Okami (PS2)

2007-05-07 09:42:12 am

Well good luck with that. At worst this was a practice run.

I've seen some of your videos, and there are enough things that I know you do really really well so that your run should have a chance in verification.

I'm guessing you got through with a very small amount of praise? Then again, I bet some of the big hauls of praise late in the game would be worth getting.

groobo

Edit history:

groobo: 2007-05-07 03:44:30 pm

2007-05-07 03:23:51 pm

boss

I've used my praise for a pourse upgrade along with some ink upgrades. I had like 80 praise left at the fight with Rao so I've used it when I was low on health.

Smoe

2007-06-10 08:32:15 pm

No health upgreades?

groobo

2007-06-10 09:28:02 pm

boss

Just one, only because I was low on health at that point (upgrading health regenerates it fully) and I didn't have enough praise to upgrade ink.

groobo

2007-08-19 10:42:52 am

boss

In case someone is still interested in an improved new game plus run, here's the new route (with a shitload of new minor/major sequence breaks):

SEGMENT 1:
- complete the tutorial
- examine three statues in kamiki village
- learn sunrise
- save

SEGMENT 2:
- shinshu field early
- get to hana valley
- complete hana valley
- clear the mist in shinshu field
- save

SEGMENT 3:
- start the shinshu field wanted list sub-quest
- get cherry bomb
- activate shinshu field mermaid spring
- agata forest early
- clear the mist in agata forest
- skip the fight with Waka
- fish with Kokari
- enter tsuta ruins
- save

SEGMENT 4:
- 2nd floor early
- complete the rest of tsuta ruins as usual (skipping the five evil pots cutscene) up untill you get vine
- exit the room where you got vine
- save

SEGMENT 5:
- exit tsuta ruins
- activate agata forest mermaid spring
- taka pass early

SEGMENT 6:
- fight Waka
- clear the mist in taka pass
- get to kusa village
- help Fuse
- find four dogs
- fight the fifth dog
- get to taka pass
- activate taka pass mermaid spring
- bomb cutter's roof
- wait till night
- rescue the little bird from the cutters
- get to sasa sanctuary
- help mr. bamboo and the dancing bird
- learn watersprout
- fight the sasa sanctuary dog
- get a mermaid coin from mr. bamboo on your way back
- warp to agata forest
- help Kushi
- fish with Kokari
- learn crescent
- fight the agata forest dog
- buy 11 mermaid coins
- warp to shinshu field
- get to kamiki village
- win the turnip digging game (manipulate the time of day if you must) and show the last turnip to the little kid
- fight the kamiki village dog (it has to be night)
- return to shinshu field
- warp to taka pass
- get to kusa village
- get to gale shrine
- complete gale shrine as usual up untill you get galestorm
- exit gale shrine
- get to taka pass
- get to city checkpoint
- save

SEGMENT 7:
- ryoshima coast early
- save

SEGMENT 8:
- clear the mist in ryoshima coast
- get to the dojo without lilypad
- learn double jump
- get to sei'an city
- skip water puzzle
- talk to Rao
- get Rao's paper slips
- get to sei'an's exit
- save

SEGMENT 9:
- get to ryoshima coast
- get on the moon turret and cast crescent
- get into the sunken ship
- get to the treasure room
- lucky mallet early
- suicide at the water dragon scene
- get to sei'an city
- skip water puzzle again
- get to the imperial gardens
- complete the imperial gardens as usual up untill you get mist
- exit the imperial gardens
- get to sei'an's exit
- save

SEGMENT 10:
- get to ryoshima coast
- north ryoshima coast early
- watcher's cape early
- activate the entrance to the dragon kingdom
- get Orca
- get to the dragon kingdom
- save

SEGMENT 11:
- water dragon early
- complete the water dragon
- talk to Otohime
- save

SEGMENT 12:
- get to north ryoshima coast
- get to ryoshima coast
- use the secret entrance to sei'an city (trigger the only required cutscene)
- get to Himiko's palace
- get to Himiko without the fire tablet
- fight evil Rao
- exit Himiko's palace without the fire tablet
- get to sei'an's exit
- save

SEGMENT 13:
- get to ryoshima coast
- get to north ryoshima coast
- watcher's cape early
- talk to Otohime
- get to oni island
- skip the fire fountain without the fire tablet
- get onto oni island's walls without the fire tablet
- get to oni fortress
- save

SEGMENT 14:
- 2nd floor early
- get exorcism key
- skip the first gate on your way back
- open the second gate
- learn thunderstorm
- head back to the place where you used a exorcism key
- save

SEGMENT 15:
- get pass main gate early
- get to the 2d part as usual
- activate the mechanism
- get to 2nd floor
- get to 3rd floor early
- complete the rest of the 2d part as usual
- save

SEGMENT 16:
- get lightning key
- get to the room with a hanging spider
- little tower early
- get exorcism key
- open the gate
- race with Tobi
- oni fortress roof early
- fight Ninetails
- save

SEGMENT 17:
- activate north ryoshima coast mermaid spring
- warp to shinshu field
- kamui early
- skip the fight with Oki
- clear the mist in kamui
- skip the igloo turtle fight
- get to wep'keer
- save

SEGMENT 18:
- ezofuji early
- get to wawku shrine entrance
- save

SEGMENT 19:
- wawku shrine early
- 2nd floor early
- 3rd floor without catwalk
- get through the cannons and spinning wheels part
- save

SEGMENT 20:
- get outside
- golden cannon area early
- destroy the golden cannon
- complete the room with burning spinning wheels without blizzard
- fight Nechku and Lechku
- save

SEGMENT 21:
- complete the ark of yamato

So basically I finished the testing/planning phase and I'm ready to record. Additionally, Mike allowed me to use String of Beads in a run. It should save tons of time at the ark of yamato. And as you probably already know, the run should be done in a couple of days :).

In case someone is still interested in an improved new game plus run, here's the new route (with a shitload of new minor/major sequence breaks):

SEGMENT 1:
- complete the tutorial
- examine three statues in kamiki village
- learn sunrise
- save

SEGMENT 2:
- shinshu field early
- get to hana valley
- complete hana valley
- clear the mist in shinshu field
- save

SEGMENT 3:
- start the shinshu field wanted list sub-quest
- get cherry bomb
- activate shinshu field mermaid spring
- agata forest early
- clear the mist in agata forest
- skip the fight with Waka
- fish with Kokari
- enter tsuta ruins
- save

SEGMENT 4:
- 2nd floor early
- complete the rest of tsuta ruins as usual (skipping the five evil pots cutscene) up untill you get vine
- exit the room where you got vine
- save

SEGMENT 5:
- exit tsuta ruins
- activate agata forest mermaid spring
- taka pass early

SEGMENT 6:
- fight Waka
- clear the mist in taka pass
- get to kusa village
- help Fuse
- find four dogs
- fight the fifth dog
- get to taka pass
- activate taka pass mermaid spring
- bomb cutter's roof
- wait till night
- rescue the little bird from the cutters
- get to sasa sanctuary
- help mr. bamboo and the dancing bird
- learn watersprout
- fight the sasa sanctuary dog
- get a mermaid coin from mr. bamboo on your way back
- warp to agata forest
- help Kushi
- fish with Kokari
- learn crescent
- fight the agata forest dog
- buy 11 mermaid coins
- warp to shinshu field
- get to kamiki village
- win the turnip digging game (manipulate the time of day if you must) and show the last turnip to the little kid
- fight the kamiki village dog (it has to be night)
- return to shinshu field
- warp to taka pass
- get to kusa village
- get to gale shrine
- complete gale shrine as usual up untill you get galestorm
- exit gale shrine
- get to taka pass
- get to city checkpoint
- save

SEGMENT 7:
- ryoshima coast early
- save

SEGMENT 8:
- clear the mist in ryoshima coast
- get to the dojo without lilypad
- learn double jump
- get to sei'an city
- skip water puzzle
- talk to Rao
- get Rao's paper slips
- get to sei'an's exit
- save

SEGMENT 9:
- get to ryoshima coast
- get on the moon turret and cast crescent
- get into the sunken ship
- get to the treasure room
- lucky mallet early
- suicide at the water dragon scene
- get to sei'an city
- skip water puzzle again
- get to the imperial gardens
- complete the imperial gardens as usual up untill you get mist
- exit the imperial gardens
- get to sei'an's exit
- save

SEGMENT 10:
- get to ryoshima coast
- north ryoshima coast early
- watcher's cape early
- activate the entrance to the dragon kingdom
- get Orca
- get to the dragon kingdom
- save

SEGMENT 11:
- water dragon early
- complete the water dragon
- talk to Otohime
- save

SEGMENT 12:
- get to north ryoshima coast
- get to ryoshima coast
- use the secret entrance to sei'an city (trigger the only required cutscene)
- get to Himiko's palace
- get to Himiko without the fire tablet
- fight evil Rao
- exit Himiko's palace without the fire tablet
- get to sei'an's exit
- save

SEGMENT 13:
- get to ryoshima coast
- get to north ryoshima coast
- watcher's cape early
- talk to Otohime
- get to oni island
- skip the fire fountain without the fire tablet
- get onto oni island's walls without the fire tablet
- get to oni fortress
- save

SEGMENT 14:
- 2nd floor early
- get exorcism key
- skip the first gate on your way back
- open the second gate
- learn thunderstorm
- head back to the place where you used a exorcism key
- save

SEGMENT 15:
- get pass main gate early
- get to the 2d part as usual
- activate the mechanism
- get to 2nd floor
- get to 3rd floor early
- complete the rest of the 2d part as usual
- save

SEGMENT 16:
- get lightning key
- get to the room with a hanging spider
- little tower early
- get exorcism key
- open the gate
- race with Tobi
- oni fortress roof early
- fight Ninetails
- save

SEGMENT 17:
- activate north ryoshima coast mermaid spring
- warp to shinshu field
- kamui early
- skip the fight with Oki
- clear the mist in kamui
- skip the igloo turtle fight
- get to wep'keer
- save

SEGMENT 18:
- ezofuji early
- get to wawku shrine entrance
- save

SEGMENT 19:
- wawku shrine early
- 2nd floor early
- 3rd floor without catwalk
- get through the cannons and spinning wheels part
- save

SEGMENT 20:
- get outside
- golden cannon area early
- destroy the golden cannon
- complete the room with burning spinning wheels without blizzard
- fight Nechku and Lechku
- save

SEGMENT 21:
- complete the ark of yamato

So basically I finished the testing/planning phase and I'm ready to record. Additionally, Mike allowed me to use String of Beads in a run. It should save tons of time at the ark of yamato. And as you probably already know, the run should be done in a couple of days :).

sarou

2007-08-19 01:11:57 pm

one-armed bandit

cant wait :p

Chunky

2007-08-19 03:14:58 pm

Quick question: Does the glitched graphics in your game detract any from the visual experience?

groobo

2007-08-19 08:50:44 pm

boss

Quote:

Quick question: Does the glitched graphics in your game detract any from the visual experience?

The glitched graphics at shinshu field that last for like 20 seconds? No, not at all.

Chunky

2007-08-21 01:30:29 am

Oh. The comments made me think they were there for a while.

groobo

2007-08-24 06:40:18 pm

boss

My PS2 gave up on me, it won't read any DVDs any more :(. It'll probably take some time before it gets fixed. Anyway, here are the only segments that I've managed to record (MQ vids):

segment 1 - http://files.filefront.com/ng+part1+MQavi/;8390951;;/fileinfo.html
segment 2 - http://files.filefront.com/ng+part2+MQavi/;8391007;;/fileinfo.html

slowbro

2007-08-24 09:54:48 pm

Groobo makes the sequence breaks like the one at the beginning of segment 2 look easy, but believe me, they're not Shocked

Plus everything else is so smooth; it's fun to watch Groobo play Okami. This is the Okami run to watch (well along with the SS if Groobo ever decides to submit one of those), though 97% of the marathon one already up is very good too.

Argg0

2007-10-07 02:55:39 am

Hmm... pie?

My bad about last post, I should have checked if the site had it already...

groobo

2007-10-14 08:37:13 am

boss

Here's some progress:

segment 3
segment 4
segment 5
segment 6 part1
segment 6 part2
segment 7

The next portion of vids will come when I get to oni island and that'll be it with the public updates.

Kyle

2007-10-18 12:17:55 am

Hey, just wanted to say that this improved New Game+ run is looking pretty awesome. I also saw most of the original 2:50 one, and that was really good as well. How on earth do you pull off the Karmic transformer glitch so easily though? Using it to climb steep slopes is easy enough, but I can never consistently do the mid-air version to climb up walls.

groobo

2007-10-18 05:55:08 pm

boss

Quote:

... but I can never consistently do the mid-air version to climb up walls.

You can't do it consistently. It just takes a shit load of attempts.

Kyle

2007-10-19 01:55:46 am

Well...yeah. Most of those segments must be really frustrating then. I've been trying to figure out a way to do it consistently by timing the jumps or dashes or whatever, and at one point I thought I had something, but in different areas it wouldn't work at all. I'm thinking it might have more to do with when you press square.

Also, I've been looking at that route for Oni Island. If it's the same as the one in the original run, wouldn't you be able to save some time by going around the island, directly to the thunderstorm area, and continuing from there?

groobo

Edit history:

groobo: 2007-11-18 12:54:04 pm

2007-10-19 04:39:41 am

boss

The kt glitch works like this: if you press square at the first frame you get back to the game after closing the menu, you dash. So you can't learn the timing and there's no way to do it consistently because the delay between closing the menu and getting back to the game is random. You can't even do it consistently with an autofire controller, hell, for me it's easier to do it the normal way, mashing square.

And as for oni island, you can't get into the castle in any other way than the main gate at the bottom area. Don't worry, shit like that was already tested :P.

edit: There aren't much people watching, but here's the last portion of public updates for the ones who will.

segment 8
segment 9
segment 10
segment 11
segment 12
segment 13

I hope to finish the run by the end of the year.

The kt glitch works like this: if you press square at the first frame you get back to the game after closing the menu, you dash. So you can't learn the timing and there's no way to do it consistently because the delay between closing the menu and getting back to the game is random. You can't even do it consistently with an autofire controller, hell, for me it's easier to do it the normal way, mashing square.

And as for oni island, you can't get into the castle in any other way than the main gate at the bottom area. Don't worry, shit like that was already tested :P.

edit: There aren't much people watching, but here's the last portion of public updates for the ones who will.

[url=http://files.filefront.com/ng+part8+MQavi/;8794420;/fileinfo.html]segment 8[/url]
[url=http://files.filefront.com/ng+part9+MQavi/;8844655;/fileinfo.html]segment 9[/url]
[url=http://files.filefront.com/ng+part10+MQavi/;8870685;/fileinfo.html]segment 10[/url]
[url=http://files.filefront.com/ng+part11+MQavi/;9069305;/fileinfo.html]segment 11[/url]
[url=http://files.filefront.com/ng+part12+MQavi/;9069327;/fileinfo.html]segment 12[/url]
[url=http://files.filefront.com/ng+part13+MQavi/;9069352;/fileinfo.html]segment 13[/url]

I hope to finish the run by the end of the year.

CannibalK9

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CannibalK9: 2007-11-20 03:14:28 pm

2007-11-20 09:37:13 am

give me your eyes!!!

I've never played the game but I watched the entirety of Tom Batchelor's storyline inclusive run, so I've been anticipating a speedrun since. The applications of that glitch are incredible, even a first time viewer would know that some serious breaks are going on. Hearing you say how random it is then watching you do it three times in a row to scale a wall is extremely impressive. Everything else is tight too; planning obviously went into everything from jumping to brushstrokes. Can't wait for the rest!

groobo

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groobo: 2008-03-17 07:23:44 am

2008-02-18 06:56:53 am

boss

Ok, I have some bad news...

I had this run done, the last thing for me was to upload the videos and submit it. Some days ago I lent a friend my ps2 together with my memory card. In the process I decided to redo the last segment when I get my ps2 back, so I erased the video. And of course, yesterday I got my ps2 back, with my memory card missing... I won't stand even looking at this game if it won't get found...

edit: Since oob glitches are allowed now, there's some hope for me to finish a decent ng+ run after all. I'll still be looking for some oob solutions for most parts of the game, but in case I won't find anything new I'll be shooting for sub 1:50. Yeah, more than 40 minutes will be shaved from the run I "finished" lately. Oh and I bought two memory cards this time, so that I can backup my progress...

Keige

2008-03-31 11:17:13 pm

I know I'm bumping a month old topic, but Okami for the Wii is coming out soon and I'm really excited about the run you're doing right now.

groobo

2008-04-01 02:48:06 pm

boss

Well, maybe not right now, but I'll get to it in the can't-say-near future.

Chunky

2008-04-26 12:18:59 am

Okay, I own the Wii version, and I must say that from being able to skip all cutscenes alone, a good hour might be cut off your time.

No1 Inparticular

Edit history:

No1 Inparticular: 2008-04-26 01:08:05 pm

2008-04-26 03:05:26 am

Quote:

Okay, I own the Wii version, and I must say that from being able to skip all cutscenes alone, a good hour might be cut off your time.

Wait,are you saying that you can skip the scenes in the Wii version without new game plus? If this is what your saying, a good few hours can be taken off the NG time, not like it matters now since no one will probably go back to that with NG+ out there.

groobo

2008-04-26 07:42:24 am

boss

The wii version fresh new game would go down to about 4:30 with the sequence breaks that don't need any karmic transformers. I'm taking my run down as soon as I complete my NG+ which will beat the crap out of all the other categories since an out of the box run isn't needed anymore.

Wally Jenkins

2008-06-08 07:11:19 am

Bah! I really want to watch the filefront vids, but I can't seem to get to them correctly via the links. Help?