OoT [N64] Segmented [Suspended]

Acryte

2006-09-23 10:18:15 pm

Zelda Scientist®

I can't make vids... I still can't use my emulator and my capture card has a newfound interest in men...

Manocheese

2006-09-24 01:21:04 am

Yes, a cucco riding the ground.

I don't get it. <_<

The part at the end with the well was nifty, though.

Acryte

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Acryte: 2006-09-24 11:59:22 am

2006-09-24 09:29:49 am

Zelda Scientist®

Ok, Im pretty sure adult just can't go through walls... we should try manipulation w/ hover boots and crap too, to see if we can get extra push like in other boosting techniques.

Here is another very very very easy technique (100% success rate) to go through walls... climb up. Then drop off. then fall and hold forward, and as soon as you know you are gonna grab on, shield drop a bombchu. Works almost every time and is very easy. This technique is good if you have enough height to drop and bombchus to spare... whereas the other method (2 bomb groundjump) is good for doing it w/ limited climbing height since you can do it right at the base of the wall, and you don't need to climb either. Though the bombchu one is probably slower by a few seconds due to required climbing heights. This method isn't even an option when it comes to ladders, though I still havent managed to do it sucessfully on a ladder... ok... I think you can't do it to ladders.... maybe if you are jumping to climb on...

Oh, and here's an even easier one... groundjump, sheld dropped bombchu. This is an easy 100% method that is usable on any vinewall.

DUDE!!!!!! You can get in a room that is below the slingshot room@! (I think it is the room before the water platform room. The one w/ the scrub.

Does this have any use in forest? (not speedrun wise but more for getting into the boss room)

So basically, you can go through ladders as an adult, and through walls as a kid, as far as wallclipping is concerned...

So far as a kid I have tested:
Vinewalls (yes)
Ladders (no)
Brick walls (yes)
Vines [like in hyrule castle](yes)
Stone Wall (yes)
Grate (yes)

Basically anything you can climb except wooden ladders.

Oh and I did that glitch in shadow but you fall into the void no matter your X position (or height for that matter). Angry

Ok, Im pretty sure adult just can't go through walls... we should try manipulation w/ hover boots and crap too, to see if we can get extra push like in other boosting techniques.

Here is another very very very easy technique (100% success rate) to go through walls... climb up. Then drop off. then fall and hold forward, and as soon as you know you are gonna grab on, shield drop a bombchu. Works almost every time and is very easy. This technique is good if you have enough height to drop and bombchus to spare... whereas the other method (2 bomb groundjump) is good for doing it w/ limited climbing height since you can do it right at the base of the wall, and you don't need to climb either. Though the bombchu one is probably slower by a few seconds due to required climbing heights. This method isn't even an option when it comes to ladders, though I still havent managed to do it sucessfully on a ladder... ok... I think you can't do it to ladders.... maybe if you are jumping to climb on...

Oh, and here's an even easier one... groundjump, sheld dropped bombchu. This is an easy 100% method that is usable on any vinewall.

DUDE!!!!!! You can get in a room that is below the slingshot room@! (I think it is the room before the water platform room. The one w/ the scrub.

Does this have any use in forest? (not speedrun wise but more for getting into the boss room)

So basically, you can go through ladders as an adult, and through walls as a kid, as far as wallclipping is concerned...

So far as a kid I have tested:
Vinewalls (yes)
Ladders (no)
Brick walls (yes)
Vines [like in hyrule castle](yes)
Stone Wall (yes)
Grate (yes)

Basically anything you can climb except wooden ladders.

Oh and I did that glitch in shadow but you fall into the void no matter your X position (or height for that matter).  >:(

TSA

2006-09-24 06:55:26 pm

Retired

Besides the Hyrule Castle Moat in 1 bomb trick, are there any things I need to be aware of for segments 1-12 that would require me to redo any segments?

AKA

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AKA: 2006-09-24 07:33:55 pm

2006-09-24 07:31:58 pm

He's back!

I did some investigation into the skip and shadow and it looks unlikely unless you could somehow get a sideways into the area where the red dot is

http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shadowkc2.jpg

tapoolno

2006-09-24 08:05:13 pm

Quote:

Ok, Im pretty sure adult just can't go through walls... we should try manipulation w/ hover boots and crap too, to see if we can get extra push like in other boosting techniques.

Here is another very very very easy technique (100% success rate) to go through walls... climb up. Then drop off. then fall and hold forward, and as soon as you know you are gonna grab on, shield drop a bombchu. Works almost every time and is very easy. This technique is good if you have enough height to drop and bombchus to spare... whereas the other method (2 bomb groundjump) is good for doing it w/ limited climbing height since you can do it right at the base of the wall, and you don't need to climb either. Though the bombchu one is probably slower by a few seconds due to required climbing heights. This method isn't even an option when it comes to ladders, though I still havent managed to do it sucessfully on a ladder... ok... I think you can't do it to ladders.... maybe if you are jumping to climb on...

Oh, and here's an even easier one... groundjump, sheld dropped bombchu. This is an easy 100% method that is usable on any vinewall.

DUDE!!!!!! You can get in a room that is below the slingshot room@! (I think it is the room before the water platform room. The one w/ the scrub.

Does this have any use in forest? (not speedrun wise but more for getting into the boss room)

So basically, you can go through ladders as an adult, and through walls as a kid, as far as wallclipping is concerned...

So far as a kid I have tested:
Vinewalls (yes)
Ladders (no)
Brick walls (yes)
Vines [like in hyrule castle](yes)
Stone Wall (yes)
Grate (yes)

Basically anything you can climb except wooden ladders.

Oh and I did that glitch in shadow but you fall into the void no matter your X position (or height for that matter). Angry

Is this a boundary violation?

[quote]Ok, Im pretty sure adult just can't go through walls... we should try manipulation w/ hover boots and crap too, to see if we can get extra push like in other boosting techniques.

Here is another very very very easy technique (100% success rate) to go through walls... climb up. Then drop off. then fall and hold forward, and as soon as you know you are gonna grab on, shield drop a bombchu. Works almost every time and is very easy. This technique is good if you have enough height to drop and bombchus to spare... whereas the other method (2 bomb groundjump) is good for doing it w/ limited climbing height since you can do it right at the base of the wall, and you don't need to climb either. Though the bombchu one is probably slower by a few seconds due to required climbing heights. This method isn't even an option when it comes to ladders, though I still havent managed to do it sucessfully on a ladder... ok... I think you can't do it to ladders.... maybe if you are jumping to climb on...

Oh, and here's an even easier one... groundjump, sheld dropped bombchu. This is an easy 100% method that is usable on any vinewall.

DUDE!!!!!! You can get in a room that is below the slingshot room@! (I think it is the room before the water platform room. The one w/ the scrub.

Does this have any use in forest? (not speedrun wise but more for getting into the boss room)

So basically, you can go through ladders as an adult, and through walls as a kid, as far as wallclipping is concerned...

So far as a kid I have tested:
Vinewalls (yes)
Ladders (no)
Brick walls (yes)
Vines [like in hyrule castle](yes)
Stone Wall (yes)
Grate (yes)

Basically anything you can climb except wooden ladders.

Oh and I did that glitch in shadow but you fall into the void no matter your X position (or height for that matter).  >:([/quote]
 Is this a boundary violation?

Kazooie

2006-09-24 08:48:55 pm

Zelda Rulez!

yes it's :-/
Acryte - That bombchus shield drop is easiest way to do it. One thing where this come handy is that you can get to the boss room with that glitch but you need do it high as you can because if link doesnt have enougth height you will fall in the void Smiley

This is good glitch.
So you said that glitch work on ladders as adult, right?

I need to do video of that forest temple one as a child.

Peppyman

2006-09-24 08:51:03 pm

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yes it's :-/
Acryte - That bombchus shield drop is easiest way to do it. One thing where this come handy is that you can get to the boss room with that glitch but you need do it high as you can because if link doesnt have enougth height you will fall in the void Smiley

This is good glitch.
So you said that glitch work on ladders as adult, right?

I need to do video of that forest temple one as a child.

I want to see the forest temple glitch Cheesy

Acryte

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Acryte: 2006-09-24 09:47:21 pm

2006-09-24 09:44:18 pm

Zelda Scientist®

no, on ladders you just use hookshot. As a kid you can do this instead since you can't use hookshot.

its a shame adult can't do it... I wanted to do it in ganon's tower just to be like.... well, I'm leaving ganondorf. later bro.

mwl

2006-09-24 10:15:24 pm

Are there any places in MM where this glitch could potentially be useful?

AKA

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AKA: 2006-09-24 10:48:55 pm

2006-09-24 10:17:27 pm

He's back!

Quote:

no, on ladders you just use hookshot. As a kid you can do this instead since you can't use hookshot.

its a shame adult can't do it... I wanted to do it in ganon's tower just to be like.... well, I'm leaving ganondorf. later bro.

Child Link can glitch into the ladders , but it requires a pixel perfect backflip and even when he glitches through it as soon as he presses A he appears back on top again, I think even when you do backflip Linkgrabs the ledge with one hand facing the wrong way, but thats the only chance of YL glitching through the ladder.

I don't see how it could be of any use in room below the GD battle.

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Are there any places in MM where this glitch could potentially be useful?

Doesn't appear to work, haven't really extensively tested it though. The climbing visuals seem a bit crisper in MM.

Fail Boat

2006-09-25 01:07:43 am

forum lurker

I made a video of how to skip getting the Fire Temple boss key.

coolcwer2

2006-09-25 01:10:58 am

Yay!

Manocheese

2006-09-25 02:32:33 am

Yes, a cucco riding the ground.

Sweet.

laughing_gas

2006-09-25 02:56:43 am

Existence as you know it is over

that was weird

xenos

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xenos: 2006-09-25 10:06:59 am

2006-09-25 03:31:55 am

Ii have fiinally produced a viideo of that gliitch Ii was talkiing about. Sorry about the low viideo and sound qualiity and you can also hear me cliicking away whiile Ii play but iit iis better than nothiing and Ii don't have an emulator. By my tiiming thiis segment was more than 50 seconds faster than TSA's equiiviilent segment and Ii stiill made miistakes. You can watch iit Here.

c4p7ain c0mp0s7

2006-09-25 04:24:42 am

Food goes in here

Ok, I'm confused. When you swing your sword doesn't the sword glitch deactivate? Or do you not need it to slip throught the web?

xenos

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xenos: 2006-09-25 10:08:25 am

2006-09-25 04:29:19 am

Iin the video Ii was just showiing you that you couldn't walk on top of the web whiile the sword gliitch iis active. Ii then deactiive iit so Ii can grab the ledge. Iin a speedrun you don't need to walk up to the web you can just contiinue backwalkiing after you do the backfliip and you swiing your sword whiile you are backwalkiing so as soon as you get to the web you can go straiight through.

TSA

2006-09-25 04:46:32 am

Retired

I am giving up on this run because I have almost no interest in it anymore. Feel free somebody else to pick it up and do it.

Thanks.

Fail Boat

2006-09-25 04:57:23 am

forum lurker

Quote:

I am giving up on this run because I have almost no interest in it anymore. Feel free somebody else to pick it up and do it.

Thanks.

I will when I finish my PoP: TTT speedrun (unless someone else does first).

Manocheese

2006-09-25 05:09:50 am

Yes, a cucco riding the ground.

I had a feeling this would happen. Well, I might do it if I can ever find time to.

TSA

2006-09-25 05:17:16 am

Retired

Thanks for the hard work and support. While it would have been cool to be the first person to break this game apart in an official run, doesn't feel right that I am doing it when so much of the work was done by you guys and the fact I just can't stand playing this game anymore at this high a level of skill. Having to redo a segment because I make a misstep here, or an extra second there...you know you can do it, but sometimes you get to a point where you've had enough and don't feel you need to do this anymore because you've got nothing left to prove and it's hurting your experience with these games.

UchihaSasuke

2006-09-25 05:19:02 am

Stand: Devil's Call in your Heart

i guess that finishing the run with less polished segments wasn't an option...

TSA

2006-09-25 05:20:59 am

Retired

It would be a dishonor to the work done by so many. Somebody will come along and make the run as it should be - all segments done, with all the tricks done properly.

Each segment I did can be improved upon by a bit.

Manocheese

2006-09-25 05:38:26 am

Yes, a cucco riding the ground.

Quote:

Thanks for the hard work and support. While it would have been cool to be the first person to break this game apart in an official run, doesn't feel right that I am doing it when so much of the work was done by you guys and the fact I just can't stand playing this game anymore at this high a level of skill. Having to redo a segment because I make a misstep here, or an extra second there...you know you can do it, but sometimes you get to a point where you've had enough and don't feel you need to do this anymore because you've got nothing left to prove and it's hurting your experience with these games.

I understand completely.

Of course, now that no one is doing the run, there could be some sort of rush to be the one to get it done.