Resident Evil 5 (1:10:29 by Mat-Trix)

2010-08-04 03:39:26 am

Quote from Mat-Trix:

Hey,
I've never tried to run through Desperate Escape, just made 2 or 3 point-based runs on pro mode (kill as many as possible and all). So I have no idea if there are things to improve. But I might give it a try when I have the time for it.

As it all started with Lost In Nightmares, I was willing to do a pure Time Attack but couldnt find anyone interested in that. They all wanted to go for the point-based runs for the Leaderboards.
I had some strategies for the Mansion but couldnt test them to see the result. And of course I couldnt think about any better tactics then.
I think LiN would be more interesting for a Speedrun, cause the Mansion offers various tactics.

With the old RE5 game, you could indeed delete the updates, install the game again and stay offline, so the patch wont be installed. Then the glitches would work again.
But would it be allowed to use a Glitch, that most people cant use ?

One guy asked me about an out of bounds glitch at chapter 5-2 he heard of, but I've never heard of that before and wasnt looking for any new glitches in ages.
Anyone here knows something about that oob glitch ?

And yea, I'd like to see any run up on SDA, no matter if its a new record. Any IL table would be fine, so its possible to improve it chapter by chapter.

I would like to know more about that 5-2 glitch! Never heard of it myself, maybe its like that mysterious 6-3 glitch. With the patch maybe only splitscreen can be without the patch, but online co-op board would have to use it. I guess it can make for an even greater difference between split screen and online. This can warrant having both methods of play, since they will be slightly different. I'm thinking without the fire glitch perhaps split screen will be overall faster(before the Ndesu phase 2 skip gave online the advantage). I'm guessing solo will have to be done without the patch and I'm sure its not a issue to do that. To be honest, I have no concrete plans to actually produce a run since mercs can be very addictive and take up any time we have. I will try to see if he is up to it, and I have been "trying" to do some sort of run for the past year. Obviously it is not working.

[quote="Mat-Trix"]
Hey,
I've never tried to run through Desperate Escape, just made 2 or 3 point-based runs on pro mode (kill as many as possible and all). So I have no idea if there are things to improve. But I might give it a try when I have the time for it.

As it all started with Lost In Nightmares, I was willing to do a pure Time Attack but couldnt find anyone interested in that. They all wanted to go for the point-based runs for the Leaderboards.
I had some strategies for the Mansion but couldnt test them to see the result. And of course I couldnt think about any better tactics then.
I think LiN would be more interesting for a Speedrun, cause the Mansion offers various tactics.

With the old RE5 game, you could indeed delete the updates, install the game again and stay offline, so the patch wont be installed. Then the glitches would work again.
But would it be allowed to use a Glitch, that most people cant use ?

One guy asked me about an out of bounds glitch at chapter 5-2 he heard of, but I've never heard of that before and wasnt looking for any new glitches in ages.
Anyone here knows something about that oob glitch ?

And yea, I'd like to see any run up on SDA, no matter if its a new record. Any IL table would be fine, so its possible to improve it chapter by chapter.
[/quote]I would like to know more about that 5-2 glitch! Never heard of it myself, maybe its like that mysterious 6-3 glitch. With the patch maybe only splitscreen can be without the patch, but online co-op board would have to use it. I guess it can make for an even greater difference between split screen and online. This can warrant having both methods of play, since they will be slightly different. I'm thinking without the fire glitch perhaps split screen will be overall faster(before the Ndesu phase 2 skip gave online the advantage). I'm guessing solo will have to be done without the patch and I'm sure its not a issue to do that. To be honest, I have no concrete plans to actually produce a run since mercs can be very addictive and take up any time we have. I will try to see if he is up to it, and I have been "trying" to do some sort of run for the past year. Obviously it is not working.

sportlov

2010-08-04 06:29:15 am

I haven't read the topic, nor am I very familiar with the game. Anyhow, if 5-2 is the area with the Reaper enemies there's a horizontal lift thingie which needs power to work. Well, if you have your partner manouver the lift and you go stand right between the lift and the static part of the floor the lift will move away from you and you can run around in thin air. This is probably old news, but since you were discussing a 5-2 OoB glitch I thought I might throw it in there.

Don't mind me if this is old news.

JohnnyKevlar

2010-08-04 06:42:28 am

Quote from sportlov:

I haven't read the topic, nor am I very familiar with the game. Anyhow, if 5-2 is the area with the Reaper enemies there's a horizontal lift thingie which needs power to work. Well, if you have your partner manouver the lift and you go stand right between the lift and the static part of the floor the lift will move away from you and you can run around in thin air. This is probably old news, but since you were discussing a 5-2 OoB glitch I thought I might throw it in there.

Don't mind me if this is old news.

Hey, I'm pretty positive majority of the runners I know didn't know about that. Can you show a example of this and the potential of it? I can't play co-op to test it myself. Mat or Jun..get on that!

sportlov

2010-08-04 07:44:03 am

I never really explored it, I just ran over to the other side since I've only completed the game once. Although I'm not very surprised it works considering the game-mechanics. It's most likely as simple as that you're standing outside of the static floors perimeter, but not far enough into the lifts to be dragged along.
I'm not sure of whether it's useful at all, but since I only borrowed the game when I played through, I can't see if there would happen to be anywhere else you could apply a similiar technique.

JohnnyKevlar

2010-08-04 11:57:41 am

Quote from sportlov:

I never really explored it, I just ran over to the other side since I've only completed the game once. Although I'm not very surprised it works considering the game-mechanics. It's most likely as simple as that you're standing outside of the static floors perimeter, but not far enough into the lifts to be dragged along.
I'm not sure of whether it's useful at all, but since I only borrowed the game when I played through, I can't see if there would happen to be anywhere else you could apply a similiar technique.

Well, if you can run across then possibly the second player could run instead of waiting for the lift and maybe cut across or something. The first player wouldn't have to wait. That is if it works how I imagine. 5-3 co-op might be able to get under 7 minutes.

Mat-Trix

2010-08-04 03:14:46 pm

As Johnny allready noticed, the horizontal lift thingy your talking about is in chapter 5-3, not in 5-2.
Sure its still worth a try, if you are able to run in the air and reach the other side. BUT that wouldnt save time, cause you still have to wait for the lift to reach the end, till you are able to send it back.
Actually it would only save time, when the second player could use that glitch.

Anyways, thats not the oob glitch of 5-2 that guy was talking about. i dont have any other informations about it.
He just said, that some others told him that there is an oob glitch but didnt tell him where (typical leaderboard players). that could also mean, that they might gave him a fake information to keep theyr precious rank, I dont know.

Thanks for the information about the glitch of 5-3, i might check it out someday and let you guys know if its anything usefull.

Again, if someone heard anything about a glitch at 5-2, I'd love to know about it.

sportlov

2010-08-04 04:37:45 pm

I'm sorry I couldn't be of any help. If there are similiar situations, even though I don't recall any right now, you might want to see whether or not it's possible to break the invisible walls that surround everything in this game.

Come to think of it I believe that some of the cargo crates on the last chapters are movable objects. I don't have the game myself, but maybe you could give it a shot. You never know when you find something usable, and look at Resident Evil 4, it had the exact same problem as well. As soon as you're outside of the boundries of what the game expects you to be, you can do virtually anything. The biggest problem in this game of course being you most likely need to be able to replicate it for both characters.

In either case, I bid you good luck with finding any interesting glitches.

Mat-Trix

2010-08-05 04:34:40 am

you actually did help. everything might be helpfull.
just wanted to clearify, that i wa stalking about another chapter.
but of course every information about any chapter is welcome Smiley

JohnnyKevlar

Edit history:

JohnnyKevlar: 2010-08-26 05:46:58 am

2010-08-26 01:15:10 am

Me and darkcornsyrup got 2:21 on 5-1...they reckon or claim that him and diesel got 2:20 and I kinda believe him. They aren't really sure what their best time was. I recorded the 2:21 will edit this post with the video..been real lazy about editing it.

JunRena

2010-09-22 02:28:51 am

Hello Matt ! Cheesy

i could find the video(the another way of 2nd extra enemy killing of LiN) and watched it.
i surely think that method to be easy, although time loss occurs for about 1 minute.
For my opinion, there is the merit to be able to choose the best pattern of the normal enemy placement when climbed the upper floor,
but i think that is not best method, that it is "better" method.
Even my skill, wait and run, throw a flame-renade, and shoot two magnums to back eyes, this way's success rate are over 50%,
i think this is a best method. Wink

Liebo

2011-02-21 02:33:34 pm

Sorry for digging up an old post but I've run through this via Co-op and got about 1:40:xx

My friend is currently 689th on the XBOX version Leaderboards but I am still showing 140,000ish with my original time playing with AI.

We have exactly the same time so should appear together or close enough.

Is there any reason for this or a way to reflect my current time on the leaderboard?

Mat-Trix

2011-03-03 08:07:14 pm

Sounds strange,
Did you check the correct difficulty at the leaderboards ?
It also is possible that a problem occured in the moment when you send your result to the server. In that case you would have the time in your stats but not at the servers. That happened to some people before and there is no way to fix it unless you play the chapter again.
But that dosnt explain why the whole game finish time seem to be corrupted.
Only other reason I can think of is that youve played the chapters on different difficulties, so there is no low total time for you.
If you really have all the low times in your stats but not at the leaderboards, theres no way but to do it again.

I am back to RE5 since some weeks and did some new runs. I will update the first post of this thread soon, so you guys can have a look if interested.
Both points of view are available and we could come up with 2 new best times. Its chapter 4-1 improved by 1 second and 3-2 which now is played without the Fire Glitch. Far as I know we could beat the old time under that non-glitch-conditions by 3 seconds.
Not sure if I will make more chapters, Ill keep you updated.

Im also working on a run through the extra mode "lost in nightmares" and have a run online with a finish time of 6:48 but we could improve that by another 3 seconds (no video available).
There are more ideas to shave off a little more and Ill make a new video of it soon.
There will be a glitch involved to start the game with more weapons. That one is pretty similiar to a glitch in donkey kong 64 so Mike said it would be allright to use it. Its not effecting the timer during the run.
Sadly Im not sure if I will be able to submit the run because my partner uses a Cam and I dont know if he will get any capture device in the future. Cause videos shot by cam wont be accepted by SDA, I will make a run of LIN for youtube for now and post a link here when its done.
Hopefully I can make it again, as soon as my partner has a capture device and submit it then.

Ill put the LIN link to the list of best chapter times on the first post too.

Sounds strange, 
Did you check the correct difficulty at the leaderboards ?
It also is possible that a problem occured in the moment when you send your result to the server. In that case you would have the time in your stats but not at the servers. That happened to some people before and there is no way to fix it unless you play the chapter again.
But that dosnt explain why the whole game finish time seem to be corrupted.
Only other reason I can think of is that youve played the chapters on different difficulties, so there is no low total time for you.
If you really have all the low times in your stats but not at the leaderboards, theres no way but to do it again.

I am back to RE5 since some weeks and did some new runs. I will update the first post of this thread soon, so you guys can have a look if interested.
Both points of view are available and we could come up with 2 new best times. Its chapter 4-1 improved by 1 second and 3-2 which now is played without the Fire Glitch. Far as I know we could beat the old time under that non-glitch-conditions by 3 seconds.
Not sure if I will make more chapters, Ill keep you updated.

Im also working on a run through the extra mode "lost in nightmares" and have a run online with a finish time of 6:48 but we could improve that by another 3 seconds (no video available).
There are more ideas to shave off a little more and Ill make a new video of it soon.
There will be a glitch involved to start the game with more weapons. That one is pretty similiar to a glitch in donkey kong 64 so Mike said it would be allright to use it. Its not effecting the timer during the run.
Sadly Im not sure if I will be able to submit the run because my partner uses a Cam and I dont know if he will get any capture device in the future. Cause videos shot by cam wont be accepted by SDA, I will make a run of LIN for youtube for now and post a link here when its done.
Hopefully I can make it again, as soon as my partner has a capture device and submit it then.

Ill put the LIN link to the list of best chapter times on the first post too.

Liebo

2011-03-05 01:55:10 pm

Thanks for the reply Mat-Trix.

I've completed the game on all difficulties, I feature on the "Normal" and the "Amateur" leader boards but not with the "true" completion times however my friend does and we played it last time through together.

Its been a few weeks now and I've been replaying whole chapters trying to force it to submit a new "completion" time. My friend with the exact same "best" completion time is now 691 so someone has got a faster time than us pushing him down, his time has reflected but not mine.

Can't wait to see LIN speed run Smiley

Mat-Trix

2011-03-06 02:15:49 am

Dont mention it,
Have you tried to run a whole chapter again, like from 2-1 to 2-3 and check the leaderboards for chapter 2 after that ?
If it will save your time for that chapter, it might do it for the whole game aswell (after running it again).
It might also be interesting if you have any of those complete chapter times on the server allready or is every single chapter time way too low too ?

The Lost in Nightmares run is done now. we could improve many small things which let us beat our old video by 11 seconds, so its down to 6:37mins now. Since shevas POV is recorded with a cam only (not as bad as some other cam vids) its gonna be on youtube only for now.
The weapon glitch I was talking about is in it but it dosnt save much time but alot of nerves.
Its way too annoying to start abusing the restart option over and over again till you find a grenade, just to fail at the following attempt and start it all over again, so the glitch was helpfull to get this run done.

No idea whats coming next but I might redo some other chapters soon.

Link to the new LIN run:

Dont mention it,
Have you tried to run a whole chapter again, like from 2-1 to 2-3 and check the leaderboards for chapter 2 after that ?
If it will save your time for that chapter, it might do it for the whole game aswell (after running it again).
It might also be interesting if you have any of those complete chapter times on the server allready or is every single chapter time way too low too ?

The Lost in Nightmares run is done now. we could improve many small things which let us beat our old video by 11 seconds, so its down to 6:37mins now. Since shevas POV is recorded with a cam only (not as bad as some other cam vids) its gonna be on youtube only for now.
The weapon glitch I was talking about is in it but it dosnt save much time but alot of nerves.
Its way too annoying to start abusing the restart option over and over again till you find a grenade, just to fail at the following attempt and start it all over again, so the glitch was helpfull to get this run done.

No idea whats coming next but I might redo some other chapters soon.

Link to the new LIN run:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZE-42wDrB4[/url]

Liebo

2011-03-06 03:21:59 am

I've played all of chapter 1 through and it mad no difference to my leaderboard position Sad

I'm going to check out your link shortly Smiley

Liebo

2011-03-06 10:34:39 am

Just checked your LIN video. I like how you left Jill trapped then restarted the check point to get her out Smiley

Still don't fully understand the weapons glitch though but no need to explain in detail here.

Mat-Trix

2011-03-06 12:55:19 pm

You talking about the full game completion time or just the time fpr chapter 1 ?
I have absolutely no idea whats going wrong there, sorry but I think I cant help you out with that problem.
Maybe you should try to sent a mail to the support.

About the Weapon Glitch:
In the LIN Video is a link to show how the glitch is done, but I will post it here too, just in case.
Thing is that we go to the Checkpoint where Jill grabs the emblem after playing the piano. Right in that moment, when she grabs it, a checkpoint will be activated. Now I restart the game as soon as she is about to take the emblem. That way I dont see any checkpoint coming up and the game puts me back to the start of the chapter without any extra time, just like you use the restart option in any other moment of the game.
But the Jill player can actually see the word "checkpoint" coming up on his screen and thats the moment when the game saves everything that happened so far.
That way he will keep everything he found untill that checkpoint but is forced to come back with the host player to the beginning of the game (cause the checkpoint wasnt there for him yet).
Now we crushed the vases untill we found a grenade, then took the machine gun and did that restart-checkpoint-glitch. Then repeat till we found another grenade and a flash grenade and used that glitch again.
Thats how Jill can start with an extra gun and the grenades.
And thats why it looks weird on my screen sometimes, like when Jill runs around with a can of first aid spray, but its actually the flash grenade. I just cant see it cause the game didnt save those weapons on my side.

LIN Videos:

Chris POV
Jills POV
Glitch Demonstration

You talking about the full game completion time or just the time fpr chapter 1 ?
I have absolutely no idea whats going wrong there, sorry but I think I cant help you out with that problem.
Maybe you should try to sent a mail to the support.

About the Weapon Glitch:
In the LIN Video is a link to show how the glitch is done, but I will post it here too, just in case.
Thing is that we go to the Checkpoint where Jill grabs the emblem after playing the piano. Right in that moment, when she grabs it, a checkpoint will be activated. Now I restart the game as soon as she is about to take the emblem. That way I dont see any checkpoint coming up and the game puts me back to the start of the chapter without any extra time, just like you use the restart option in any other moment of the game.
But the Jill player can actually see the word "checkpoint" coming up on his screen and thats the moment when the game saves everything that happened so far.
That way he will keep everything he found untill that checkpoint but is forced to come back with the host player to the beginning of the game (cause the checkpoint wasnt there for him yet).
Now we crushed the vases untill we found a grenade, then took the machine gun and did that restart-checkpoint-glitch. Then repeat till we found another grenade and a flash grenade and used that glitch again.
Thats how Jill can start with an extra gun and the grenades.
And thats why it looks weird on my screen sometimes, like when Jill runs around with a can of first aid spray, but its actually the flash grenade. I just cant see it cause the game didnt save those weapons on my side.

LIN Videos:

Chris POV  [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZE-42wDrB4[/url]
Jills POV  [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yjafdmGekU[/url]
Glitch Demonstration [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVtil31rzdM[/url]

Liebo

2011-03-06 02:57:13 pm

I'm talking about any of my times. In fact, back when the game came out, I finished chapter 1 in 50:52 but that score still shows on the leaderboard even though I've completed it many many times since then with a much lower time.

I don't seem to appear correctly on the leaderboards for any chapter/all chapters Sad

Liebo

2011-03-11 03:32:50 pm

Sorted it. Had to play with "XBOX Live" enabled then at the end of a chapter, I showed "Submitting" then after that I appeared in the leadeboards correctly. 694 or something like that Smiley

Liebo

2011-03-28 01:39:26 pm

So yeah, I've put a blank hard drive in an loaded up the game with no patches etc

How do I go about performing the flame/fire glitch in 3-2 on an XBOX 360? I've trawled 80 or so pages but only reference I saw was that it was patched already and the glitchless run being posted... Sad

Pwnlazy

2011-06-22 10:40:43 am

still no re5 speedrun up...uh well...

greets Wink

Traximus

2011-09-22 01:54:26 am

:)

IS this run coming up at all? Smiley

puntja2

2011-09-22 07:30:23 am

hey everyone

i just bought re5 again

i've owened the US version, but sold it
now i got the German version, and my US savegames are not compatible Sad

can someone give me some weapons/items (eggs etc) on psn? i would really appreciate it!

psn id is puntja

Carcinogen

2011-09-22 08:13:55 am

It's probably never going to happen at this rate. All the leaderboard whores took their strats with them when they quit the game and nobody recorded any videos though they very well could.

Taking all that time to shave off every last millisecond and not recording videos is like jacking off. You accomplish nothing.

dead_horse

(user is banned)

2011-10-01 05:25:55 pm

i was planning to speedrun re5 myself but i never got to it, i've been too interested in trying to improve my times on re4