Regarding Future Video Uploads

UraniumAnchor

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UraniumAnchor: 2015-07-18 01:03:54 pm

2015-07-18 12:58:16 pm

Not a walrus

We have noticed over several Games Done Quick marathons that speedrunners who dedicate their time and efforts to attend and run games at the marathon end up unable to properly showcase their runs on video channels such as YouTube. This is due to viewers recording and uploading runs while the runners are at our marathons.

In the interest of protecting both our brand and our runners, we will no longer allow any reupload of any Games Done Quick content from Summer Games Done Quick 2015 onward, regardless of monetization settings.

Runners will still be able to upload their own runs. They are also allowed to monetize, though Games Done Quick currently has no plans to monetize the official uploads. For now, any ads you see are results of content matches.

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FearfulFerret

2015-07-18 01:31:09 pm

Two questions:

1: What is the best way for GDQ runners to get the video files for their own runs? Will you guys provide a download?

2: Can runners monetize their runs on their personal YouTube channels?

frod93

2015-07-18 01:36:45 pm

Will videos still be uploaded to the official youtube channel? (I assume this is the official Games Done Quick channel, right?)

Cool Matty

2015-07-18 02:25:44 pm

Crawlathon WR, get down on my level.

Quote from frod93:

Will videos still be uploaded to the official youtube channel? (I assume this is the official Games Done Quick channel, right?)

Yes and yes.

zeronoin

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zeronoin: 2015-07-18 02:58:34 pm

2015-07-18 02:58:08 pm

Perhaps it should be mentioned in this announcement that GDQ will be working hard to get videos of runs uploaded on GDQ's official account(s) asap so those will quickly be available to share. (At least that's what I understand is happening.)

epiktistes

2015-07-18 04:47:32 pm

Will the footage between the runs be preserved and uploaded as well? I'm studying the GDQs in my dissertation and large parts of my research depend on having the entire streams of the events, not just the runs themselves—there's lots of donations, conversation, GDQ monitor stuff, etc. happening in between.

Possibly just "start" each video from the setup for that particular game, then timestamp it to the exact start of the countdown for easier viewing, then leave it running until setup for the next game?

Thanks for all the hard work in getting and keeping everything archived!

TheMG2

2015-07-18 06:59:57 pm

It is already the case that time between runs will be uploaded.

UraniumAnchor

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2015-07-18 07:21:42 pm

Not a walrus

Just to clarify, what we plan on doing for the local recordings is to split them at the end of each run during setup, and then for initial, immediate uploading (as in during the event, ideally), put them on the YouTube channel as provisional videos. Some of them will end up being the permanent copies if they don't need to be fixed up in some way. These should have most or all of the footage between runs intact for reasons mentioned above.

The archive.org videos will be done as they always have in the past. It only took me about 3 weeks after getting back from AGDQ to have them all uploaded, so I hope to maintain roughly the same time frame in the future.

blha303

2015-07-25 05:24:38 am

(I'm suudo on reddit, the VOD thread guy for the last two events)

That's pretty sweet, I'll be able to add them to the VOD thread straight away. This is a way better option than what we had before. Cheers UA Smiley

Mooga

2015-07-25 06:48:26 pm

...w00t?

If footage can be uploaded to YouTube shortly after the runs, that would be fantastic.
Is that the only official channel? In the past, the unofficial channels would get the video out much faster than the official channels.
Keep up the hard work!

P.S. It would make sense to put this notice on the Twitch page.

ymh

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ymh: 2015-07-26 04:40:22 am

2015-07-26 04:39:45 am

^
This https://www.youtube.com/user/gamesdonequick/
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before https://www.youtube.com/user/SpeedDemosArchiveSDA

So I guess marathon footage will only be uploaded to the first channel ?

Sir VG

2015-07-26 05:34:30 am

Fucking Weeaboo

Correct. The 2nd is now an unofficial channel. The first one is the official Games Done Quick channel.

ymh

2015-07-26 11:58:07 am

Will there be any more uploads of runs submitted to the site onto Youtube then?

Sir VG

2015-07-26 01:47:01 pm

Fucking Weeaboo

Probably not. The channel hasn't been update in a year and a half (AGDQ 2014). Just stay tuned to here for awesome runs.

Mooga

2015-07-26 11:52:08 pm

...w00t?

I'm already seeing video show up on https://www.youtube.com/user/gamesdonequick
Well done!

Habreno

2015-07-27 12:48:00 am

Likewise also seeing them on GDQ, but also seeing them on SpeedMarathonArchive.

Cool Matty

2015-07-27 02:18:06 pm

Crawlathon WR, get down on my level.

Quote from Habreno:

Likewise also seeing them on GDQ, but also seeing them on SpeedMarathonArchive.

The latter is posting them without our permission, we're working on it.

JLohman711

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JLohman711: 2015-07-29 06:17:56 am

2015-07-28 01:37:38 am

I'm seeing a number of youtube channels with unauthorized videos of SGDQ runs. I assume this is being handled?

Specifically:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN92rEgXaiArthIMwincl8g
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsS8LJC382KpuNBsL1nXt_w
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOWDU-iokgQTudah5-4kAIQ

Giggapuff

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Giggapuff: 2015-07-28 08:16:16 pm

2015-07-28 08:00:23 pm

Just want to know, besides the contriversal Crash 2 speedrun, will any of the runs be missing from the official GDQ channel?

Just wondering as certain streams are missing, such as the Big the Cat story (Sonic Adventure DX), Resident Evil 4 and Silent Hill 2, and this is my first time watching a GDQ

UraniumAnchor

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UraniumAnchor: 2015-07-30 01:12:52 pm

2015-07-30 01:12:11 pm

Not a walrus

Quote from JLohman711:

I'm seeing a number of youtube channels with unauthorized videos of SGDQ runs. I assume this is being handled?

Specifically:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN92rEgXaiArthIMwincl8g
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsS8LJC382KpuNBsL1nXt_w
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOWDU-iokgQTudah5-4kAIQ

We're contacting either the channels themselves or YouTube to get these removed, yes. Thank you for the report.

Quote from Giggapuff:

Just want to know, besides the contriversal Crash 2 speedrun, will any of the runs be missing from the official GDQ channel?

Just wondering as certain streams are missing, such as the Big the Cat story (Sonic Adventure DX), Resident Evil 4 and Silent Hill 2, and this is my first time watching a GDQ

If any runs from the middle are missing that probably means we'll have to use the stream footage to upload a copy and we will not have time until after the event. Apologies.

EmptyHero

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EmptyHero: 2015-07-31 07:12:11 am

2015-07-31 06:57:48 am

So basically you are fragmenting the community's ability to attract new people to speed running and GDQ events alike for absolutely no plausible reason other than increasing your channels' potential revenue generation, great idea.

I have to say, this is the first time in a very long while that I create an account just to point out how stupid something is on a forum; do you seriously think that doing this is benefiting the runners' ability to "properly showcase their runs" just because other people tend to record them and upload them faster than your crack team of video experts? This is bologna and you know it, you only want to keep things tied to your accounts for inflated views and possible monetization (if it's not already enabled) down the line.

Personally, as an avid fan of speedrunning and as someone who has watched the last 4 years of GDQ and have donated x amount of dollars every event, I got enthralled in watching speedrunning by (lo and behold) a goddamn channel that has no affiliation with any official GDQ or SDA people.

I know that this post will almost definitely have no effect on your decision and by my guesses will also be deleted, but you should think twice about how this will look to your community as the people who run it (no pun intended) almost always come off as uptight d-heads, save for Romscout in my opinion.

Shame on you.

So basically you are fragmenting the community's ability to attract new people to speed running and GDQ events alike for absolutely no plausible reason other than increasing your channels' potential revenue generation, great idea.

I have to say, this is the first time in a very long while that I create an account just to point out how stupid something is on a forum; do you seriously think that doing this is benefiting the runners' ability to "properly showcase their runs" just because other people tend to record them and upload them faster than your crack team of video experts? This is bologna and you know it, you only want to keep things tied to your accounts for inflated views and possible monetization (if it's not already enabled) down the line.

Personally, as an avid fan of speedrunning and as someone who has watched the last 4 years of GDQ and have donated x amount of dollars every event, I got enthralled in watching speedrunning by (lo and behold) a goddamn channel that has no affiliation with any official GDQ or SDA people.

I know that this post will almost definitely have no effect on your decision and by my guesses will also be deleted, but you should think twice about how this will look to your community as the people who run it (no pun intended) almost always come off as uptight d-heads, save for Romscout in my opinion.

Shame on you.

nate

2015-07-31 07:57:22 am

it's good to think about others' motivation.

in this case i think you may be mistaken. several times you mention monetization. gdq is not for profit, both in the legal and ethical senses. gdq's purpose is to come together for charity. people donate their time/money. people expect that their time/money goes to the charity. pirate channels take that away. that's what this is about.

the other concern - about limiting publicity - i think is more complex. it's hard to say whether you would have found the marathons if not for the pirate channel. was the pirate channel just taking away search ranking from the official channel (which in the past was not maintained as well as now)? understand - i'm not playing devil's advocate. the question is real. everyone is always open to suggestions and people pitching in, especially when it comes to promotion. if gdq is going to actively shut down pirate channels then there is the expectation that the real channel be better maintained. i think that's exactly what's going on now.

it's good to think about others' motivation.

in this case i think you may be mistaken. several times you mention monetization. gdq is not for profit, both in the legal and ethical senses. gdq's purpose is to come together for charity. people donate their time/money. people expect that their time/money goes to the charity. pirate channels take that away. that's what this is about.

the other concern - about limiting publicity - i think is more complex. it's hard to say whether you would have found the marathons if not for the pirate channel. was the pirate channel just taking away search ranking from the official channel (which in the past was not maintained as well as now)? understand - i'm not playing devil's advocate. the question is real. everyone is always open to suggestions and people pitching in, especially when it comes to promotion. if gdq is going to actively shut down pirate channels then there is the expectation that the real channel be better maintained. i think that's exactly what's going on now.

T-Rissy

2015-07-31 08:11:08 am

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do you seriously think that doing this is benefiting the runners' ability to "properly showcase their runs" just because other people tend to record them and upload them faster than your crack team of video experts? This is bologna and you know it, you only want to keep things tied to your accounts for inflated views and possible monetization (if it's not already enabled) down the line.

Personally, as an avid fan of speedrunning and as someone who has watched the last 4 years of GDQ and have donated x amount of dollars every event, I got enthralled in watching speedrunning by (lo and behold) a goddamn channel that has no affiliation with any official GDQ or SDA people.

I'm sorry but considering that they are a charity then I think its totally messed up of other channels trying to use their event for money anyway, if they do monetize then good they deserve the extra money that should be going to the charity as intended. Also have you considered that the people who put years of effort into running these events should have exclusive rights to this content? The other channels are (in my opinion) just vultures trying to profit off of other peoples hard work and are essentially stealing from a charity.

Not only that but the GDQ has consent from the speed runners and everyone else on stream to use their image, voice and gameplay. The other channels uploading the run do not have consent from runners and that is a huge issue. most of them probably wont mind but if even one person does then that is a huge problem as the GDQ is responsible for the video's and ensuring the security and privacy of everyone at the event. The other channels undermining peoples consent is making the GDQ liable and potentially ruining the event for everyone.

Honestly i think this is a very reasonable and wise decision that I hope most people will understand

[quote]do you seriously think that doing this is benefiting the runners' ability to "properly showcase their runs" just because other people tend to record them and upload them faster than your crack team of video experts? This is bologna and you know it, you only want to keep things tied to your accounts for inflated views and possible monetization (if it's not already enabled) down the line.

Personally, as an avid fan of speedrunning and as someone who has watched the last 4 years of GDQ and have donated x amount of dollars every event, I got enthralled in watching speedrunning by (lo and behold) a goddamn channel that has no affiliation with any official GDQ or SDA people.[/quote]

I'm sorry but considering that they are a charity then I think its totally messed up of other channels trying to use their event for money anyway, if they do monetize then good they deserve the extra money that should be going to the charity as intended. Also have you considered that the people who put years of effort into running these events should have exclusive rights to this content? The other channels are (in my opinion) just vultures trying to profit off of other peoples hard work and are essentially stealing from a charity.

Not only that but the GDQ has consent from the speed runners and everyone else on stream to use their image, voice and gameplay.  The other channels uploading the run do not have consent from runners and that is a huge issue. most of them probably wont mind but if even one person does then that is a huge problem as the GDQ is responsible for the video's and ensuring the security and privacy of everyone at the event. The other channels undermining peoples consent is making the GDQ liable and potentially ruining the event for everyone.

Honestly i think this is a very reasonable and wise decision that I hope most people will understand

TheMG2

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TheMG2: 2015-07-31 08:26:03 am

2015-07-31 08:25:27 am

For the record, they've taken down videos that were monetized in past years. The change here is taking down videos that were not monetized. The point of this change is to allow runners to upload their own runs to youtube after the event without fear of competition (from what I see from the first few posts).

I've seen some complaints about the audio levels on the official youtube channel, you should probably work on making them louder in the future.

AdamAK

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AdamAK: 2015-07-31 08:41:49 am

2015-07-31 08:39:26 am

Totally rad

Quote from T-Rissy:

Not only that but the GDQ has consent from the speed runners and everyone else on stream to use their image, voice and gameplay.

Implicit consent in order to run the marathon stream, sure. Nobody's asked for their consent to upload the stream VoDs with their runs, however. Puts the GDQ Youtube channel in pretty much the same position as the other ones.

I'm not against taking down videos where people try to cash in on others' runs (i.e., monetised uploads by third parties), but I'm not in favour of the currently proposed policy. You're assuming that runners are giving GDQ some kind of exclusive license for the runs, which is not necessarily the case at all.
Doesn't seem like this is your call to make. (Unless the sign-up got changed substantially compared to e.g. AGDQ this year)