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UltimateDarius
2008-03-20 03:37:17 am
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He may be getting Hydro Cannon, although I would think that would take too long to get to be worth it.


In order to get hydro cannon, you have to go thru the islands 1-3 sidequest thing.  Definitely not worth it for this run.  I considered it for the E4R2 run, but there is the recharge issue, so I don't think it would be faster.

Thomaz is on the right track...it's using torrent, but in conjunction with something else.  Again, I'm not going to come right out and say it, but it's one of those forehead slappers if no one gets it until you see it Smiley
petrie911
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petrie911: 2008-03-20 04:51:39 am
2008-03-20 04:51:04 am
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Oh, I see.   You're using Rain Dance in conjunction with Torrent, no?

Either that or you've successfully found a way to use Counter in the run.
UltimateDarius
2008-03-20 05:57:59 am
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Oh, I see.   You're using Rain Dance in conjunction with Torrent, no?


Bingo.
_Cole_
2008-03-30 09:35:55 pm
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I just got 2:45.52 on a segmented run. Didn't record it because it was my first speedrun of this game.


Some of my times at various places:
Coming out of the Cerulean Gym: 0:30
Coming out of the Vermillion Gym: 0:57
Rock Tunnel Entrance: 1:03
Lavender Town Pokemon Center: 1:13
Entering Fuschia Town: 1:39
Coming out of the Cinabar Gym: 1:54
Coming out of the Viridian Gym: 2:19
Indigo Plateau: 2:27
Final Time: 2:45.52

Mistakes:
After the Rocket Hideout I ran to Lavender instead of getting Fly >_> Lost maybe 2 minutes...

I could have gotten Dugtrio faster. It took me ~5 repels. I could have reset until I got it on my first or second. Lost maybe 1 minute.

Didn't teach Blastoise Mega Punch, that might have saved some time (I had Tackle until I got Blizzard :\ )

Didn't get the BlackGlasses. Could have helped in various places.

My Blastoise's nature was Bold (+Def, -Atk). Not a bad nature but a +SpA one might of helped more.

Other than that it was a pretty solid run. If I tried again I might be able to get 2:40.
UltimateDarius
2008-03-31 06:50:41 pm
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I just got 2:45.52 on a segmented run. Didn't record it because it was my first speedrun of this game.

If I tried again I might be able to get 2:40.


Damn it.  I haven't had the time to play lately, but I suspect that my strategy should get sub 2:45, and that's Blastoise only.  I'm a perfectionist though, so I'd really hate to have my run beat, even if it WAS a segmented instead of a SS run Sad
JWise
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JWise: 2008-04-09 03:12:25 am
2008-04-09 03:03:32 am
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Well I've taken some major time off from this game, but I think I'm ready to try to improve my time. Anyone have some new strategies? UD, care to discuss your strategy?

I've decided that Blastoise-only would be the best run idea (so I agree with you UD; I was just too stubborn to see it before). Here's what I'm seeing for a final team.

Blastoise- Surf, Bite, Earthquake/Strength, Ice Beam/Blizzard

Pidgey (caught ASAP)- Fly slave

Diglett- Cut, Dig (for Surge)

Lapras- Surf, Strength? (can Lapras use strength? if not I may pick up a Mankey early on)

Suggestions?
UltimateDarius
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UltimateDarius: 2008-04-09 08:04:34 pm
2008-04-09 08:03:24 pm
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Well I've taken some major time off from this game, but I think I'm ready to try to improve my time. Anyone have some new strategies? UD, care to discuss your strategy?

I've decided that Blastoise-only would be the best run idea (so I agree with you UD; I was just too stubborn to see it before). Here's what I'm seeing for a final team.

Blastoise- Surf, Bite, Earthquake/Strength, Ice Beam/Blizzard

Pidgey (caught ASAP)- Fly slave

Diglett- Cut, Dig (for Surge)

Lapras- Surf, Strength? (can Lapras use strength? if not I may pick up a Mankey early on)

Suggestions?



EDIT:  *singsong voice* I told ya so!

lol.


Yep, I always have suggestions!  Scrap diglett entirely.  You're almost guaranteed going to encounter a wild ratatta on your way to viridian after oak gives you pokeballs, and it can cut.  You should have all of your catching done by the time you enter the forest.  Pidgey for fly, and ratatta for cut.  Lapras does learn strength, and unless you're going to be deleting surf for any reason prior to fighting loreli, don't waste the time teaching lapras surf.

Surge is a minor problem, but easily dealt with.  You'll find a hidden sitrus berry just prior to entering vermillion city.  You're going to equip this to wartortle right before you fight surge.  This allows for one free hit from shockwave that's auto-restored.  If you played your game well, you'll also have your revive from Mt. Moon, and some super potion.  Half the time, you won't even need this, because all you have to do is hit Raichu twice with Mega Punch.  The time it takes you to do this fight is less than the amount of time it'll take you to find, catch, and teach diglett dig...because in of itself, dig takes 2 turns to work ANYWAY.  Bite is useless pretty much except for fighting against slowpokes/bros.

The rest of this assumes you have a special attack beneficial nature, with decent IVs...

Spend about 45 seconds and go east of fuschia (sp) to get the Rain Dance TM.  Teach this ASAP, and use in conjunction with surf.  Also use torrent if you can manage to do so (GREAT segmented run strat!  Also, if someone wants to do this segmented, catch a chansey with a lucky egg and get the boosted exp for half of the run)

Torrented surf 2HKOs Muk, and OHKOs nearly everything else in the rest of the run.

My suggested final moveset is as follows:  Loreli: Blizzard, Rain Dance, Earthquake, and Bite (for her slowbro).  Please note that you would have gone to see the move deleter prior to this fight.  Earthquake is not necessary if you managed to get a female blastoise, because it's not crucial to OHKO Jynx in that instance.  Your choice.  

After Loreli, scrap bite for surf again.  Fighting against agatha, surf alone is slightly more effective than bite, but a torrented rain danced will OHKO even the higher level gengar.  Final final moveset is blizzard (I use 2 PP ups in order to at least partially offset the lack of accuracy), surf, rain dance, and earthquake (mostly for alakazam).

Let me know if I can be of any more help!
JWise
2008-04-09 09:43:48 pm
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Interesting. I hadn't thought of Rattata for cut, and I honestly had not found that Sitrus berry (lol; and I had thought I knew where all of the hidden berries were; where's the Sitrus?)

And I knew I would need a couple of PP Ups for Blizzard, but I only know of one. Where is the second one?
_Cole_
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_Cole_: 2008-04-09 11:28:48 pm
2008-04-09 11:26:26 pm
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What is the point of Rain Dance in the E4 if X Special can also raise Surf by 1.5?

Here's what I did for the E4. I entered with a lv 50 Blastoise.
Moveset: Earthquake, Brick Break, Surf, Blizzard

Loreli: Used 4 or 5 X Attacks and 1 X Speed while fighting Dewgong. Easy sweep from there with Brick Break and EQ.

Bruno: 1 Guard Spec to stop Onix's Rock Tomb. Used some X Specials. Onix has Roar so I didn't use a lot of them. Ended up sweeping with something like 3 X Specials, 1 X Speed, and the Torrent boost.

Agatha: I found a Lum berry somewhere which helped against Gengar. I forget how this battle went down. I'm pretty sure I got lucky here...

Lance: Used X Specials, a X Speed, and a X Accuracy while fighting Gyarados.

After this I used a Max Ether on Blizzard (from Rock Tunnel)

Rival: Guard Spec to stop Sand Attack. Used 2 X Specials, 1 X Speed, 1 X Accuaracy while fighting Pidgeot. Used another X Special when Venusaur started to take in sunlight.

I'm pretty sure both Surf and Blizzard ended with 0 PP (didn't use any PP Ups).

I also thought of that Chansey strategy. Seems like it would be really frustrating to do though Sad I'll try more Torrent abuse if I speedrun this again.
UltimateDarius
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UltimateDarius: 2008-04-10 05:17:49 pm
2008-04-10 04:54:44 pm
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What is the point of Rain Dance in the E4 if X Special can also raise Surf by 1.5?

Here's what I did for the E4. I entered with a lv 50 Blastoise.
Moveset: Earthquake, Brick Break, Surf, Blizzard

Loreli: Used 4 or 5 X Attacks and 1 X Speed while fighting Dewgong. Easy sweep from there with Brick Break and EQ.

Bruno: 1 Guard Spec to stop Onix's Rock Tomb. Used some X Specials. Onix has Roar so I didn't use a lot of them. Ended up sweeping with something like 3 X Specials, 1 X Speed, and the Torrent boost.

Agatha: I found a Lum berry somewhere which helped against Gengar. I forget how this battle went down. I'm pretty sure I got lucky here...

Lance: Used X Specials, a X Speed, and a X Accuracy while fighting Gyarados.

After this I used a Max Ether on Blizzard (from Rock Tunnel)

Rival: Guard Spec to stop Sand Attack. Used 2 X Specials, 1 X Speed, 1 X Accuaracy while fighting Pidgeot. Used another X Special when Venusaur started to take in sunlight.

I'm pretty sure both Surf and Blizzard ended with 0 PP (didn't use any PP Ups).

I also thought of that Chansey strategy. Seems like it would be really frustrating to do though Sad I'll try more Torrent abuse if I speedrun this again.


I entered the E4 with a level 60 Blastoise

I'll address them in order for you Cole.  First off, I'm stupid.  Brick Break was used on Loreli...my bad.  I only needed 1 X-attack (found on the SS Anne) to make Loreli all 2HKOs.  3 should make her OHKO, but I wanted to avoid celedon shopping.  This is the point behind rain dance.  It keeps you out of the department store, and you spend less time messing around in the menu in your bag.

My bruno strat:  Send in Lapras, she can take an earthquake from onix while she uses Mist, then she'll die from the next attack.  From here, use Blastoise, surf Onix, use rain dance (if you didn't heal from the previous battle, the rock tomb/earthquake that the fighting pokemon he sends out uses will bring you into torrent range, and Mist will protect you from speed reduction.  Surf the rest of their pokes to death.

Agatha: Equip...whatever berry it is that wakes you up.  Use rain dance, Gengar uses hypnosis.  You'll wake up.  Surf everyone to death.  No big deal.

Lance:  Self-explanitory

Rival: Guard Spec (found on victory road), X-speed (found in silph co, I think...), X-special (lavender tower?), X-accuracy (rocket hideout, I believe)  then blast him with everything you've got.  A rain dance can help here, but it's not a huge deal.

Yeah.  I haven't actually run the game with rain dance for a definite time, it was pure testing.  But Muk, where he was a 4HKO before, and my biggest run killer after Raichu, is now a 2HKO with a torrented rain danced surf.  But everything else in this gym, and most other places, that was a 2HKO previously is now a guaranteed OHKO
UltimateDarius
2008-04-10 09:28:24 pm
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Interesting. I hadn't thought of Rattata for cut, and I honestly had not found that Sitrus berry (lol; and I had thought I knew where all of the hidden berries were; where's the Sitrus?)

And I knew I would need a couple of PP Ups for Blizzard, but I only know of one. Where is the second one?


There are actually 6 or 7 of them.  However, in our route there are only 3 that you're going to be able to get.  I'm not going to tell you the precise locations of them either, because they're

a) difficult to tell you exactly where they are and
b) I had to do a LOT of itemfinding to find the stuff that I did, and I need to keep at least some secrets until the release of my run.

That being said, the one you probably have is in celedon city.  There's the one right by the fence halfway between lavender and fuschia, but that's out of the way.  There's also a rare candy out there somewhere, but again, doesn't matter.  The next one is in Silph co somewhere.  The 4th one is on cycling road.  There are 2-3 on the islands, but this is only useful for the E4R2 run.  There's also a PP max out there, but again, not the point, and not available to us for the basic run.

The Sitrus berry is visible just coming out of the underground path between cerulean and vermillion, and that's all I'll say about that, because if you know the game, you know what a berry patch in the ground looks like.
JWise
2008-04-10 10:10:26 pm
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Found the berry. Thanks
_Cole_
2008-04-10 10:15:49 pm
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I see why you used Rain Dance now. I had to buy a bunch of X items because I was at a really low level.

Anyways I just realized I missed some Rare Candies. I only got 2 throughout the run. How many do you get Darius? On Serebii it gives 6 locations (+1 after the E4). Are there any hidden ones?
JWise
2008-04-11 12:32:58 am
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I remember on my run I got 2 (maybe 3).

I got the one at Mt. Moon and the one hidden behind the house in Cerulean. I might have picked up another one somewhere...I can't remember.
UltimateDarius
2008-04-11 01:15:14 am
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I see why you used Rain Dance now. I had to buy a bunch of X items because I was at a really low level.

Anyways I just realized I missed some Rare Candies. I only got 2 throughout the run. How many do you get Darius? On Serebii it gives 6 locations (+1 after the E4). Are there any hidden ones?


Oh yeah.  I use 10 before the rival fight prior to victory road, and the 1 on victory road I use prior to the final rival battle.  I am NOT telling where they are though, because I spent several hours looking over every square inch of the map for them, and I need SOME kind of secret for when you all see the video...
_Cole_
2008-04-11 02:00:55 am
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Oh wow. Now I know how you got 10 levels ahead of me :x

Must have been a lot of work. I can understand why you are keeping the locations a secret ;P
UltimateDarius
2008-04-11 02:19:02 am
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Oh wow. Now I know how you got 10 levels ahead of me :x

Must have been a lot of work. I can understand why you are keeping the locations a secret ;P


Lol, yeah.  I'd be totally willing to discuss any and all other aspects of this run with you via an instant messenger, if you've got one.  But, yeah, it was a lot of tedious, meticulous work itemfinding EVERYWHERE.  I have an AIM listed on my profile, but I'll also give you my YIM in a PM if you want it.
_Cole_
2008-04-11 02:31:37 am
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Lol, yeah.  I'd be totally willing to discuss any and all other aspects of this run with you via an instant messenger, if you've got one.  But, yeah, it was a lot of tedious, meticulous work itemfinding EVERYWHERE.  I have an AIM listed on my profile, but I'll also give you my YIM in a PM if you want it.

I put my AIM in my profile. I'm rarely ever online though...
I'll probably post in this thread if there's something I want to discuss.
_Cole_
2008-04-17 02:32:57 am
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Ok I'm thinking of doing another run on the weekend. I found some hidden rare candy locations on a guide from GameFAQs. It gives 4 but I'm only going to get 3 because you need to fight a trainer to get one of them. That will give me 8 before Victory Road.

You used all your Rare Candies near the end but I've been thinking of using them when I get them. I lose some levels in the end but it could save time overall. I remember in my run that I had to fight those trainers in Misty's gym because I didn't have Bite or Mega Punch. With the 2 rare candies I can skip those fights. I'll probably still have to buy X items from Celadon though...

So here's the main things I'll do differently:
Get Mega Punch.
More Rare Candies.
No Dugtrio. Get Rattata for Cut and teach it Dig.
Get fly after Rocket Hideout instead of making a stupid mistake.


And I'm still undecided on what nature to opt for. +SpA -SpD could work because there aren't many special attackers. Surge and some rival fights would be annoying though. +SpA -Atk would hurt in rival fights too. +SpA -Spd is decent but that might cause random stuff to outspeed Blastoise. I'll just settle for the first decent nature I get :\
UltimateDarius
2008-04-17 09:16:54 pm
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Ok I'm thinking of doing another run on the weekend. I found some hidden rare candy locations on a guide from GameFAQs. It gives 4 but I'm only going to get 3 because you need to fight a trainer to get one of them. That will give me 8 before Victory Road.

You used all your Rare Candies near the end but I've been thinking of using them when I get them. I lose some levels in the end but it could save time overall. I remember in my run that I had to fight those trainers in Misty's gym because I didn't have Bite or Mega Punch. With the 2 rare candies I can skip those fights. I'll probably still have to buy X items from Celadon though...

So here's the main things I'll do differently:
Get Mega Punch.
More Rare Candies.
No Dugtrio. Get Rattata for Cut and teach it Dig.
Get fly after Rocket Hideout instead of making a stupid mistake.


And I'm still undecided on what nature to opt for. +SpA -SpD could work because there aren't many special attackers. Surge and some rival fights would be annoying though. +SpA -Atk would hurt in rival fights too. +SpA -Spd is decent but that might cause random stuff to outspeed Blastoise. I'll just settle for the first decent nature I get :\



What's the purpose of teaching Ratatta Dig?  It's faster to go into your menu and use the escape rope (all of them that you'll need are entirely en route) than to teach him Dig, and go thru the animation of him coming out of the pokeball, then the warp animation.

During my run, I only fought Misty.  The way I do it, I have Bite right after I KO Staryu, for use on Starmie.  So on that note, Rare candies unnecessary here.  Mega Punch Staryu for a 2HKO (assuming that you don't have a -Atk nature.), Bite Starmie for a 3HKO.  Also, although it may not matter to you if you're running it segmented, I equip a persim berry to cure the occasional water pulse induced confusion.  Be sure to fight Misty prior to the rival battle at the bridge for the best result.

For the record, you can torrent sweep (and you should, segmented) from the point in time when you learn bubble (right after defeating the bug catcher's level 9 weedle) thru brock's gym all the way to Misty.  You'll heal for this fight, and if all goes well in the rival fight, you'll be able to torrent sweep all the way to Bill's house.  Since you're doing a segmented run, you can probably find other places where you may be able to do this as well,  but I do know that on the way to and thru rock tunnel is a bad idea.

If you fight all the right battles, Raichu is a 2HKO with Mega Punch.  The battles are a picnicker (sp?) with a lone butterfree, which can be torrent water pulsed OHKO for a little over 600 exp, as well as the trainers needed to obtain brick break and the X-attack. The Butterfree battle is avoidable, but makes the difference in the surge battle between needing to use 2 mega punches, or a mega punch followed by a mega kick.  Since you're segmenting this, you could opt to avoid this battle at your discretion.  Otherwise...DO NOT USE MEGA KICK, as this will either miss, or cause Surge to heal Raichu.  Again, more of a SS warning, I guess.  Your Sitrus berry will restore about 35 HP of the 40 that shock wave does to you, so if all goes well, Raichu will shock wave you, you'll mega punch him, your berry will heal you, repeat for the match.

As far as your trainer battle to get a rare candy is concerned, the exp obtained from this battle actually makes the difference between an extra level or not having an extra level, so in all actuality, you're gaining 2 levels from this one fight (the one in cinnabar mansion, right?).  He only has 2 or 3 pokes, all OHKOs with brick break.  On that note, if you didn't fight the butterfree earlier, you could instead fight the snorlax for an extra level, but he's a 2-3HKO with brick break (depending on whether or not he uses rest as his first move)

Trust me, your best bet is to wait until the rival battle before victory road.  It makes the difference between needing X items and not, and it makes for a MUCH easier, and, therefore, swifter (read:  SPEEDY) battle.

Let me know if you need more insight Smiley
_Cole_
2008-04-17 11:51:04 pm
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Thanks for the insight. Ok I'll use Escape Ropes over Dig. Would it be faster just to buy them from a PokeMart instead of picking them up along the way?

Thanks for the torrent tips too. I'll try that this run.

With my strategy I can skip all of those battles.
Skip a few early battles - 2 Rare Candies make up for that
Skip that Butterfree battle - 1 Rare Candy makes up for that
Skip the battles for X Attack and Brick Break - Buy them from Celadon.
Skip the Pokemon Mansion battle - X items make up for the -2 levels.

I still want to do the underleved X item strategy... I'm not sure if it's faster but it's much more simpler than yours. I don't have a guide book or anything so finding all the items I need would be tough.

The Pros and cons of my strategy are:
+Less trainer battles
+Not picking up that many items

-Shopping at Celadon
-Slower and tougher battles near the end

I'd say it's pretty close :S Yours is definitely more thought out and safer for a SS run though.
UltimateDarius
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UltimateDarius: 2008-04-19 01:12:05 am
2008-04-19 01:07:29 am
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Thanks for the insight. Ok I'll use Escape Ropes over Dig. Would it be faster just to buy them from a PokeMart instead of picking them up along the way?

Thanks for the torrent tips too. I'll try that this run.

With my strategy I can skip all of those battles.
Skip a few early battles - 2 Rare Candies make up for that
Skip that Butterfree battle - 1 Rare Candy makes up for that
Skip the battles for X Attack and Brick Break - Buy them from Celadon.
Skip the Pokemon Mansion battle - X items make up for the -2 levels.

I still want to do the underleved X item strategy... I'm not sure if it's faster but it's much more simpler than yours. I don't have a guide book or anything so finding all the items I need would be tough.

The Pros and cons of my strategy are:
+Less trainer battles
+Not picking up that many items

-Shopping at Celadon
-Slower and tougher battles near the end

I'd say it's pretty close :S Yours is definitely more thought out and safer for a SS run though.


Get that lucky egg.  Make it and safari zone it's own segment.  It'll make up for all of the rare candies, I'd wager.

Also, you obviously can skip the 3 battles before surge, but like I said, you're out those candies for later, and all of these battles will be OHKOs...so check my math:  Talk to trainer, they send out 1 or 2 pokes, you OHKO it, get your exp, get your item instead of having to shop, leave.  By the time you do this, you're just getting to the counter in celedon and talking to the shopkeeper.

Gamefaqs.  As much as I hate them, they're a good resource for this sort of thing.  My strat involves mostly stuff en route:  X-items, 11 rare candies, and a bunch of vitamins.  I shop 3 times: Viridian, Cerulean, and Lavender.
_Cole_
2008-04-20 09:32:03 pm
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Finished a segemented run of 2:21.46. Faster than I thought I would get Cheesy



Mega Punch and more Rare Candies really helped. I got my HM slaves right away too. Other than that it was pretty much the same strategy as before.

(Left is old, right is new)
Coming out of the Cerulean Gym: 0:30 0:26 -4
Coming out of the Vermillion Gym: 0:57 0:48 -9
Rock Tunnel Entrance: 1:03 0:53 -10
Lavender Town: 1:13 1:02 -11
Entering Fuschia Town: 1:39 1:22 -17
Coming out of the Cinabar Gym: 1:54 1:35 -19
Coming out of the Viridian Gym: 2:19 1:57 -22
Indigo Plateau: 2:27 2:05 -22
Final Time: 2:45.52 2:21.46 -24.06

Ended up starting the E4 at level 52. I skipped a few Rare Candies because I didn't need them.

The ones I got and where I used them:
Mt Moon + Cereleuan - Right before Misty
Route before Surge + Rocket Hideout - Right before Lavender rival
Pokemon Tower + Cycling Road - Right before Koga I think
Strength House - Right before Elite 4

No huge mistakes. There was some items that I didn't need to buy/pick-up. I could have used 1 or 2 less Poke Centers if I get Ethers/PP Ups instead. Some Gym battles could have been done a little better.

If I speedrun this again I'll record it.
JWise
2008-04-21 10:00:38 pm
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Very very nice. Seriously
UltimateDarius
2008-04-22 08:09:36 pm
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Finished a segemented run of 2:21.46. Faster than I thought I would get Cheesy

Mega Punch and more Rare Candies really helped. I got my HM slaves right away too. Other than that it was pretty much the same strategy as before.

(Left is old, right is new)
Coming out of the Cerulean Gym: 0:30 0:26 -4
Coming out of the Vermillion Gym: 0:57 0:48 -9
Rock Tunnel Entrance: 1:03 0:53 -10
Lavender Town: 1:13 1:02 -11
Entering Fuschia Town: 1:39 1:22 -17
Coming out of the Cinabar Gym: 1:54 1:35 -19
Coming out of the Viridian Gym: 2:19 1:57 -22
Indigo Plateau: 2:27 2:05 -22
Final Time: 2:45.52 2:21.46 -24.06

Ended up starting the E4 at level 52. I skipped a few Rare Candies because I didn't need them.

The ones I got and where I used them:
Mt Moon + Cereleuan - Right before Misty
Route before Surge + Rocket Hideout - Right before Lavender rival
Pokemon Tower + Cycling Road - Right before Koga I think
Strength House - Right before Elite 4

No huge mistakes. There was some items that I didn't need to buy/pick-up. I could have used 1 or 2 less Poke Centers if I get Ethers/PP Ups instead. Some Gym battles could have been done a little better.

If I speedrun this again I'll record it.



So let me get this straight: You used the 2 candies instead of fighting one extra trainer battle before Misty?

2 Rare Candies before Lavender Rival?  Why?

The rest I don't agree with either, but they make a lot more sense than the first half or whatever.  I do commend your time though!

BTW, my SS is devoid of PokeCenter visits...how many did you use?

I just started a game for purpose of testing the Lucky Egg segmented idea.  I'll keep you posted.  Either that, or steal your glory Wink  We'll see =P