Wasn't there some other way to get in without a boundary glitch? I remember reading it somewhere...
I'm sorry; I meant that there was no SDA legal way in. I thought that that boundary glitch wasn't allowed.
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Speed is the key.
There's no way (that I know of) to enter the water temple without the hookshot without leaving the game world. Radix didn't allow the "Domain --> Lake" glitch, so he certainly wouldn't allow the laboratory glitch.
I think I should stick with AA's route, I don't want to change the route after I've started running, it's so complex so changing it could easily ruin something under the surface. That's the reason why I played though the route before I started running; to see if everything worked out.
I think I should stick with AA's route, I don't want to change the route after I've started running, it's so complex so changing it could easily ruin something under the surface. That's the reason why I played though the route before I started running; to see if everything worked out.
Speed is the key.
Segment 9
Sorry about the sound, I don't know what I did wrong.
Got the cucco jump on my third attempt, spent almost no time aligning, though. I didn't have to wait for the guards to move, either.
What bothers me is that I couldn't find a consistent way to do the jump. Sometimes I get it, sometimes I don't, even though I'm doing exactly the same thing. Too much randomness for my taste.
I have to move on with the run.
Edit: I finished a very good segment 10... it has something like 3 seconds of mistakes but otherwise almost perfect. I lost those 3 seconds when going for the skulltula in the rock structure.
I think it's more important for me to work on the next segment that's really hard, than spending time trying to shave off those seconds.
What do you guys think?
Sorry about the sound, I don't know what I did wrong.
Got the cucco jump on my third attempt, spent almost no time aligning, though. I didn't have to wait for the guards to move, either.
What bothers me is that I couldn't find a consistent way to do the jump. Sometimes I get it, sometimes I don't, even though I'm doing exactly the same thing. Too much randomness for my taste.
I have to move on with the run.
Edit: I finished a very good segment 10... it has something like 3 seconds of mistakes but otherwise almost perfect. I lost those 3 seconds when going for the skulltula in the rock structure.
I think it's more important for me to work on the next segment that's really hard, than spending time trying to shave off those seconds.
What do you guys think?
Segment 9: Except for 3 attempts at the jump, it was a very good segment. The sound was a bit low, yea, but i just put the speakers loud and it was okay (until someone signed into msn and i nearly fell off my chair ::))
As for segment 10, i don't think 3 seconds is something you should really loose sleep over. I'd just go on with the run.
As for segment 10, i don't think 3 seconds is something you should really loose sleep over. I'd just go on with the run.
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What bothers me is that I couldn't find a consistent way to do the jump. Sometimes I get it, sometimes I don't, even though I'm doing exactly the same thing. Too much randomness for my taste.
What I do to get the jump everytime is I go align myself with the right side of the triangle pole (facing it) then I walk forward to the very tip of it, then I turn around 180 degrees. You should be at the very tip of the pole and lined up with the guard infront of the fence. Then all you do is tilt the analog stick diagonal right.
Should work everytime.
Note: You can reach the skulltula that's on the hill thing in Desert Collosus by seam walking up the side of the hill.
Speed is the key.
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What I do to get the jump everytime is I go align myself with the right side of the triangle pole (facing it) then I walk forward to the very tip of it, then I turn around 180 degrees. You should be at the very tip of the pole and lined up with the guard infront of the fence. Then all you do is tilt the analog stick diagonal right.
Should work everytime.
It would take long to align like that, since you can't go into first person view when holding a cucco. I'll stick with the segment I got.
Anyway...
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Segment 10
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The next segment will be hell. I will have big trouble staying alive and keeping my shield from burning up. This will be harder than the cucco jump segment.
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I can do it super fast. Just practice it. It's easy.
Segment 10 was awesome. Only mistake that I could find was you had to go into first person to line up before you back walked across the quicksand. You should be able to just run up, turn around, and backwalk.
Tip for Spirit Temple child: When you get to the room with the Stalfos and the green skull thing, I find it easy to use a Deku Nut to stun the Stalfos as soon as I enter, then go to the side and use Slingshot on the switch. If you aim the Deku Nut a little to the right of the Stalfos, sometimes you can nmb both of the enemies.
This helps prevent the Stalfos from hitting you while aiming for the switch.
Segment 10 was awesome. Only mistake that I could find was you had to go into first person to line up before you back walked across the quicksand. You should be able to just run up, turn around, and backwalk.
Tip for Spirit Temple child: When you get to the room with the Stalfos and the green skull thing, I find it easy to use a Deku Nut to stun the Stalfos as soon as I enter, then go to the side and use Slingshot on the switch. If you aim the Deku Nut a little to the right of the Stalfos, sometimes you can nmb both of the enemies.
This helps prevent the Stalfos from hitting you while aiming for the switch.
Hardcore. I know it's a bit sad that there were those errors with the jump, but it's one of the hardest tricks in the run. The rest of the reaching child spirit early went really well. Child spirit itself could be pretty tricky, but I'm sure it will work out, and after that you have easier segments up until Dampe's Gravedigging Tour.
Yes, a cucco riding the ground.
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You can see all the errors in segment 9 easily.
Segment 10:
-You used the slow sidehop method for the gate skip. If you just hold Z (L on Gamecube) while jumping off the ladder and then move back and to the right on the cliff and sidehop, you'll get to the right area quicker.
-The lineup for the quicksand backwalk was a tad slow, but the actual backwalk was fast with the sidehop.
-You were a bit slow throwing the boomerang.
-The planting and Skulltula retrieval were well-done.
You can see all the errors in segment 9 easily.
Segment 10:
-You used the slow sidehop method for the gate skip. If you just hold Z (L on Gamecube) while jumping off the ladder and then move back and to the right on the cliff and sidehop, you'll get to the right area quicker.
-The lineup for the quicksand backwalk was a tad slow, but the actual backwalk was fast with the sidehop.
-You were a bit slow throwing the boomerang.
-The planting and Skulltula retrieval were well-done.
Speed is the key.
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-You used the slow sidehop method for the gate skip. If you just hold Z (L on Gamecube) while jumping off the ladder and then move back and to the right on the cliff and sidehop, you'll get to the right area quicker.
It doesn't really matter when I reach that area, I still have to travel the same distance. It might very well be faster though, because of other reasons.
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-The lineup for the quicksand backwalk was a tad slow, but the actual backwalk was fast with the sidehop.
Yeah, still, it's a minor thing.
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-You were a bit slow throwing the boomerang.
I know and it's totally inexcusable. I have no idea why I turned around there...
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-The planting and Skulltula retrieval were well-done.
Doin' my best.
Fluffy Kitten: I know that you can seamwalk to that skulltula, but I have other (faster) plans for it.
So... I did Segment 11...
Everything went smooth except when I was about to climb to the last small key chest, where I got hit. The aiming at the last skulltula was actually very slow, but it was something like a precaution. Sometimes when I aim too fast, I can fire a volley of slingshot bullets without even thinking. I need better self control.
Phew, I've now done three of the child dungeons. Only two to go (if you count the Bottom of the Well)!
Speed is the key.
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-Are there any N64 glitches that dont work on the GCN version?
There are some version specific glitches that only work on the 1.0/1.1 N64 version, but those glitches are banned at SDA. Everything that works in the 1.2 N64 version works in the GCN version.
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-Is Crooked Cartridge allowed?
Nope.
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-How did you know your way through the desert on segment 10? o_O
Practice.
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Only thing I could find to criticize about it is that I noticed you're a below average aimer (like you said).
Not really.
I can aim twice as fast, but it's very risky to do in a such intense (also pretty long) segment. It ruined so many segments because I always did hit the target, but I spent too many deku seeds. As you could probably see, I ended the segment with only two shots left. Also, the spirit temple involves more slingshot shooting than any other child dungeon.
The Nabooru dialogue at the start of each segment isn't fun, either. I'd rather be a second slower at aiming than lose the entire segment.
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The Nabooru dialogue at the start of each segment isn't fun, either. I'd rather be a second slower at aiming than lose the entire segment.
Speaking of which, is there any way to cancel the ability to speak to people, but still be able to do other actions? If so, I wonder if it's possible to walk past Nabooru and go right into the tunnel...
I know that as an adult, if you do the Swordless Link glitch then get on then off Epona using a Deku Nut or the Ocarina you can walk through rocks, trees, and people. Maybe something similar can be done as a child with the Swordless Link glitch?
Speed is the key.
Thanks for your comments everyone.
I went ahead and did Segment 12 too. It's nothing fancy, just the trip to Dodongo's Cavern. I swing by the Mask Shop, too.
Now, when I do Dodongo's... I guess I have to pull of Acryte's Bomb Bag early trick. I'll settle for 4 bombchus (I have 5 to spend), because doing it with 3 bombchus seems to be extremely hard.
Any instructions on how to do that stuff with the slingshot/bombchu/sword glitch is appreciated. For example; Where do I activate the sword glitch?
I went ahead and did Segment 12 too. It's nothing fancy, just the trip to Dodongo's Cavern. I swing by the Mask Shop, too.
Now, when I do Dodongo's... I guess I have to pull of Acryte's Bomb Bag early trick. I'll settle for 4 bombchus (I have 5 to spend), because doing it with 3 bombchus seems to be extremely hard.
Any instructions on how to do that stuff with the slingshot/bombchu/sword glitch is appreciated. For example; Where do I activate the sword glitch?