Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

2007-08-30 02:05:13 am

(Z_Z).z.z.Z

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Heh. No one seems to be having much luck sequencing breaking the game. A lot of the movement tricks used to set up breaks in the first two games don't work anymore.

I kind of like it that way, personally. >_>

Really?__? ..there are none, or you none found>__>

When I bought MP2 in the shop, ``Kip ``had already a finished run!...he is crazy<__<

I must wait still two months for the Pal version, but I am pleased*__*

Satoryu

2007-08-30 03:20:12 am

Visually Appealing

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I guess I'll be the first here to simply say that Corruption is off the hook. I'm loving every second of it.

then i'll be the second. the only thing i would've liked better is if Samus actually talked. it's also been a little linear so far.

i'm actually having a hard time ghetto jumping. whenever i try to do it, my second jump doesn't work.

my favorite part of the game so far has to be the Jumpball. i didn't even know it existed until Goffy mentioned it. its also nice to actually start out adequately equipped for once.

Paraxade-notloggedin

2007-08-30 04:12:08 am

Roll jumps and BSJs still work. A good place to try to sequence break might be on Norion (getting to the control tower (jumping over Ghor or something) before activating the generators might allow you to skip most of the planet) or Bryyo (get the other landing sites without Grapple Swing by using a roll jump).

Still on my first time through the game, though, so I'm not really looking for things yet. Also, there's probably going to be a lot more stuff posted on m2k2 than here, so check there every once in a while.

petrie911

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petrie911: 2007-08-30 04:57:17 am

2007-08-30 04:56:52 am

Everybody loves Hypnotoad!

SPOILERS, obviously

It looks as though you might be able to skip visiting the Valhalla. You can reach the eastern landing site before going there, but I'm not sure if you can get the upgrade there before the Valhalla. It's certainly something to look into, although it's probable that you will have to visit the Valhalla anyway (and it looks like it's the source of this game's fetch quest), so I'm not sure if this is really a timesaver at all.

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DeweyIsOverrated

2007-08-30 12:00:59 pm

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my favorite part of the game so far has to be the Jumpball. i didn't even know it existed until Goffy mentioned it.

Amen on that one.

At first glance, the gmae does seem less breakable, for a few reasons. First off, a lot of the game seems very linear. That is, most of the beginning levels are a series fo 10 rooms connected one room after the other, with only one possible direction to go. Second, they put sliding mechanics on EVERYHTING that wasn't meant to be on. I can see high walls out of view being slippery, but then there's things like a 10 foot high crashed ship in the middle of the room, barely taller than you are that has sliding mechanics on it.

Lag.Com

2007-08-30 01:39:13 pm

sda loyalist

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then i'll be the second. the only thing i would've liked better is if Samus actually talked.

I think I'd really hate it if it did that. Especially because you just know they would give her a really sexy "computer AI" voice. Faugh.

Zurreco

2007-08-30 07:37:34 pm

Just call me the cynicism machine

But we already know what her voice kinda sounds like by the noises she made in Super Metroid...

Lucid Faia

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Lucid Faia: 2007-08-30 07:43:37 pm

2007-08-30 07:42:27 pm

Yeah, I said it.

There's no skipping the Valhalla. You need to visit it to access the final planet.

I have no doubt that the Metroid community is going to come up with a series of cool speed /boss tricks, but I'm a little skeptical as far as major sequence breaks are concerned. We'll see in due time.

By the way, if anyone here was worried about spoilers, maybe they shouldn't have entered this topic in the first place. Common sense.

LinkYyay

2007-08-30 07:43:14 pm

I did just pwn the transforming-chick.

I will record the ending and upload it to YouTube when I'm finished with this game.

logitechSDAZ

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logitechSDAZ: 2007-08-31 07:59:51 pm

2007-08-31 04:48:58 am

timesaver in Bryyo

Great game so far. The one thing that is going to piss off speedrunners though is that there are MANY cutscenes (so far...I'm only 10% done with the game) that are unskippable. I haven't really paid attention if cutscenes actually eat up the clock time or not.

EDIT: Turns out Andrew_Mills found this before I did.

petrie911

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petrie911: 2007-08-31 06:37:34 am

2007-08-31 06:22:51 am

Everybody loves Hypnotoad!

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There's no skipping the Valhalla. You need to visit it to access the final planet.

Oh I'm well aware of that, although it looks like don't need all of the energy cells. I was thinking we could skip that mission where it tells you to visit the Valhalla (and pretty much immediately leave).

Also, I found a small timesaver for a 100% run

Sorry if the video's a little dark.

RaneofSOTN

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RaneofSOTN: 2007-08-31 06:51:17 am

2007-08-31 06:48:54 am

I want off the ride....

Other than for 100% can anyone find a reason for why you can get ship missle stock upgrades? i mean i was sitting with 11/11 on my 100% normal finish; (12 hrs horrible)

Honestly, i can see a few time savers but the whole 100% would be a pain as I found in some places that back tracking would be necessary or what not, and some of the places are not good places to back track to (aka the warp to ice place in the lava section of Bryyo)

What i'm wondering about is what other movement techs will spawn I mean; the Screw Attack is anything but useful; I found myself regretting using this cause of how crappy it was at times, if you clicked too fast you might be too short on the jump and what not..

Honestly I am wondering how you all will tear this game apart as someone has to do it... I would prefer to see it on Hyper though... I guess I'll start that mode tomorrow or something...

As a note though, I encountered a STRANGE glitch on the Ice Guy... After screwing around a bit; i decided to Take off his armor and GO HYPER on him, for some reason (i donno why) He locked up after I left hyper in a stunned pose and left me finish off his last 30% all in charged shots without fear of retalliation. I might look further into his on Hyper mode, see if i can find an applicable way to manifest this 100% of the time, maybe it'll get put to use. Sure its not the "forced sword swing" but it'll be safer and maybe faster (if you have the health tank to spare for it)

Other than that; i didn't see much of any sort of glitches in the game, though I do hate the fact its very very cutscene oriented.

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Oh I'm well aware of that, although it looks like don't need all of the energy cells. I was thinking we could skip that mission where it tells you to visit the Valhalla (and pretty much immediately leave).

I never went to Valhalla til i had like 4-5 energy cells, when i got the transmission i ignored it cause i was "on an item hunt!" so... you can completely ignore this transmission; i think its only for pointing out the location you need to go to later.

Other than for 100% can anyone find a reason for why you can get ship missle stock upgrades? i mean i was sitting with 11/11 on my 100% normal finish; (12 hrs horrible)

Honestly, i can see a few time savers but the whole 100% would be a pain as I found in some places that back tracking would be necessary or what not, and some of the places are not good places to back track to (aka the warp to ice place in the lava section of Bryyo)

What i'm wondering about is what other movement techs will spawn I mean; the Screw Attack is anything but useful; I found myself regretting using this cause of how crappy it was at times, if you clicked too fast you might be too short on the jump and what not..

Honestly I am wondering how you all will tear this game apart as someone has to do it... I would prefer to see it on Hyper though... I guess I'll start that mode tomorrow or something...

As a note though, I encountered a STRANGE glitch on the Ice Guy... After screwing around a bit; i decided to Take off his armor and GO HYPER on him, for some reason (i donno why) He locked up after I left hyper in a stunned pose and left me finish off his last 30% all in charged shots without fear of retalliation. I might look further into his on Hyper mode, see if i can find an applicable way to manifest this 100% of the time, maybe it'll get put to use. Sure its not the "forced sword swing" but it'll be safer and maybe faster (if you have the health tank to spare for it)

Other than that; i didn't see much of any sort of glitches in the game, though I do hate the fact its very very cutscene oriented.

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Oh I'm well aware of that, although it looks like don't need all of the energy cells.  I was thinking we could skip that mission where it tells you to visit the Valhalla (and pretty much immediately leave).[/quote]
I never went to Valhalla til i had like 4-5 energy cells, when i got the transmission i ignored it cause i was "on an item hunt!" so... you can completely ignore this transmission; i think its only for pointing out the location you need to go to later.

ZeroEXE

2007-08-31 08:20:30 am

Frisbee Grenadier

Does anyone have any tips for quickly beating the Defense Droid in Skytown? It's taking an absurd amount of time for me.

Lucid Faia

2007-08-31 09:10:17 am

Yeah, I said it.

Most cutscenes in the game can be skipped by using the B button, including the long briefing at the start of the game. You might need to clear the game once for this to work, though.

Andrew_Mills

2007-08-31 09:31:42 am

AlphaStrategyGui des.com

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timesaver in Bryyo

Great game so far. The one thing that is going to piss off speedrunners though is that there are MANY cutscenes (so far...I'm only 10% done with the game) that are unskippable. I haven't really paid attention if cutscenes actually eat up the clock time or not.

Nice find... shame I documented it on M2k2 a couple of days ago... Wink

http://www.metroid2002.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=177592&highlight=#177592

There's been a few sweet discoveries (including a Screw-Attack assisted Ghetto Jump, miniboss skip and a few other cheeky timesavers.

Current most up-to-date compendium of tricks are at:
http://www.metroid2002.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6381

Direct Video links:
http://www.supermetroid.co.uk/mp3_findings/mp3_early_missile_exp1_bryyo.avi (Mislabelled Bryyo timesaver)

http://www.supermetroid.co.uk/mp3_findings/mp3_skytown_speed_tip.avi

http://www.supermetroid.co.uk/mp3_findings/mp3_ghetto_jump.avi

http://www.supermetroid.co.uk/mp3_findings/mp3_sa_ghetto.avi

http://math.utoledo.edu/~dgajews/sw35/Corruption/TurbineChamber.avi (Miniboss Skip! Found by SkippyJr)

http://math.utoledo.edu/~dgajews/sw35/Corruption/TurbineChamber_funny.avi (Glitch based on above discovery)

http://www.ali1548.ukshells.co.uk/vids/prime3/boostin_enc.avi (found by DJGrenola)

http://www.ali1548.ukshells.co.uk/vids/prime3/lolgravity_enc.avi (Again, found by DJGrenola)

So, so far, not a bad start to our ultimate goal of generating tangable sequence breaks/major speed tricks. Cheesy

[quote][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaNhVTipWhk]timesaver in Bryyo[/url]

Great game so far.   The one thing that is going to piss off speedrunners though is that there are MANY cutscenes (so far...I'm only 10% done with the game) that are unskippable.  I haven't really paid attention if cutscenes actually eat up the clock time or not.  
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Nice find... shame I documented it on M2k2 a couple of days ago... ;)

http://www.metroid2002.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=177592&highlight=#177592

There's been a few sweet discoveries (including a Screw-Attack assisted Ghetto Jump, miniboss skip and a few other cheeky timesavers.

Current most up-to-date compendium of tricks are at: 
http://www.metroid2002.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6381

Direct Video links: 
http://www.supermetroid.co.uk/mp3_findings/mp3_early_missile_exp1_bryyo.avi (Mislabelled Bryyo timesaver)

http://www.supermetroid.co.uk/mp3_findings/mp3_skytown_speed_tip.avi

http://www.supermetroid.co.uk/mp3_findings/mp3_ghetto_jump.avi

http://www.supermetroid.co.uk/mp3_findings/mp3_sa_ghetto.avi

http://math.utoledo.edu/~dgajews/sw35/Corruption/TurbineChamber.avi (Miniboss Skip! Found by SkippyJr)

http://math.utoledo.edu/~dgajews/sw35/Corruption/TurbineChamber_funny.avi (Glitch based on above discovery)

http://www.ali1548.ukshells.co.uk/vids/prime3/boostin_enc.avi (found by DJGrenola)

http://www.ali1548.ukshells.co.uk/vids/prime3/lolgravity_enc.avi (Again, found by DJGrenola)

So, so far, not a bad start to our ultimate goal of generating tangable sequence breaks/major speed tricks. :D

DJGrenola

2007-08-31 10:37:30 am

guffaw

the last two are kind of obvious, but I learned from prime 2 that people sometimes miss obvious things.

it was good to see the bsj and ghetto jumps survive.

Andrew_Mills

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Andrew_Mills: 2007-08-31 11:50:15 am

2007-08-31 11:47:34 am

AlphaStrategyGui des.com

Video of the Valhalla 'Stairwell' speed trick (access the weapon cache missile exp without needing 2 energy cores):

http://www.supermetroid.co.uk/mp3_findings/mp3_valhalla_stairwell_timesaver.avi

Cheesy

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it was good to see the bsj and ghetto jumps survive.

Yea, but Retro obviously tried pretty damn hard to remove the Ghetto, seeing as sliding up against a slope disables the Space Jump most of the time. Roll Eyes

Still, we've managed to overcome that and skip a miniboss already. Who knows what else we'll all discover over the coming momnths?

I'm just worried about them adding some great new content via connect 24 and slipping in a few 'fixes' to our early findings. You can rest assured, that the mini-boss skip WILL be fixed come it's PAL launch. I'll be genuinely gobsmacked if it isn't.

logitechSDAZ

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logitechSDAZ: 2007-08-31 07:47:27 pm

2007-08-31 07:41:18 pm

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Nice find... shame I documented it on M2k2 a couple of days ago... Wink

http://www.metroid2002.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=177592&highlight=#177592

There's been a few sweet discoveries (including a Screw-Attack assisted Ghetto Jump, miniboss skip and a few other cheeky timesavers.

Current most up-to-date compendium of tricks are at:
http://www.metroid2002.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6381

Direct Video links:
http://www.supermetroid.co.uk/mp3_findings/mp3_early_missile_exp1_bryyo.avi (Mislabelled Bryyo timesaver)

http://www.supermetroid.co.uk/mp3_findings/mp3_skytown_speed_tip.avi

http://www.supermetroid.co.uk/mp3_findings/mp3_ghetto_jump.avi

http://www.supermetroid.co.uk/mp3_findings/mp3_sa_ghetto.avi

http://math.utoledo.edu/~dgajews/sw35/Corruption/TurbineChamber.avi (Miniboss Skip! Found by SkippyJr)

http://math.utoledo.edu/~dgajews/sw35/Corruption/TurbineChamber_funny.avi (Glitch based on above discovery)

http://www.ali1548.ukshells.co.uk/vids/prime3/boostin_enc.avi (found by DJGrenola)

http://www.ali1548.ukshells.co.uk/vids/prime3/lolgravity_enc.avi (Again, found by DJGrenola)

So, so far, not a bad start to our ultimate goal of generating tangable sequence breaks/major speed tricks. Cheesy

lol. I didn't even know there was another MP3 discussion. I'm glad there is because SDA forum is kinda dead.

I'll credit you in the youtube vid info for finding the speed trick.

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Nice find... shame I documented it on M2k2 a couple of days ago... ;)