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everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music
Neat, this will be SDA's first doujin run.

Did you know erka:es is already working hard on the sequel? It's called Rosenkreuzstilette Freudenstachel, and I'm not kidding. They released a demo at Comiket 75 which was in late December. You can download a torrent of it here. I think this is quite acceptable to link since it's a demo, and the torrent of RKS full version is already long dead.
Hope rides alone.
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Neat, this will be SDA's first doujin run.

Did you know erka:es is already working hard on the sequel? It's called Rosenkreuzstilette Freudenstachel, and I'm not kidding. They released a demo at Comiket 75 which was in late December. You can download a torrent of it here. I think this is quite acceptable to link since it's a demo, and the torrent of RKS full version is already long dead.


I hope Nate will be able to complete the game himself to record the outro Cheesy lets hope enough verifiers will be found soon.

Yes, I already know about the sequel. I will look into the demo of it.

ROFL i watched the video of the demo in this post...this game will be MUCH MUCH harder as the previous, redicolously harder to be honest....the level is maybe quadruple the length of Liebeas level in game 1...and the boss fight itself seems harder...and ur initial "buster" has weapon energy...wow. her voice seemed annoying though Smiley

btw, zorne changed her clothes...sweet.
everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music
Dude, I don't know why, but I never fucking realized this would be Nate's perfect game, it's like lolis + Mega Man. Shocked I think it's because I still have an impossible time imagining him playing Mega Man or Sonic after all this time. I mean I try to remember but I always forget. I can only picture him playing random RPGs like Persona for some reason. Or Metroid Prime.

The ending's not going to be included if you just have ILs though. You need to do a SS. Wink


Also, ask Mike but about your question in the first post, I don't think you're allowed to do that... "too hard" isn't an excuse either. Tongue
That question has already been answered by Mike, I think. At any rate the current replays don't do that; there's no need to do that, anyway.

PreddY's run is segmented, not IL, seeing the order can be freely decided and the boss order makes a huge difference etc., that probably will not be a problem. The problem here is that the recorder doesn't show the ending. While I do think the ending is pretty awesome it'd probably add some confusion when the video shows the ending for the game off a replay file when it clearly shouldn't happen. Then again Half-Life's cinematic intro was accepted in the SDA video IIRC, so maybe it isn't such a problem after all.

I should probably note that the replays have a timer and the player's original FPS in the low-right corner of the screen, so you can easily tell the difference between a replay and a recording unless you can turn those off somehow.

I have high hopes for RosenkreuzStilette: Freudenstachel. With the difficulty level (apparently) cranked up and as long as the controls work as well as they do in this game, it'll probably end up as one of my all time favorites. This game did.
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PreddY: 2009-01-14 09:12:37 am
Hope rides alone.
Some Megaman runs are also segmented and the outro is included, although it plays in the last segment. I dont think it should be stay out thinking of the sheer completeness and entertainment value of the run itself. please rethink that (with the right conclusion, please).

the showings in the bottom-right corner can be turned off!

Freudenstachel could rock Smiley
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the showings in the bottom-left corner can be turned off!


I see. For speed running purposes, I'd recommend not taking them off; if your machine is slow the game is slowed down, but apparently plays in normal speed when another comp plays the replay, which is why the shown during play FPS is such a good thing for SDA verification. The clock is accurate as far as I can tell, too.
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PreddY: 2009-01-15 11:57:14 am
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for the RKS2 demo:

it rocks. finally Zorne is a real threat and got some neat moves, and Liebea is strong, too.

woah, Grolla has some real hard level up her sleeve! that slippery part almost got me freaked out with the long jump to that ladder...lucky that Zwinger seems to be Grollas weakness, as it rapes her good.

Liebea has a nice level and her skills improved, too! very good.

Zornes level is just a block hopping now, which is too easy when youve learned it. To fight her, you need some good luck and reflexes, but Zwinger hurts her good, too.

Did anyone find out yet why Grolla hits me out of Zwinger sometimes? I assume its like the move when Freudia used it in RKS1: the real one appears for one of the illusions and if you get hurt the move is cancelled. pretty random, though.

the levels aren't that much longer, just harder or with more traps. still pretty challenging but speedrunnable. hope they will include Eins and Zwei in the final version Smiley


for Grolla run: somebody did a 48 minutes single-segment "run" on YT: http://www.youtube.com/user/RabiEnRoll
maybe it acts as a good reference, although its not that good in some parts.
Hope rides alone.
still looking for Verifiers, ppl Cheesy so if you know the game, please PM to mike. thanks!
I've watched all the replays and everything seems fine, though I'm not entirely sure whether you were supposed to do the first 8 stages in one go, or whether doing them individually and using passwords to restore your progress is okay. Well, I'm sure you wouldn't have done it if you weren't supposed so.

So yeah, I can verify that this run is legit.
This is what people at SDA mean by verification.
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This is what people at SDA mean by verification.


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1) Watch an entire run.
2) Make sure the video and audio quality is fine, such as no audio sync problems or missing portions.
3) Make sure the player isn't cheating.
4) Check for consistency between saves. For example, if one segment ends with 5 bullets and the next starts with 7.
5) Tell me if they're impressed with the run, or if the run is below SDA standards.
6) Help me with timing start/end points, if the game doesn't have a timer.


1. Done
2. Fine
3. Fine.
4. Only applicable to the Fortress stages, but fine.
5. Generally pretty impressive, very good use of Eins/Zwei. Not sure whether the stage order is optimum myself, since I've never tried speed-running the game. As an aside, I have little idea what, exactly, constitutes SDA standards.
6. Not applicable, since the game does it anyway.

As for why I'm verifying this run - PreddY messaged me on YouTube, presumably after seeing this: . I consider myself knowledgeable in the game and its upcoming sequel.
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FallenAngelVeronica: You missed this important line at the top the post.

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DON'T TELL ANYONE YOU'RE A VERIFIER UNTIL THE RUN IS POSTED!
Quote:
FallenAngelVeronica: You missed this important line at the top the post.

DON'T TELL ANYONE YOU'RE A VERIFIER UNTIL THE RUN IS POSTED!


Hm, I'm guessing now that the definition of 'posted' in that sentence isn't the one I've been working with for the entirety of my internet-based life, since it seemed to me that he'd posted the run, right here. Apologies, I guess.
Hope rides alone.
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Quote from 65:
This is what people at SDA mean by verification.


Quote:
1) Watch an entire run.
2) Make sure the video and audio quality is fine, such as no audio sync problems or missing portions.
3) Make sure the player isn't cheating.
4) Check for consistency between saves. For example, if one segment ends with 5 bullets and the next starts with 7.
5) Tell me if they're impressed with the run, or if the run is below SDA standards.
6) Help me with timing start/end points, if the game doesn't have a timer.


1. Done
2. Fine
3. Fine.
4. Only applicable to the Fortress stages, but fine.
5. Generally pretty impressive, very good use of Eins/Zwei. Not sure whether the stage order is optimum myself, since I've never tried speed-running the game. As an aside, I have little idea what, exactly, constitutes SDA standards.
6. Not applicable, since the game does it anyway.

As for why I'm verifying this run - PreddY messaged me on YouTube, presumably after seeing this: . I consider myself knowledgeable in the game and its upcoming sequel.


Wow hi, actually someone reacted to my mails on YT RKS players Smiley
thanks anway for coming here and for verifying it. Too bad you misread that part, but nevertheless, Mike could use your post if the secret Verifying isn't that clear, what it should be Cheesy

btw, SDA standards, play-wise, is that my play isn't that sloppy and I just rush through the game as if I played it for the first time Smiley

hope you enjoyed watching the replays. did you play the RKS2 demo yet?
Currently occupying the grey area.
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FallenAngelVeronica: You missed this important line at the top the post.

DON'T TELL ANYONE YOU'RE A VERIFIER UNTIL THE RUN IS POSTED!


Hm, I'm guessing now that the definition of 'posted' in that sentence isn't the one I've been working with for the entirety of my internet-based life, since it seemed to me that he'd posted the run, right here. Apologies, I guess.


I think they mean that the run needs to be verified and uploaded to the site proper, not just being posted in the forums.
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PreddY: 2009-02-15 02:52:07 pm
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So, lets discuss this here then.

I am pretty fed up with the Fortress. I yelled Hurray when I saw the actual time but I will try tomorrow on improving. You know, my spare time is getting shorter, and if I cannot accomplish a better time tomorrow I will stay with the 21:20 one if the verifier with the lots of criticism would verify it (secretly of course :)).

Nevertheless, I got motivated somehow thinking of the Freudia segment and I retried it. Ive done it in 1:59:50 or so now, which is pretty good according to your comments and sub-2min is nice, too.

Then, I attacked Grolla again for I hated her. After some perfect boss stages and LOTS of sucking Grolla fights I got the time down by 7.5 seconds and it also looks much smoother.

Then, I decided Luste was not good enough because of the mistake I made. So, another try came up! After some serious attempts I brought the time down by 3 seconds.

Thus, my current time is 37:39.44 which is an improvement of 1 minute and 8 seconds.

I must admit I suck at those compressors in Liebeas stage. I know out of your replay that it can be done faster, but I am somehow not able to do it, mostly because my gamepad is too slow somehow. I will give it a shot tomorrow, its not like I dont try you know.

Now that your comp is ready for it, will you finally start your Grolla run? ^^
What gamepad do you have?

Well, I must say that even though having seen your earlier segments, I'm surprised you managed to bring down your total time that much in such a short period of time (a feat which always makes me suspicious of the quality...), but judging by time alone it sounds good. I previously PM'd some new tricks & improvements for you concerning the last segment, as you already know, so I'm hoping you could cut those ~20 seconds or so off that segment at least. Seeing those suggestions should only make it easier (and make it faster, too, of course), I have no doubt you can do it. Not being able to get past that golem quickly in Sepperin 3 is a bit disturbing, seeing I usually have a small room for error and still clear it without problems.

The trick on Liebea's compactors is you need to slide into the pit and slide a bit more (or taking a backwards hit might work, too) so you can go through the second compactor's wire without taking a hit. It's quite easy once you know how. I could always do that for you if you want, but I suspect you want to have the submission all for yourself, so I'll just stand clear and see what you'll come up with.

Good luck!

I'll probably get to that Grolla run sooner or later. I'm going to do some intro stage runs first, though. Grolla run is entirely dependent of my future spare time and my motivation for each run I'm planning to do. Right now real life's keeping me busy, though.
Hope rides alone.
its a USB converted PS1 controller Smiley

my segment quality was already good and up to the standards, I just utilized ur tricks with extreme precision and stumbled upon some new ones in the process. So now those segments are awesome Smiley
btw, I really nearly destroyed my jump button on the keyboard with the perma-slide at Freudia, but at least I was at the gate before the beam wouldve hit me Wink

the day starts, lets hope the best.

may I ask why you practice the intro stage? as Spiritia?
Hope rides alone.
MUHAHAHAHA

who needs you know, Cremator? Cheesy (just kidding...)

http://megaman-int.quotaless.com/tas/Liebea_v2.zip

Improvement: 4.5 seconds
New total: 37:34.05
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65: 2009-02-16 11:42:46 am
I seem to be unable to download it, PreddY. Is your site down? Still, good job on improving the segment! I guess clearing the compactors properly was more of a time saver than I thought, or did you figure out something else, too?

Anyway, here's my intro stage with Grolla. I'm not sure if "Prologue run" is a valid category, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be, seeing there're runs for Half-Life's "Hazard Course"... regardless, I'll put it here for you to see.

I first got 1'16'24, but I eventually managed to improve it to 1'15'79 by being awesome. The only mistakes I spotted were not dashing perfectly on a few occasions (like one or two times total), letting Grolla drop a bit more than the least possible amount during teleporting out (not sure if the trick even saves time, and if it does, the timeloss is only a few frames. It's more unorthodox, at least) and selecting "save replay". Tell me what you think.
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I seem to be unable to download it, PreddY. Is your site down? Still, good job on improving the segment! I guess clearing the compactors properly was more of a time saver than I thought, or did you figure out something else, too?

Anyway, here's my intro stage with Grolla. I'm not sure if "Prologue run" is a valid category, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be, seeing there're runs for Half-Life's "Hazard Course"... regardless, I'll put it here for you to see.

I first got 1'16'24, but I eventually managed to improve it to 1'15'79 by being awesome. The only mistakes I spotted were not dashing perfectly on a few occasions (like one or two times total), letting Grolla drop a bit more than the least possible amount during teleporting out (not sure if the trick even saves time, and if it does, the timeloss is only a few frames. It's more unorthodox, at least) and selecting "save replay". Tell me what you think.


hm, I just tested and the link worked for me, might retry multiple times. I also updated the replays on the first post if u wanna see them.

Nice Grolla thing there. Looks really neat and Grollas replays will be so fast that it drives watchers insane Smiley that little trick looks entertaining, too, so do it if u can! nevertheless, now I cant wait for your Grolla run. And as I am excited now, I am afraid youll have to work on it now Wink

anyway, I really did attempts on Fortress the whole day but I didnt even get to Iris 4 Smiley Just so hard and maybe deep inside me I know my current run is now really good enough. Cant tell. Might retry. But I think I will re-submit this on Monday or so, as I managed to do everything you told me to and my mistakes arent a minute or more now, mostly there arent even mistakes, just missed opportunities. I know it can be done better, but after today, I doubt I possibly can Sad
I watched your redone segments for the first four bosses. Now that's what I was talking about! Not only are they faster, they look so much better & cleaner now. Good job! Grolla's midboss was a bit on the slow side, though, seeing how many shots you missed.
Hope rides alone.
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I watched your redone segments for the first four bosses. Now that's what I was talking about! Not only are they faster, they look so much better & cleaner now. Good job! Grolla's midboss was a bit on the slow side, though, seeing how many shots you missed.


Thanks!
As I told, I had perfect Grolla stages but suckage boss fights afterwards, I decided to try each stage run unless I made really big mistakes. In this one, Grolla went real easy on me, dropping the time remarkably.
Also Grolla seemed to be somewhat angry on me, as when I retried the segment she sometimes jumped directly into me while I hugged the left wall, which she NEVER did before, anytime. Isnt that beautiful? No. But it actually made me laugh when she did it ^^
There is no victory without combat
Just a question, am I the only german who is confused by that title?!? It doenst mean anything I can understand...but it sounds like the japanese are really germans of the east.
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Just a question, am I the only german who is confused by that title?!? It doenst mean anything I can understand...but it sounds like the japanese are really germans of the east.


welcome to the RKS thread Cheesy
you kidding right? I am german, too, and a Rosenkreuzstilette is a small dagger with an enblem on it, namely a cross with or of roses. In this game, this surely refers to a small dagger with a cross as the handle and painted roses on it, as you see if you watch Grollas sword or Sichtes weapon. Dont you love how the japanese voices spell german words? ^^