Rise of the Tomb Raider

TheArtisticBallistic

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TheArtisticBallistic: 2016-02-04 02:48:04 am

2016-02-04 02:33:06 am

good luck!

EDIT: Sorry for the Syria spam but that part cant happen in a speedrun...
So this might help you..

MoXxi

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MoXxi: 2016-02-04 03:29:22 am

2016-02-04 03:00:46 am

AB I'm doing the exact same thing right now Cheesy

But I'm using AX climb instead of back aiming

EDIT: Made it to the flooded corridor

TheArtisticBallistic

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TheArtisticBallistic: 2016-02-04 03:33:09 am

2016-02-04 03:31:04 am

Yea me too... did you axe climb up a red rock then jump on a floating brighter rock?

EDIT: @Moxxi There is a loading trigger you can hit from OoB

MoXxi

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MoXxi: 2016-02-04 03:40:40 am

MoXxi: 2016-02-04 03:39:36 am

2016-02-04 03:32:20 am

Yep the floating rock. But once in the corridor I don't see any path :/

EDIT: Ok so, I reached the monolith and the cutscene started. So I guess that's a skip, but it feels really long, and going OOB is a bit tricky. I'll keep looking though
EDIT2: Hehe we're progressing at the same pace Cheesy

TheArtisticBallistic

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TheArtisticBallistic: 2016-02-04 03:48:58 am

TheArtisticBallistic: 2016-02-04 03:40:06 am

2016-02-04 03:38:00 am

Damn it i triggered the cutscene inside of the cave Sad

I thought i had it

EDIT: Lol we did the same thing then

EDIT2: I'm afraid it takes too long indeed... even if we could skip the entire thing

SamuraiBlue

2016-02-04 08:53:53 am

@Eydas Unfortunately the new Research Base skip does not work on X360. Lara doesn't get OoB no matter what. :/

Also I haven't been able to get OoB in Syria.

MrTau

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MrTau: 2016-02-04 09:11:35 am

MrTau: 2016-02-04 09:08:41 am

2016-02-04 09:08:19 am

dam that explanation made it easy thx moXxi Cheesy

first try after i failed for 2 hours yesterday this is so easy dam

MoXxi

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MoXxi: 2016-02-04 10:00:24 am

MoXxi: 2016-02-04 09:22:14 am

MoXxi: 2016-02-04 09:22:02 am

2016-02-04 09:10:54 am

I just found a way to do a full bear skip! I'm just gonna do some more testing to be sure it doesn't softlock and I post a video.

@MrTau, glad you made it Cheesy

EDIT: I wonder, if we completely skip the bear we also skip the healing tutorial. Does that mean we won't be able to heal for the rest of the game ?
EDIT2: Well it softlocks. I'll still upload it so you guys can find some tweaks to make it work!

Leemyy

2016-02-04 10:22:33 am

Hey everyone, I recently picked up this game and decided, that I'd like to be a part of the speedrunning community.

To get to the point: I found a few skips, while messing around. Most of them have already been found, but after a few hours of playing around, I found this one:

I think this is a new one.
It does skip getting the Molotov, but as far as I tested it, that doesn't lead to a softlock later on.
If you want advice on how to do it, just look into the video description.

You can't only use this to skip some of the story. You can also use it to get Broadhead Arrows early, but I don't know if that is of any use.
Apart from that, after reaching the first plateau you can jump up the slope to the left and explore further out of bounds. I havent yet found any use for that thogh.
I hope this skip helps, as I put the better half of a day into figuring it out. Grin

MoXxi

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MoXxi: 2016-02-04 10:43:16 am

MoXxi: 2016-02-04 10:35:33 am

2016-02-04 10:34:54 am

Full bear skip, softlock at the end. No ennemies in further areas. You can make it to the shop/watchtower in soviet installation but there isn't any rope to go to the prison :/

@Leemyy Hello! Nice skip. I wonder if it's possible to use it to skip the fight.

lillbrorsan

2016-02-04 11:29:11 am

Truljin @ Twitch

Quote from MoXxi:

Ok so two skips in this video (Prophet's Tomb). The first one is an alternative skip to the AX climb you do to get out of the water. The second one is new I think. It saves something like 5 seconds. The jump is really easy, that's just 5 free secs

@MrTau No I really don't know :/ But if you wait like 4s, Jonah starts to speak. I never had a crash after that. But I haven't tried that much to wait. So it may have been just luck...
Which part do you find harder in this route ? I forgot to show keyboard on screen, maybe I can help here

That is so easy it's ridiculous Cheesy

Have some new stuff to practice for my runs tomorrow, hype!

Leemyy

2016-02-04 12:38:44 pm

Is there any video of an Any% run, that is mostly up to date ?
I have been looking for some and all I could really find was Glitchless Any% videos and most of them were rather old.

The main reason I am asking is so that I have an overview of the run. I think I know most strats (I watched most of the glitch videos I could find) but I don't want to miss out on anything.

SamuraiBlue

2016-02-04 12:50:52 pm

Thanks to Artistic, I've realized it was possible to escape from the gulag cell even on X360, don't know about X1 (Brass, if you want to check).
The 3 clips (window, gate and then wall) are done using double aim back method. Don't forget to reload after the cutscene so that you can get your scramble back.
After that, gulag gate skip, rifle, the usuals...

Here are 2 small but easy time saves that might help in Soviet Installation.

MoXxi

2016-02-04 01:33:17 pm

You should take a look at this thread : http://www.speedrun.com/Rise_of_the_Tomb_Raider/thread/mqo67

It's mostly about the difficulty that you should use to run the game. For the speedrun.com leaderboards. If you have any opinion on it.

SamuraiBlue

2016-02-04 02:13:53 pm

I just succeed in clipping the 2nd door at Atlas skip, but the next area just doesn't load like it used to before patch 3.
You have to take the Atlas before going for the clip to make the next area to load.
Anyway, the door is so long to clip now that it looks more like a time loss, but who knows, maybe someone will find something consistant.

lillbrorsan

2016-02-04 02:22:11 pm

Truljin @ Twitch

On PC I just tend to get the Atlas, clip the first door and wait until the roof explodes and they cut the 2nd one.

Eydas

2016-02-04 02:45:44 pm

@SamuraiBlue Sad to hear research base OOB doesn't work on 360 Sad

@MoXxi I remember Corwey had an alternative way of getting to the prison but I can't seem to find the video. Anyways we should probably try to find OOBs to get to the prison and maybe then a full bear skip is possible.

@Leemyy Awesome skip. Getting climbing arrows early indeed doesn't seem to have a use, but you can try this: get climbing arrows and use them to climb the wall nearby. On top there's a door which at least on PC is clippable. I don't know if everything would be loaded when you get through but it's worth a try.

MoXxi

2016-02-04 02:50:00 pm

@Eydas That would be awesome!

In the meantime : new route for the regular bear skip.
Should be close to 10s faster than the current route.

Leemyy

2016-02-04 04:09:22 pm

@MoXxi Nice work, it may not be huge, but I always felt like people are not investigating established strats enough.

@Eydas I didn't think of that. Gonna try that, and some other ideas I had tomorrow.

SamuraiBlue

2016-02-04 04:10:16 pm

@lillbrorsan yea that's the way we do it too since patch 3 on X360. But patch 1 allowed us to avoid getting the Atlas plus skipping the two doors.

I've found a way to do the Full Bear Skip but it's slightly different. Effects are quite the same as described by MoXxi: No ennemy until prison, there is a rope but the cutscene doesn't load once Lara lands (she can't move either).

And I like those free time saves in Syria and Bear skip route. Smiley

Eydas

2016-02-04 04:35:50 pm

Breaking into prison is surprisingly easy:

I tried this with full bear skip but the cutscene still won't trigger. Sad

brassmaster

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brassmaster: 2016-02-04 05:15:21 pm

2016-02-04 05:14:37 pm

I tested the prison escape and I can't get it on XBO Sad

alternate bear route - I had updated the route, but MoXxi still has it by a few seconds, and I'll take all the seconds I can get Cheesy

most updated run - got a new record with updated stuff. Not the best of runs, but new record with new strats at least http://www.twitch.tv/brsmstr/v/40537905

Full bear skip - I had tweeted about this but never posted because of the triggers I found that are needed (I know, I really should have posted it). You can AX pump up there to skip the bear, but the game is waiting for you to encounter the bear, then you need to meet Sonja, then the cutscene after the pistol room (pistol isnt needed, but will softlock the game at the shotgun cutscene), then you can get into the prison area after the shack.

Leemyy

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Leemyy: 2016-02-05 01:42:35 am

2016-02-05 01:36:14 am

I just looked into getting climbing arrows and then clipping the door as @Eydas has suggested.
It works fine and has the added bonuses, that you don't have to make that last, tricky jump and that most of the enemies, that are normally there don't seem to spawn.
Overall I think it can potentially save about 10-20 secs over my previous route. I have yet to try it under proper conditions, though.

@brassmaster that part where she refuses to move at 29:10 is hilarious XD

lillbrorsan

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lillbrorsan: 2016-02-05 11:19:39 am

lillbrorsan: 2016-02-05 08:26:57 am

2016-02-05 06:30:10 am

Truljin @ Twitch

Just got my first run of the day be sub 2 hours, currently at 1:58:44, will post a video later on.

Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/truljin/v/40759124
Youtube:
Still a bad run, can save at least 4 more minutes, will try again tomorrow.

TheArtisticBallistic

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TheArtisticBallistic: 2016-02-05 09:39:59 am

2016-02-05 09:39:46 am

Gj Truljin

Also when you skip the knife you can play the game to the very end but during the final boss Lara can't axe him.

Plus is it normal that enemies start to randomly dissapear towards the end of a run?