Sometime during the run, talk about what got you into speedrunning, or running this game. It’s your chance to grow the community of your speedgame of choice, take advantage.
-The first 5 minutes is the best time to touch on the particulars of the game itself. Release date, reception, similar titles if obscure, size of speedrun community, maybe the run history even.
-The folks that have offered to commentate your run have done so because they enjoy watching you, the game, the particulars of the run, or a combination of it all. Therefore they likely don’t need a 100 page document detailing the route ad nauseum. A simple point form outline of the route / tech is more than enough, because the couch crew should be preparing too.
-Whether you’re great at leading the commentary (many of you are) or prefer to focus on the run while your co-pilots talk for you, meet up with the crew to set a general plan of how the play-by-play will be split.
-In the 3 months leading up to your run, take note of the most common questions that come up in your chat during run attempts. Chances are they will be asked during RPG Limit Break.
-Start setting stream time to no-reset runs. Practice rolling with the punches, and commentating along with them.
-A great flow to commentary is simply setting up the topic (“So coming up, I’m about to skip the boss fight”) and then letting a co-commentator follow through (“and maybe Vulajin here can explain how I’m going to do that.”) Having a variety of voices in conversation is much easier to follow and listen to. It also allows you to focus on more difficult moments.
-HAVE FUN! It’s not going to be WR pace with the incentives anyway, so focus on actually enjoying the run. Smile and laugh through the good and bad. Everyone else will too. Promise.

Commentator Tips:

-Watch your runner’s attempts. Many times. Pay attention to how he or she commentates, because you’ll need to compliment it.
-While on site, meet up with your runner. If they get some practice in, sit in with them.
-The task of explaining the more specific tech, skips, etc. may fall on you, so beyond understanding it fully, practice breaking it down to someone that may not necessarily follow the run in question.
-On the contrary, you might find the right opportunity to demystify the most brain-busting enigmas of speedrunning elements, such as “What is RNG?” I’m sure your runner would appreciate if you could answer that, as well as the most common questions he or she might be tired of answering.
-If the runner is nervous, you’re going to be their crutch until they feel comfortable. Maybe keep the mood light, or even do the bulk of the beginning commentary until they catch their breath.
-Perhaps you’re nervous. Simply put, don’t be. You have the easier job here, and with 2 or more on the couch, you’ll get your stride. Just go with the flow.

The dreaded DON’TS!

-Don’t Spectate. The viewers are doing that. The attendees behind you are doing that. You are on the couch, so you’re the entertainment. Entertain! Dead air is baaaad. If it’s not a great cutscene (Bromides, cough…), or the host, it’s you.
-Don’t absolutely dump as much information as possible, as quickly as possible. It’s an RPG speedrun, likely 3+ hours. You'll both never cover everything, nor be able to fill all your time with insightful information. Spread it out with an even pace.
-Don’t Pass it on to the host if they’re not ready. There’s a slim chance the host may not have a donation to read at the time, or may have very recently talked about the charity.
-Don’t fall asleep. Haha!! Ok, seriously though, don’t fall asleep.
-Don’t get salty. The people that enjoy that are far outweighed by the people that get uncomfortable by it.
-Don’t have a conversation with the game. By that, I mean “really game? Seriously??? C’mon, game!! Terrible…”
-With one obvious exception, please don’t crap all over your game. Many of the viewers are probably tuning in because they love the game. If something in the control scheme makes an aspect of the run difficult or irritating, simply say that. The preceding clearly does not apply to the one obvious exception.
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You are on the couch, so you’re the entertainment. Entertain! Dead air is baaaad. If it’s not a great cutscene (Bromides, cough…), or the host, it’s you.


I agree, some (one) Bromide just writes its own story...

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-Don’t fall asleep. Haha!! Ok, seriously though, don’t fall asleep.


Now who would be silly enough to have this happen to them...  Weather looks nice Smiley
Stay chill, be cool.
I'm definitely going to practice with doing commentary for Xillia and other games I'll be sitting in for.  Also this is when I'm kind of glad that I've been casually playing games in the schedule, just saying.  thumbsup
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Just so people signing up for commentary know, there's a 600 character limit on explaining your relevant experience... Wink
Edit history:
kirbymastah: 2015-03-02 06:09:05 pm
kirbymastah: 2015-03-02 06:08:50 pm
kirbymastah: 2015-03-02 06:08:35 pm
kirbymastah: 2015-03-02 06:08:22 pm
kirbymastah: 2015-03-02 06:08:04 pm
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What if we want to commentate on the best game ever a certain game that dragondarch and UA are running with an awesome gameboy version, and just make fun of that port?

(runs)

no really crystalic GBC plz

also do we need to submit into the commentary form for our own runs?
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Driscollad: 2015-03-02 07:25:39 pm
Driscollad: 2015-03-02 06:53:53 pm
Oh wait, yeah. We can totally bash GBC Crystalis, that's also expected

Also, for your own runs, simply submit who you'd like to be on the couch with you. Runner should have first say on that, of course
Evermore Extrodinare ᕦ(° Д°)ᕤ
I know nothing of this "falling asleep" you speak of... these are not the droids you're looking for...
twitch.tv/pxmacaiah
Here to express interest for commentating FE:RD and FFT
Bumping this so more attendees have a chance to fill the form out
twitch.tv/pxmacaiah
Do we fill out another form if we want to add games we're interested in?
yup fire away. It'll just update according to new submissions
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Wandering Mind told me that he can no longer attend so it might be best to remove him from fire emblem commentary (and other games on the commentary list). I asked him to post here to confirm himself, but just as a heads up?
raising the stakes on being bad!
Im good for doing Lunar 2, FF6 sketch%, Wild Arms, and Diablo 3
I can also do disgaea, and MMBN3
Is there the possibility for commentary through online voice chat?

I would like to help in the commentary of a couple of games, but I won't be on site.
Stay chill, be cool.
I'm confirming what Kirbymastah said, that I won't be making it to RPG Limit Break.  Moving and starting a new job meant that I had no time to get ready for RPGLB or actually be able to make it there.
Don't worry, we're aware. The commentary list will get polished up before the event.