MGS4 (1:32:56 by Bonobodu28) - Glitch finding by TheThrillness/Magnum66

2009-03-17 04:43:12 pm

@ Mosiac-J

Very nice improvement mate, cant wit to see your final time. I have been taken away from mgs4 yet again this time its resident evil 5 and street fighter IV!!

Mosaic-J

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Mosaic-J: 2009-03-18 12:46:58 pm

2009-03-17 05:53:56 pm

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

@ hillza

Thanks mate. I've made some tweaks in Crescent Meridian & managed to slash 2 seconds off of my previous best. I've just got to complete some more tests in Millennium Park. I'm aiming to have the vid up tomorrow (GMT)

The link will be posted here as usual.

@ Marco H

I don't know how much your imitating Cosmos but I'm guessing you have changed his weapon replacement order. It's easily done. Especially if you are playing on a small screen. It can be hard to see the weapons assigned to the letters. If this is the case, increase the icon sizes in the Options menu to check. Double check your old saves too. You will probably find where you went wrong. I would recommend testing the weapon replacement scheme where necessary. Also, from what I hear & have seen (I haven't done extensive testing) the Operator does not get replaced at all unless you choose to replace it.

Here it is: Part 3:-

hillza

2009-03-19 01:33:32 am

Great time mate really impressive, beat Adnan by 7 minutes lol great job.

Mosaic-J

2009-03-19 01:57:46 am

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

@ hillza

Thanks mate. I will begin experimenting in Act 2 today. I really like Act 2's setting. It will be a nice change after playing Act 1 for so long.

Mosaic-J

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Mosaic-J: 2009-03-28 03:27:09 pm

2009-03-28 03:24:09 am

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

I didn't particularly want to double post but the forum has been very quite recently & so it's likely this would of gone unnoticed.

Update:

I have done loads of testing now of various ideas/methods for Act 2. Nearly all of Act 2's sections are finalised. This means there will be 3 videos (the entire Act 2) uploaded within days rather than weeks. I had to jump as far ahead as Act 4 to check various things. I also had to check Act 3. Decisions I make now will affect situations later on. Thankfully I kept my old Clear Game run saves for that very reason. Anyway, I should have Act 2: Part 1 uploaded today. The link will be posted as an edit to this post. Look for it soon. Please read the vid's info section to find out more detail. I've managed to come up with a plan to save major time on Raging Raven too.

hillza

2009-03-28 06:36:14 am

Awesome I look forward to it I am really into street fighter 4 atm so wont be on mgs4 for a while.

Mosaic-J

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Mosaic-J: 2009-03-28 08:31:48 pm

2009-03-28 07:56:02 pm

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

A little later than expected, but here it is:-

Act 2: Part 1:

metallicaband

2009-03-29 08:06:47 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Amazing progress Mosaic-J, the short time it took you to figure out strategies that are very hard to beat is very impressive. Hope Take-Chan would see some of your videos, it might interest him into start running MGS4 NG!!

Keep it up man, even though I'm not posting here much these days (been doing lots of online gaming lately), I'm still following your progress and very excited about watching your NG speedrun videos.

Mosaic-J

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Mosaic-J: 2009-04-02 09:50:06 am

2009-03-29 08:41:03 am

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

Thanks mate. I really appreciate the feedback Smiley

I'm glad to hear you're still keeping an eye on it Wink

I will, I have no intention of letting up.

EDIT:-

I've just performed my final test for Act 2: Part 2. It's already encoded. I'm uploading now. I will post the link here very shortly.

I've just had a rough test on Raven again to gauge the time needed to beat her. My plan will enable me to beat her very fast Wink

Asphyx1ateD

2009-04-02 11:51:00 am

Hey guys, just thought I'd stop by to see what kinda progress everyone was making. The new record is mightily impressive... when I set the record at 1:55:45 I didn't think anything below 1:45 would be possible, lol, but I guess it has been a considerable amount of time since I did it. I haven't played since setting the record, and that was on the 7th August last year. Time flies... but tbh my last run killed my interest in playing MGS4 for a long time.

Good luck with the new runs whoever is still competing.

Mosaic-J

2009-04-02 12:39:19 pm

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

Here it is:-

Act 2: Part 2:-

@ Asphyx1ated

Long time no speak! How are ya? It's nice to hear from you mate.

hillza

2009-04-02 12:41:06 pm

Quote from Mosaic-J:

Here it is:-

Act 2: Part 2:-

@ Asphyx1ated

Long time no speak! How are ya? It's nice to hear from you mate.

Great methods again mate! I am glad you are keeping this run up the time is gonna be incredible!

Asphyx1ateD

2009-04-02 01:50:16 pm

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@ Asphyx1ated

Long time no speak! How are ya? It's nice to hear from you mate.

Alright mate, I'm good cheers, just been very busy with uni. I'm a film student and spent the last month and a bit shooting and editing a 13 minute film for our course. It's been so draining but it came out pretty well at the end. On Easter break now so I can chill for a few weeks, heh. How about you?

Mosaic-J

2009-04-02 05:47:27 pm

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

@ hillza

Thanks mate. I'm enjoying working on this run just as much as you are watching it Smiley

@ Asphyx1ated

Nice. Sounds interesting mate. Chill? Perhaps you can sample the delights of the games you need to spend more time with now. I remember you had a interest in that Socom game.

I'm good thanks. Currently engrossed in completing my New Game BBE Speedrun.

Darknight_lo

2009-04-02 05:50:13 pm

Has anyone thought of doing a run with special items? It would be the same criteria as a BBE run but without the " no special items rule " with the us of the stealth camouflage I was thinking I might try it. I would like to see one at least, if I tried it though I wouldn't be able to record, I was thinking for a BBE special item game it would be like 1:25:XX, I would be interested in helping anyone who tries.

Asphyx1ateD

2009-04-02 06:50:17 pm

Quote from Mosaic-J:

@ Asphyx1ated

Nice. Sounds interesting mate. Chill? Perhaps you can sample the delights of the games you need to spend more time with now. I remember you had a interest in that Socom game.

I'm good thanks. Currently engrossed in completing my New Game BBE Speedrun.

Yeah I've been playing the new Socom a fair bit, it's pretty decent and been doing quite well. Got some sick scores last night (like 7 MVPs in a row in this one room, getting 23-3 on one map lol). I've been playing quite a few games since MGS4, though; Killzone 2 and Mirror's Edge were the main ones I finished.

And nice, I doubt I can ever enjoy MGS4 again, let alone run it!

hillza

2009-04-03 01:41:05 pm

Quote from Darknight_lo:

Has anyone thought of doing a run with special items? It would be the same criteria as a BBE run but without the " no special items rule " with the us of the stealth camouflage I was thinking I might try it. I would like to see one at least, if I tried it though I wouldn't be able to record, I was thinking for a BBE special item game it would be like 1:25:XX, I would be interested in helping anyone who tries.

It would not be much faster than cosmos run mate, he hardly ever has to stop running.

Darknight_lo

2009-04-03 06:14:11 pm

Yes, however there's always variables you have to take into account. Such as walking with a stun grenade makes you a decent amount slower, with the stealth camo you wouldn't have to use one, these like that will add up and make it fast also things like taking out people that would see you such as the frogs in the Crying Wolf Fight.

metallicaband

2009-04-04 10:47:12 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

The run would be faster in some parts, but I for one don't see where the fun would be in such run, it will not involve much planning since you can literally just run from point A to point B using the fastest route, without much skill involved. Boss battles will require skill, but I still don't find the run as a whole entertaining, that's just my opinion of course.

Mosaic-J, seems like everything's going very well with your NG BBE run seeing how fast you're progressing through it, I still didn't watch ACT 2 Part 2 video (will do very soon), have you considered not using the RT in ACT 3, so you'd submit the run here in SDA? Might want to give that a thought, your run seems very hard to beat and IMO worth being on SDA, specially since no one submitted any MGS4 speedrun here yet.

hillza

2009-04-04 12:37:22 pm

Quote from metallicaband:

Mosaic-J, seems like everything's going very well with your NG BBE run seeing how fast you're progressing through it, I still didn't watch ACT 2 Part 2 video (will do very soon), have you considered not using the RT in ACT 3, so you'd submit the run here in SDA? Might want to give that a thought, your run seems very hard to beat and IMO worth being on SDA, specially since no one submitted any MGS4 speedrun here yet.

I 100% agree with you here it would definately be worthy of submitting, only thing is does he still have every single bit recorded and what the rules be about the segments, I mean would they accept the edited run or would we have to watch every save/load, as that may be kind of frustrating.

Devil_Slider

2009-04-04 12:41:08 pm

Hello everyone Smiley

Héhé, nice to see Asphyx1ateD comes again on this board Wink

@Mosaic-J

Your vids are awesome man, really good work !!! Cheesy

You will kill the actual WR 8)

@Darknight_lo

LoL! I've just make a run in Liquid easy with kills and alerts (there is a lot of time now Tongue

).
And my end time was around 1:32:XX I remember me (maybe 1:31:XX Grin

).
So for a BBE with special items, I don't think it's possible to make a run 1:25:XX Roll Eyes

However I think MGS4 could be finished in under 1:30:00. (A french speedrunner "Sly" or "Snake-the-boss" have a really good time in Normal with a run no kills / no alerts. Around 1:31:XX, I know he beats my L.E. kills/alerts run).
So I'm sure a run in Normal kills / alerts can pass under 1:30:00 8)
(In Normal because in easy Liquid can't be beatten with one of the actual techs. In Normal, the actual techs work perfectly 8) ).

Mosaic-J

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Mosaic-J: 2009-04-09 09:25:34 am

2009-04-04 05:38:36 pm

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

@ metallicaband

Yes, it is going well Smiley

Let me know what you think of Part 2.

My initial intention was to produce a New Game BBE run that would really push & test the NG limits. That intention hasn't changed. I hadn't really thought of submitting the run. Not using the Resistance Trick will jeopardise my overall time & I would really like to see what time I can achieve with it. If SDA had a category for a Segmented BBE run utilising the RT then I might submit it. The only other option would be to complete the run with the RT & then revert back to Act 3 & then complete the game without it for possible submission. But to do that twice has no appeal to me at the moment.

@ hillza

I still have every single segment on my DVD recorder's HDD. They will be on there for a long time as I have no intention of removing them. I will put them on to disc for backup soon though.

@ Devil_Slider

Thanks mate Smiley

There are still plenty of more vids to come. Please keep an eye out for them.

EDIT:

Update:-

Act 2: Part 3 due today or tomorrow.

In the meantime, I have just uploaded the vid for the Confinement Facility right-hand route that I tested but didn't use.

Here's the link:

@ metallicaband

Yes, it is going well :) Let me know what you think of Part 2.

My initial intention was to produce a New Game BBE run that would really push & test the NG limits. That intention hasn't changed. I hadn't really thought of submitting the run. Not using the Resistance Trick will jeopardise my overall time & I would really like to see what time I can achieve with it. If SDA had a category for a Segmented BBE run utilising the RT then I might submit it. The only other option would be to complete the run with the RT & then revert back to Act 3 & then complete the game without it for possible submission. But to do that twice has no appeal to me at the moment.

@ hillza

I still have every single segment on my DVD recorder's HDD. They will be on there for a long time as I have no intention of removing them. I will put them on to disc for backup soon though.

@ Devil_Slider

Thanks mate :) There are still plenty of more vids to come. Please keep an eye out for them.

[b]EDIT:[/b]

[b]Update:-[/b]

Act 2: Part 3 due today or tomorrow.

In the meantime, I have just uploaded the vid for the Confinement Facility right-hand route that I tested but didn't use.

Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caFoDVHlKX8

Mosaic-J

Edit history:

Mosaic-J: 2009-04-11 01:48:20 am

2009-04-10 09:41:35 pm

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

The double post will update the SDA forum index & allow people to know there is a new post.

Here it is:-

Act 2: Part 3:

hillza

2009-04-11 02:44:15 am

Mate this run is fantastic, you are really pushing the limit just like cosmos did for his new game+ run.

Mosaic-J

2009-04-11 02:54:15 am

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

Thanks mate. Smiley