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Acryte

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Acryte: 2006-06-03 09:25:30 pm

2006-06-03 09:09:43 pm

Zelda Scientist®

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I forget, but do we ever talk to the Keaton-mask guard?

no. not if you go through lost woods (using scale).

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The main reason why we can't use bomb flowers on King Dodongo is the fact that you can't lift them up (no power bracelet)?

True.

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There has been some mention about getting the bomb bag from bombchu bowling, or something... Does getting the bomb bag give us automatic power bracelet powers? I know it defeats the purpose of not getting bombs, but whatever.

Umm... you can lift bombs that you drop after you get bombbag, but not bombflowers.

Cbuttons glitch? IDK what you are talking about.

Yautja - CRAP! that is lame. I hate that owl.

CAN YOU STORE GROUNDJUMP OFF DODONGO??? w/ bombflower?

mwl

2006-06-03 09:11:16 pm

You can only get bombs from the C-button glitch when you become an adult.

Somebody has mentioned that without the bracelets/gauntlet, you can't pull the invisible block in Shadow. Is this true?

TSA

2006-06-03 09:17:18 pm

Retired

Not sure, but doesn't matter.

Acryte

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Acryte: 2006-06-03 09:33:32 pm

2006-06-03 09:27:21 pm

Zelda Scientist®

K.... you can store a groundjump off king dodongo's roll attack and the bombflowers. Im gonna try groundjump => bombchu now. Dang, if you can do it it's gonna be really tough.

Optime

2006-06-03 09:31:43 pm

March 16, 2010

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Kazooie found a way to skip the Silver Gauntlets with some help from Acryte. Hang on, I'll make a video.

Edit: Video done

wtf!! good find!

littlel

2006-06-03 09:37:39 pm

ok, i got most of the glitches working, but im having trouble with the bombchu/bomb boosts, ground jumps etc. any tips would be helpful

Acryte

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Acryte: 2006-06-03 10:22:36 pm

2006-06-03 09:42:54 pm

Zelda Scientist®

Anyone else wanna try their skills at groundjump => bombchu on dodongo? Firstly dodongo's head stops you from gaining height from the jump underneath so you need to be slightly to the side of in front of him. I think this is possible however... just hard.

If it is possible you're gonna have to do it on the side of the jaw w/out z targettting King Dodongo.

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Can you walk up Dodongo's legs?

No. Neither can you backflip over them (if it even yeilded a slightly higher backflip anyways).

TSA

2006-06-03 10:10:03 pm

Retired

Can you walk up Dodongo's legs?

ItsMuckimuck

2006-06-03 10:11:33 pm

I changed teh page h ttp://mwlin.freehostia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Inside_Ganon%27s_Castle#Skip_mini-dungeons
A little bit , i uploaded my videos new and added them there , if you dont want it remove it only Smiley

Mfg

YautjaElder

2006-06-03 10:26:26 pm

Speed is the key.

The legs are like they aren't even there, you can send a bombchu right through them.

DK64_MASTER

2006-06-03 10:58:24 pm

Crazy retarded idea.

Can we shoot an arrow (deku seed/nut) at a bomb FLOWER to make it explode?

Can we somehow use that to help us?

Acryte

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Acryte: 2006-06-03 11:08:46 pm

2006-06-03 10:58:33 pm

Zelda Scientist®

well so far nothing. it sucks because even th tiniest levitation off the ground which is like probably 5 cm higher in links world is enough to make him eat the bomb.... man, too bad link isn't big lol. Anyways I'm gonna keep going at this when I get back from work. If this comes through that would be awesome.
Then we could get bombchus, then skip SG and skip bombbag + bracelet + darunia + cutscene w/ nabooru + a chunk of child spirit + saria's song + SFM
DKMASTER: no. but you can backflip + bombchu to make it explode. This is pointless. The closest thing we have is groundjump bombchu... so close.... bleh.

otherwise if we need to, wouldn't it be fast to skip SG and then grab bombbag in dodongo's? That is, if king dodongo doesn't turn out. Plus we must remember that if it does we consume an extra 2 bombchus...

UchihaSasuke

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UchihaSasuke: 2006-06-03 11:11:47 pm

2006-06-03 11:10:22 pm

Stand: Devil's Call in your Heart

i found out you couldn't move the block behind the fake wall in Shadow and you can't move the Forest green blocks either if you lack both bracelet/gauntlets.

thankfully i was playing MQ and there was an alternate way up in Forest. Shadow is different in MQ so the key might not be required from that room in regular OoT.

DK64_MASTER

2006-06-03 11:13:40 pm

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well so far nothing. it sucks because even th tiniest levitation off the ground which is like probably 5 cm higher in links world is enough to make him eat the bomb.... man, too bad link isn't big lol. Anyways I'm gonna keep going at this when I get back from work. If this comes through that would be awesome.
Then we could get bombchus, then skip SG and skip bombbag + bracelet + darunia + cutscene w/ nabooru + a chunk of child spirit + saria's song + SFM
DKMASTER: no. but you can backflip + bombchu to make it explode. This is pointless. The closest thing we have is groundjump bombchu... so close.... bleh.

otherwise if we need to, wouldn't it be fast to skip SG and then grab bombbag in dodongo's? That is, if king dodongo doesn't turn out. Plus we must remember that if it does we consume an extra 2 bombchus...

Are you certain he can even eat bombchus? Has anyone confirmed this using the levitation glitch?

Mad_Andy

2006-06-03 11:21:18 pm

He does eat bombchus. I tested it with AR and moon jump.

YautjaElder

2006-06-03 11:34:19 pm

Speed is the key.

So the SG skip is useless because we still need them to push the blocks in Forest. Sucks.

The one in Shadow is a different story, though.

Acryte

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Acryte: 2006-06-03 11:43:26 pm

2006-06-03 11:42:42 pm

Zelda Scientist®

crap. well then I guess I can stop trying to blow up king dodongo. Wait, w/ hover and groundjump we still can't get past those blocks? has anyone tried anthing like this? Let us not assume.

YautjaElder

2006-06-04 12:06:17 am

Speed is the key.

You'd still need to push them to get them into a position from where you could use hover + groundjump to get up to the ledges.

Mad_Andy

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Mad_Andy: 2006-06-04 12:16:12 am

2006-06-04 12:11:56 am

Damn, this sucks. However, maybe we can use your trick of getting from one hand to the other to skip child spirit anyway?

SeraphicRadiance

2006-06-04 02:15:11 am

That only works with the longshot.

Kazooie

2006-06-04 08:28:38 am

Zelda Rulez!

Wow! you guys rock.

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well so far nothing. it sucks because even th tiniest levitation off the ground which is like probably 5 cm higher in links world is enough to make him eat the bomb.... man, too bad link isn't big lol. Anyways I'm gonna keep going at this when I get back from work. If this comes through that would be awesome.
Then we could get bombchus, then skip SG and skip bombbag + bracelet + darunia + cutscene w/ nabooru + a chunk of child spirit + saria's song + SFM

Acryte-where you can bombchus if you doesn't get bombchus from spirit temple as child?

Now saria song can skipped so what is fastes route for speedrun for TSA?

What is best way to take, get goron bracelet or silver gauntles?

Can somebody please tell me those things? Smiley

Acryte

2006-06-04 08:35:26 am

Zelda Scientist®

getting sg is better. If king dodongo's worked out then we would go till bombchus and get those and then go back w/out SG... but since we need SG for forest then that is out the window. Skipping Saria's song is way faster I think w/ more benefits.

YautjaElder

2006-06-04 09:20:29 am

Speed is the key.

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That only works with the longshot.

No, it doesn't. It works with Hookshot.

Acryte

2006-06-04 09:39:41 am

Zelda Scientist®

Oh dang... you mean... SG for forest by doing spirit first? that is prostyle. Now, we need bombchu. That is the difference between it because bombchu in kid saves lots of time whereas the extra time after that to get the SG isn't that great... though the extra time to get it from adult spirit is next to none. Of course you lose time in dodongo's (more than you save)... but skipping SG till adult needs bombchu and if you skip that in spirit you have to buy them which means wallet upgrade. Can someone make an excell table of all this? I would but I dont have MSoffice.

YautjaElder

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YautjaElder: 2006-06-04 10:27:36 am

2006-06-04 09:45:26 am

Speed is the key.

Even if we were going to use my trick to get SG directly after MS, it would require hover.

Edit: Appaprently, we don't need hover to get from hand to hand ::):