Naruto Shippuuden Ultimate Ninja Storm 3: Full Burst

2014-01-10 08:22:17 am

Hey everyone!

Just created my account here and wanted to ask: Are there people who would like to see a Naruto Shippuuden Ultimate Ninja Storm 3: Full Burst run?
I feel like the game is good to run, especially as a newbie since there is not much glitching etc. to be done but fighting skills are important.

I would start one and upload it. Will need people to verify the run though Smiley

Also: If there are no glitches, bugs etc. to be abused: Does it actually count as a speedrun?

Kind Regards,
ttoMephisto / Dirk

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Softman25

2014-01-10 06:19:30 pm

The objective of a speedrun is to get through the game as fast as possible.

Whether there are glitches or not is irrelevant. (So yes, it is still a speedrun)

ttoMephisto

2014-01-10 06:41:30 pm

Hey,

Thanks for the quick reply!

I uploaded a quality check to see if it's okay like that. No feedback yet though :/

Raikou99

2014-01-12 07:52:52 am

Tomba! YA YA YA

A speed-run of this would be incredibly interesting, just wondering how broken the boss battles could really be Tongue

ttoMephisto

2014-01-12 08:08:42 am

Well to be honest i don't think the boss battles will be incredibly broken... Most battles can be won pretty fast an easily though.

I uploaded a quality check in the tech support but no one confirmed it yet :/

Will certainly get some splits for it. Will split from fight to fight i guess. Not sure on how to record it though, think it will be like 2 1/2 hours or more. And that file is just insanely huge..

Raikou99

2014-01-12 08:23:15 am

Tomba! YA YA YA

I record all PC games using NVIDIA Shadowplay, if you have a NVIDIA card (GTX 650 series or higher), it might be worth using it over FRAPS, with Shadowplay the recordings i make end up being about half the size of FRAPS recordings, allowing me to record a full run before having to convert to a more compressed format

ttoMephisto

2014-01-12 08:26:21 am

Yeah i have a nVidia, will go and check it out! Thanks for the hint! Also: Do i get the timer with the splits in the recording then?

Raikou99

2014-01-12 08:31:24 am

Tomba! YA YA YA

Oh, nah it doesn't, there's no way to add splits that i know of either. I'm just using it for raw recordings at this stage

ttoMephisto

2014-01-12 08:32:36 am

It won't work anyway. I have a nvidia of the 400 series (PC is now 3 years old i think)...

Will go and have a look at all the other recording programs, camtasia etc. Because it's just insane how a 17minute recording already takes like 17GB or so

ttoMephisto

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ttoMephisto: 2014-01-13 08:10:28 am

2014-01-12 12:34:59 pm

Alright, recorded it with OBS. Quality is rather poor sadly :/ Forgot to set it higher for the run.

Will upload the video or file tomorrow i guess. I had some good, mediocre and really bad fights. Also the last fight is something that can kill any run as far as i can tell right now. I mean, hey! You almost defeated Tobi, we will put you back to the Bijuus. -_- Really grinds my gears.

These are the splits:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/cf9pqe78r7acrv6/Naruto+Splits+%28PB%29

Note: Whenever possible I chose "Legendary" for Ultimate Decisions.

I would consider this "Legendary any%" Cheesy

Edit: I will not upload the run. i am literally ashamed of the quality. will do another one today. using the old splits as comparison though

ttoMephisto

2014-01-13 11:26:42 am

Just did my run, and got sub 3hour Smiley

All fights pretty good, some rather okay-ish. I think if you get perfect fights only you could have around 2:50h, maybe even less Smiley

Encoding the video right now, will upload it together with splits

Oblimix

2014-02-03 10:26:44 am

You got a video of that sub 3hours?
Would really like to see it.

I did a semi-blind speedrun not too long ago, and there's this other guy who runs it occasionally too.

Valegator

2014-07-18 12:26:33 am

BroHoof /)*(\

I did a run of this game on pc. Not very strong one though. So it took me about 3 hours to get to second battle against 6 beasts(lag and load times included). Then power went out and I lost everything. Next time I run this game I'll finish it, and after that start looking for exploits in boss fights.

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Valegator: 2014-07-19 01:30:13 am

2014-07-19 01:29:19 am

BroHoof /)*(\

The float glitch would be useful in glitched run. I found a way how to get Masked Man and Gedo Statue(Boss Fight) in AI loop.
Vs Masked Man: When battle starts use ninjutsu then charge chakra until he gets up. He'll start running towards you, then use stronger ninjutsu by holding B(or O), and repeat. If performed successfully. He will never do a thing and you can just bash him till hes dead.
Vs Gedo Statue: At the start use chakra dash to get close. Then use Guard Break. Choji will lift statue and throw it, that puts statue in ko state now get to him and B(or O) QTE will show use it. Then statue will get up, get close to him and use guard break again(you need to time it), and repeat.
Also the most important thing ever in game there are cutscenes that cant be skipped and they look just like skippeble cutscenes but there is a way to know witch one can be skipped. The cutscenes that can be skipped have subtitles, even if you turn off subtitles in options. By turning subtitles on / off you only enable / disable subtitles in cutscenes that cant be skipped. So turn them off and make your skipping easier.

The float glitch would be useful in glitched run. I found a way how to get Masked Man and Gedo Statue(Boss Fight) in AI loop.
Vs Masked Man: When battle starts use ninjutsu then charge chakra until he gets up. He'll start running towards you, then use stronger ninjutsu by holding B(or O), and repeat. If performed successfully. He will never do a thing and you can just bash him till hes dead.
Vs Gedo Statue: At the start use chakra dash to get close. Then use Guard Break. Choji will lift statue and throw it, that puts statue in ko state now get to him and B(or O) QTE will show use it. Then statue will get up, get close to him and use guard break again(you need to time it), and repeat.
[u][b]Also the most important thing ever[/b][/u] in game there are cutscenes that cant be skipped and they look just like skippeble cutscenes but there is a way to know witch one can be skipped. The cutscenes that can be skipped have subtitles, even if you turn off subtitles in options. By turning subtitles on / off you only enable / disable subtitles in cutscenes that cant be skipped. So turn them off and make your skipping easier.

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Valegator

2014-07-19 09:13:15 am

BroHoof /)*(\

also its faster to alternate between Hero and Legend for some fights example. It's faster to pick Hero on most fights cause AI is easier but there is an exception. When Guy, Lee and Sakura fight 6 Swordsman its actually faster to pick Legend and fight all 7 of them at once.
Reason for that is on Legend you have to fight 6 all at once and after that you fight Zabuza(2 fights total). If you pick Hero you fight 1 Swordsman as Sakura, 2 as Sakura, 3 as Guy and Zabuza(4 fights total). So by picking Legend you skip 2 fight, 2 unskippeble cutscenes and 2 loadings(I'm not sure if there is any difference in length of Sakuras, Guys and Lees ultimate jutsu.). + legend fight is easy just attack them with B/O untill you can use YYB/△△O then use it, and you should have knocked out at least 2 of swordsman got to theme press B/O to use ultimate jutsu witch will knock out 2 more swords man.
Avoid finishing off opponents with ultimate jutsu cause you'll get that image with dialog that waists time.
For normal fights(against AI's that dont have boss HP) I recommend using Ultimate jutsu 2 times and the finish with ninjutsu of normal attack.
In boss fights avoid secret action and getting secret factor. They are huge time waister. When you get quick time events in boss fights, you can fail them all without penalty, except for ones with timer those will damage you and make you repeat them. When you do activate QTE's with timers try to activate them as late as possible so that you get 1 star.

also its faster to alternate between Hero and Legend for some fights example. It's faster to pick Hero on most fights cause AI is easier but there is an exception. When Guy, Lee and Sakura fight 6 Swordsman its actually faster to pick Legend and fight all 7 of them at once.
Reason for that is on Legend you have to fight 6 all at once and after that you fight Zabuza(2 fights total). If you pick Hero you fight 1 Swordsman as Sakura, 2 as Sakura, 3 as Guy and Zabuza(4 fights total). So by picking Legend you skip 2 fight, 2 unskippeble cutscenes and 2 loadings(I'm not sure if there is any difference in length of Sakuras, Guys and Lees ultimate jutsu.). + legend fight is easy just attack them with B/O untill you can use YYB/△△O then use it, and you should have knocked out at least 2 of swordsman got to theme press B/O to use ultimate jutsu witch will knock out 2 more swords man. 
Avoid finishing off opponents with ultimate jutsu cause you'll get that image with dialog that waists time.
For normal fights(against AI's that dont have boss HP) I recommend using Ultimate jutsu 2 times and the finish with ninjutsu of normal attack.
In boss fights avoid secret action and getting secret factor. They are huge time waister. When you get quick time events in boss fights, you can fail them all without penalty, except for ones with timer those will damage you and make you repeat them. When you do activate QTE's with timers try to activate them as late as possible so that you get 1 star.

kiskebear

2014-07-19 11:48:25 am

Quote from Valegator:

When you do activate QTE's with timers try to activate them as late as possible so that you get 1 star.

Hey guys - newbie on teh forums. Can you explain this further Valegator? I woulda thought that waiting a few extra seconds (just for 1 star) would be worse. I mean, take the Sasuke fight for example - after you start running along the rock wall etc, there are maybe 3 or 4? surely hitting them faster is better? (ends it faster etc)?

Btw - is there a list of the current records for this game? (a google doc or something)?

-Kiske

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Valegator: 2014-07-19 12:25:43 pm

2014-07-19 12:23:26 pm

BroHoof /)*(\

If you get all stars you wil get a secret factor witch is basicly unskippeble cut scene
Though you gave me a idea
I'll replay boss fights and figure out how many qtes can we pop and not get secret factor
Sorry for the messy post i'm using a phone amd its hard to see what am i wrighting

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kiskebear

2014-07-19 09:34:54 pm

There was a guy on twitch (VolpeGaming) who claims he has the any% WR I'm still testing specific things against his run - but so far even though I've been doing the secret factor stuff I still seem to make time xD.
Also I read someone above saying something about a "legendary any%" - would such a thing work? there are some fights where its legit faster to be on legendary, and some where its just faster to be on hero - for example, sasuke legendary is faster - zabuza legendary route is faster, shouldnt it just be an any% thing with no choice restriction?

-Kiske

Valegator

2014-07-20 12:56:21 am

BroHoof /)*(\

You can have Legendary any% but the time cant compare to any% or Hero any% cause it would be different category.
Can you explain how Sasuke legendary is faster? I thought that hero and legendary took the same time.
And don't worry about QTE's I'll get those figured out. Just need to fix my LGP so that I can record it. It's corrupting the sound for some reason, it didn't do that a few weeks ago when I recorded fight with Madara. Oh yeah Madara legendary is faster cause you can tell other kage to attack him. My strats for Madara are fight him normally till he gets susano. Then dive kick magatamas and bash his face when B/O shows up and tell other kage to to attack as well for tones of damage. I'll also count how many hits we can get in before he knocks you away. That knock back waists about 4-5 sec.

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kiskebear: 2014-07-20 06:36:03 am

2014-07-20 02:19:12 am

Sasuke legendary is faster because of the AI loop. It's almost exactly the same as the AI behind the masked man encounter - that is to say (all 3 times ive done this + my original play through) a rasengan -> giant rasengan -> giant rasengan kind of repetitious combo is entirely possible. However against little sasuke (which ive only done twice) it seems that the AI is more likely to dodge out of it (or block it) this is just what I've found - it could just be anything.

Edit about the Sasuke Legendary v hero path for any% - Yes, this means triggering the secret, and while im fairly sure it doesnt lose you time - it does mean you have to make sure you get 1 star on some of the QTEs later. All in all - im still tossing this up, it may not actually be as good as I originally thought xD.

that'd be awesome valegator! i'd love to know how many hits you can get in coz Madara is my worst fight >_>

and yeah that makes sense about the runs. i assume its legendary all legendary, hero all hero, and any is just, as it comes?

I also did some testing on your suggestion for getting 1 star.
On the sasuke encounter - i was 4 small stars short of full, and i believe it saved me like, 15 seconds or so, after taking out the extra seconds for waiting longer to push (its about 1.5 seconds per delayed qte), so i think it might still be ideal? (more solid research/testing to come xD)

Sasuke legendary is faster because of the AI loop. It's almost exactly the same as the AI behind the masked man encounter  - that is to say (all 3 times ive done this + my original play through) a rasengan -> giant rasengan -> giant rasengan kind of repetitious combo is entirely possible. However against little sasuke (which ive only done twice) it seems that the AI is more likely to dodge out of it (or block it) this is just what I've found - it could just be anything.

Edit about the Sasuke Legendary v hero path for any% - Yes, this means triggering the secret, and while im fairly sure it doesnt lose you time - it does mean you have to make sure you get 1 star on some of the QTEs later. All in all - im still tossing this up, it may not actually be as good as I originally thought xD.

that'd be awesome valegator! i'd love to know how many hits you can get in coz Madara is my worst fight >_>

and yeah that makes sense about the runs. i assume its legendary all legendary, hero all hero, and any is just, as it comes?

I also did some testing on your suggestion for getting 1 star.
On the sasuke encounter - i was 4 small stars short of full, and i believe it saved me like, 15 seconds or so, after taking out the extra seconds for waiting longer to push (its about 1.5 seconds per delayed qte), so i think it might still be ideal? (more solid research/testing to come xD)

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2014-07-20 07:25:34 am

BroHoof /)*(\

If your wondering which video I was talking about, its this one:
I made it to show how well Storm 3 runs on my pc. I'm playing this on Samsung 350E5X-S01RS laptop with 4GB DDR3 RAM, Radeon HD 7670M and Intel pentium(DuoCore) B970 2.30GHz.

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Valegator: 2014-07-20 07:29:32 am

2014-07-20 07:29:11 am

BroHoof /)*(\

Oh and I almost forgot on pc when you select New game but you already finished game(or played it) it won't reset your in game timer(the one that shows up when you press start). So I made a save file that has nothing but a New game option. This will reset your ingame timer to 0 but it will also erase all your progress you make sure you back up your main save. Here you can get Storm3 0% save

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NS3 0% Save.zip