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Hi! I'm andrewg!
Man, there are so many of those challenges I knew I could have pulled off had I stayed longer. I got 20 points I guess.

I was doing pretty well with SMB that day. But I couldn't pull off some of the things I usually can.  8)

I'm glad I got to meet everyone. It was really cool.  8)
You got a deletion wish?
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Wow, really surprised that guy didn't beat Metroid Expert. Was that the one where you have fight Mother Brain with one e-tank?

Yeah, but Breakdown got it while Frez and/or myself attempted to crack the Tyson challenge, which no one managed to clear.

Just got back a few minutes ago myself.
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Awesome to see that SDA nearly swept the board.

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Quote from Arkarian:
Wow, really surprised that guy didn't beat Metroid Expert. Was that the one where you have fight Mother Brain with one e-tank?


I was a bit surprised over that too. but on the other hand it is not an easy challenge. but very doable. At least me, brakedown and Emptyeye did that one.


Yeah, I actually watched you do that one— you made it look easy. Tongue
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Yeah, I actually watched you do that one— you made it look easy. Tongue


Cool. Yea, you have to do it very carefully. And have as much space as possible for those ring-shots at mother brains chamber. Sometimes they come very, very fast Smiley

Quote from Tiki:
Frezy holds the controller weird for Contra Tongue


Yea thats right. Thats my Base level pose. I actually have three ways to hold the controller. and lets call that one "pose no. 1" I use it on the base levels (not the boss fights), on the waterfall boss, the snowfield tanks and the rest of the bosses.

"Pose no. 2" - I lay down the NES controller at my knee. I can easier control the character that way but it is tiresome for my arm because of the angle for the NES pad. So I just use this pose on the base level bosses I think.

"Pose no. 3" - This is what I call the normal way to hold a NES pad. so you probably know what I mean. I use it for the levels, where I not have to shot very fast.

Also, Stanski is not the only one that holds the controller that way. I have seen a bunch of people holding it like that. For example, Arctic Eagle, The Norwegian Zelda 2 and Shadow warrior runner (Ninja gaiden)

btw, I do not know if Pose is a good way to describe a hand grip of a video game pad Tongue
wise fwom yo gwave
Quote from Frezy_man:
everyone was pretty much sexy. Even Radix. but all guys did not met him I guess.

The event have been awsome. To bad no SDA guy won the NES challenges. But the guy with long black hair that won the competition where kind of cool and I hope he could hang around here in da future. He finished every challenge except Metroid Expert and Mike tyson TKO in round 1. Me and Matrix tried that challenge but we could not get it done. Seriously, I think it was some lag in the controller or something. I could not beat Tyson at all. I use to be able to do it at my NES at home.

I can not belive they timed the Ninja gaiden speedrun competition with a fucking stop-watch that way they did Tongue I actually won an NES for the first competition. I pretty much perfected the first level. and I think Stanski pulled off his run faster then Liger. I was about half a second away from him. btw, Stanski. did you got your price?

Me and Enhasa had some Super mario kart racing. That was awsome! I guess he won a couple of GPs more then me but that was a lot of fun.

Me and Mike tried to do a Co op speedrun of both Sunset riders and Contra. thanks to chief Wigwam we looked like a couple of real loosers.

I watched Kareshi when he played trough ghost n goblins and played piano, that was cool.

Yesterday Mike gave us beers. you should have been there Wink And overall. 4 awsome days. And it was a lot fun to met everyone IRL.

Also, thanks for those pics and videos! My Camera where brooked when I arrived. and I guess Tri hex will post a bunch of pics when he get home Smiley


Yea, I got my prizes Frezy. I think next time we get together for a meet up we should come up with just random games to have speedrun competitions on, because it was way too fun even competing on one level of ninja gaiden 2.

Anyways, my quote for the weekend was "I would have driven 10 hours just to watch Frezy's thumb." That summed up my thoughts on the weekend, just so much sick gaming. And some awesome games that i would never get to play otherwise!
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Emptyeye: 2009-02-03 06:09:54 pm
Talk to the Hand
Yeah, I got back about an hour ago. Still pretty tired, but I'll say a few things anyway.

I was actually pleasantly surprised at the reaction my portion of the speedrunning video got (Even if anyone who watched the first panel and wasn't from SDA now thinks I'm some jackass making fun of it, not knowing the inside joke behind it [Apparently Mike and Enhasa had a conversation that was essentially "Dammit, does Emptyeye ever run games in which the final boss isn't 'Stand in one place and bash it repeatedly'?"]). The funny thing is that I don't remember knocking Bavmorda into the status screen as being anything particularly special; I had actually completely forgotten about it until watching it again at the panel. Then again, I guess that sort of thing symbolizes what SDA is all about, in a way. Smiley

In short: Y'all are cool people. And Stanski, I'm sorry that in reality I'm about a foot shorter and half the weight of Hulk Hogan. Hopefully I still look smart to you though. Sad

Challenges-wise, I wound up 4th, with 86 points. Thank God Frezy_man was lazy and didn't feel like learning games he had never played before; I think he definitely could have had a lot more points if he had put the effort into it. Against a bunch of SDA people (And Phillippe, whom I know from the same place as Kareshi, and who actually beat me for second last year [In the epic battle of conditions-that-leave-you-in-no-shape-to-play-a-Dr.-Mario-tiebreaker-for-second, hungover [him] beat sleep deprived [me]]), I'll take that. The one thing that I was slightly annoyed about was that the point disparity was such that I probably could have done nothing on Saturday and still gotten fourth. Oh well.

As an aside, I tried Nibbler briefly once the world record attempts were all over. Yeah, mad respect to both Tim and Dwayne (The two people who played Nibbler for about 24 hours straight) for lasting as long as they did, even if no world record came of the attempt. For those who don't know exactly what happened, they started playing just before noon on Friday. At about 8 AM Saturday, Dwayne's machine froze. Late morning on Saturday, Tim basically quit, as he was starting to lose his focus and lives, and decided there was no way he could hold on for another 20 hours and the record. Dwayne then made a second attempt which ended fairly early. The record for Nibbler is just over a billion points, which takes roughly 48 hours of playtime to achieve. Incidentally, I can now say I talked to Walter Day (TG's founder and chief referee), although it wasn't more than "How're you I'm fine and yourself oh good so where're you from?" since we were both getting ready to check out of the hotel.

Wow, this was longer than I thought. But yeah, I had a great time, and it was definitely cool to meet everyone else who went.

By the way: There are definitely points in the Mother Brain's chamber where the Rinka (Or "ring shots" as Frezy calls them) patterns aren't random (Figuring this out was what sent this from "How the hell does Ryon expect ayone to do this ever" to "Oh hey this is really tough but I think it's actually doable now"). I actually think there's a pattern to the whole thing, but at some points (EG right at Mother Brain herself) it's too long for me to easily spot what point the pattern is at currently, so I basically play it as "Anticipate that the Rinka will come from the point closest to you; adjust accordingly if it doesn't". That was how I managed to do it anyway.
lol, the fact that Walter Day spent $$$ to cover competition for an arcade game nobody has heard of is pretty lulzy. He treated it as if it were Donkey Kong competition =\

Me and tjp passed by him and chatted him up a bit after the guy's machine froze. I'm really terrible at quoting people verbatim, but here's a summary how our little conversation with him went-

Me: "They still at it in there, Mr. Day?"
Day: "Nope. Dwayne's machine froze. He's gone to get some sleep."
Us: "Seriously? So the competition is over?"
Day: *Something along the lines of the record holder still going at it to improve his record*
Me: "I see."

We introduce ourselves. I mention to him that I tried to submit a record to TG via his website a while back. Not too far from the truth, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to submit anything to TG after this little diddy-

Me: "So what's your stance on using import boot discs for the PlayStation to play import games?"
Day: "I'm actually the worst guy to ask about that. You'll have to ask one of the referees."

Now I'm thinking, 'hold the phone, seriously?' I keep talking to him.

Me: "Ahh, okay. As I understand it, at TG there are multiple referees for different game systems, correct?"
Day: "Yes sir."
Me: "So who is the PlayStation referee I need to contact?"
Day: "We have a whole mess of referees. I don't know who they are." (or something to that effect)
Me: "Okay, I suppose I'll go to the TG forums and ask there then. Thanks sir."
Day: "Great! I hope to see you on the scoreboards." *we part.*
My feelings on The Demon Rush
Quote from Emptyeye:
In short: Y'all are cool people. And Stanski, I'm sorry that in reality I'm about a foot shorter and half the weight of Hulk Hogan. Hopefully I still look smart to you though. Sad


Well you're not a super smart Hulk Hogan, but maybe you could pass for Rodan's Thinker Wink

The whole event was a lot of fun. It was cool meeting other speedrunners who understand what speedrunning is like, and there were definitely some good times.

Choice quote from Saturday night:

Frezy_man: "I did a run while pretty drunk, but I can't remember which run it is."

Andrewg: You should start an Andrew Gardiwiki containing every single Mario glitch and juggling trick you know.

Manocheese: It was a great pantsel indeed.
Yoshi's eggs are at my mercy!
Quote from mikwuyma:
Quote from Emptyeye:
In short: Y'all are cool people. And Stanski, I'm sorry that in reality I'm about a foot shorter and half the weight of Hulk Hogan. Hopefully I still look smart to you though. Sad


Well you're not a super smart Hulk Hogan, but maybe you could pass for Rodan's Thinker Wink

The whole event was a lot of fun. It was cool meeting other speedrunners who understand what speedrunning is like, and there were definitely some good times.

Choice quote from Saturday night:

Frezy_man: "I did a run while pretty drunk, but I can't remember which run it is."

Andrewg: You should start an Andrew Gardiwiki containing every single Mario glitch and juggling trick you know.

Manocheese: It was a great pantsel indeed.


Pssf! Easily the best quote from the whole trip:

*Stanski and Frezy are doing a "for-fun" co-op Contra speedrun*

Mike: So who's Red and who's Blue?
Frezy: I am!

*Everyone laughs*

....

Okay, in text it doesn't have as much win sauce as IRL, I'll have to see if I recorded that, because the context and the way Frezy replied makes it as funny as it was then. >_>;

Also, another photo tease from the uber pack:



Mike Uyama being Uyamaish.
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andrewg: 2009-01-04 10:56:00 pm
Hi! I'm andrewg!
I said "I am" Wink or maybe that's a lie haha... Can anyone verify this? heh. I could have sworn.....

Speaking of which, it was hilarious to play SuperC with Frezy, we had very similar tactics, but we still did terribly haha.


Trihex, it was kinda funny how those two guys just kept owning us and everyone else in ssbm. Those guys were definately not beginners.
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mikwuyma: 2009-01-05 01:12:17 pm
My feelings on The Demon Rush
Some other random stuff I remember:

-When picking up Frezy_Man, he told he brought some beer. All of it exploded except for one beer. Sad
Though beer-scented NES controllers were a nice touch.

-Stanski asking afterwards whether the beer was canned (some of it was), then saying he could have told Frezy_Man that's a terrible thing to do from experience.

-Arriving at MAGFest around 11 am Thursday with about 8 or so SDA members, then seeing that the only thing we could do was play some random arcade machines like a Street Fighter 2 hack that lets you do every single move in the air, complete with wraparound because you can jump again after doing a special  Huh?

-MAGFest telling us that the registration and the console rooms would be open at 12, then 1, and after we wait 20 minutes in line to register at 1:15, the console room people were finally honest with us and tell us 5. Of course, when we come back at 5, they're STILL not ready.

-Playing Tekken 2...for SNES (or as the cart itself says, Super Cartridge). Too bad the footage didn't record, or else you would have seen advanced tactics like low punch spam, moving through each other for crossups, and the cartridge glitching out at least 3 times.

-Breakdown later playing the game with me, and doing horribly because he's trying to play the game like an actual Tekken game.

-Stanski having trouble finding a Sega Genesis while finding a Saturn, three Dreamcasts, and two Master Systems. When I find a Genesis for him, it has a Sonic game already inside, Sonic 3D Blast. Roll Eyes

-Stanski and I saying on Thursday, "We'll definitely complete Altered Beast by the end of MAGFest." Then Friday after being at MAGFest for at least 8 hours, "God, I don't want to play games anymore, fuck Altered Beast."

-Before MAGFest, Enhasa said that if he started practicing the NES challenges he would definitely get really into it and complete as many as possible. He ended up pretty much camping around the NES challenges booth the entire time it was open. Tongue

-Speaking of camping out during the NES challenges.

Me: "Breakdown, have you done anything aside from completing NES challenges?"
Breakdown: "Yeah, I put one or two credits in some arcade machines."

-Frezy_Man being unable to complete the Donkey Kong 3 challenge, despite the challenge being a button mashing fest.

-During our panel, the Willow clip received one of the best responses. Cheesy

-Seeing andrewg perform a million Mario 1 glitches that are ridiculously hard to perform, all while he's saying his trademark line, "I'm so terrible at this game."

-MAGFest having at least 30 TVs and hundreds of console games available to play, and Nate ends up playing Metroid Prime for hours. Tongue

-Seeing Battle Circuit was one of the Arcade games available on request, then when I ask the guy maintaining the boards, he says he didn't bring it because he thought no one would play it. Cry

-Eating pho before MAGFest, I say the soup I order is really stinky. Stanski first says he can't smell anything, then when he gets a whiff, he goes, "GOD THAT IS AWFUL!" Also, being on the complete opposite end of Enhasa (the two asians, right?) means we had a SDA-spice baton relay team.

-While Nate and I were playing the Japanese Streets of Rage 2, he jump kicks with Blaze and is completely flabbergasted, then he does another jump kick, pauses the game and points out for a full minute that you can see Blaze's panties when she jump kicks, being amazed by the "lack of censoring" Wink (I still love you Nate). Also, blaming the input lag for a lot of our sucking, when it's pretty clear we both just kinda suck at the game  Undecided

-Being confused over when the Magical Drop 3 tourney was happening, when it didn't even happen at all. Sad

-Having a TSS round robin tourney after Stanski leaves. Tongue

-Speaking of TSS, Frezy_Man is a quick study who will quickly become good at the game.

-Drinking the plans needed to bang out the audio commentaries Wink

-Carcinogen being super serious about teaching me how to export a wav, sync audio, and use Audacity, even though I had at least 5 beers at that point. It didn't help that the first two I had were 11% and 7.5%. Tongue

-Thinking my singing during the commentary was actually good, then listening to it the next day is making me seriously consider voice lessons. :-[

-Waking up after 3 hours of sleep to go MAGFest with a hangover. Sad

-Frezy_Man telling me on three separate occasions that day that he was still drunk from last night. Grin

-Playing TMNT: The Arcade Game (the real arcade game) with Frezy_Man and hearing what he has to say. "Cowabunga!" (after we beat a stage) "April is hotter in the NES version." And of course Frezy's pissed when April kisses me after saving her.

Speaking of TMNT, TMNT: The Tournament Fighters is the best fighting game no one has ever played. Of course, it has a 30+ page thread on Shoryuken.com complete with tiers.

Oh yeah, if anyone was wondering how the panels went, they both went well, but the first panel was better than the second simply because the location was much much better. The first panel was situated right in the center of MAGFest so lots of people would just walk through and start watching the video. The second panel was wayyyyyyyyy at the edge of the MAGFest grounds.

Also, MAGFest was a ton of fun, mostly because I could finally put faces to SDA members and talk to people who actually knew speedrunning and the community.
Talk to the Hand
Quote from mikwuyma:
-Arriving at MAGFest around 11 am Thursday with about 8 or so SDA members, then seeing that the only thing we could do was play some random arcade machines like a Street Fighter 2 hack that lets you do every single move in the air, complete with wraparound because you can jump again after doing a special  Huh?


I actually played one of these in an arcade a long while back. I one-credited the game with Vega (No idea how I did that, honestly. Maybe the dipswitches were set to Super Easy, I dunno)...and was treated to Ryu's ending. If you remember in the early 90s, Street Fighter II Turbo came out in response to a bunch of people pirating CE and making it slightly faster; I think this was one of those pirated machines.

Quote from mikwuyma:
-MAGFest telling us that the registration and the console rooms would be open at 12, then 1, and after we wait 20 minutes in line to register at 1:15, the console room people were finally honest with us and tell us 5. Of course, when we come back at 5, they're STILL not ready.


I checked my M5 shirt, and it definitely started that particular Thursday. So this makes 2 out of 3 years since they've gone to Thursday being a "proper" con day that they've failed to have the game room up and running in a timely manner (Though this was still an improvement over M5, when I got there at 1AM Thursday night/Friday morning and it was STILL not ready). No idea why this was.

Quote from mikwuyma:
-Frezy_Man being unable to complete the Donkey Kong 3 challenge, despite the challenge being a button mashing fest.

I'm tell you, Mike, you, me and Frezy in an Ice Climber/Tetris/DK3 triathlon thingie next year. It'll be epic!  Cheesy

Quote from mikwuyma:
-During our panel, the Willow clip received one of the best responses. Cheesy


The best part is that the big reaction came from the second, relatively easy part of the fight. Yeah yeah, you and Enhasa will argue they're both easy, but there's still the element of "I can't miss one shot or I've pissed away an hour and a half for nothing" to the first phase. Moral of the story: Fuck skill, knocking enemies into the status bars is what the people want to see.

Quote from mikwuyma:
-Waking up after 3 hours of sleep to go MAGFest with a hangover. Sad

Yeah, for all your collective skill at running games, you guys failed epically to speedrun "Get to the damn challenge awards ceremony on time" Tongue


Quote from mikwuyma:
-Frezy_Man telling me on three separate occasions that day that he was still drunk from last night. Grin

He told me that too, but only once.

Quote from mikwuyma:
Also, MAGFest was a ton of fun, mostly because I could finally put faces to SDA members and talk to people who actually knew speedrunning and the community.

Yeah, you mentioned that the speedrun competition dudes outside the game room were pissed off that you kept restarting. This greatly amused me; how the hell do they expect that speedruns get produced in the first place?

Oh well. Great fun regardless.
新世紀進歩的羽扇子 音楽
Quote from Emptyeye:
Yeah, for all your collective skill at running games, you guys failed epically to speedrun "Get to the damn challenge awards ceremony on time" Tongue

We already blew all our skill by speedrunning sleeping. Mike was the first one to go to bed, and that was at like 5 am.
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Yeah, you mentioned that the speedrun competition dudes outside the game room were pissed off that you kept restarting. This greatly amused me; how the hell do they expect that speedruns get produced in the first place?

Magic.
You couldn't be more wrong Spineshark. Everyone knows that speedruns are made by autistic Asian kids the very first time they play.
welcome to the machine
tl;dr summary:  Magfest was awesome (Galuda 2!), and I hope to go again next year.
bil
Quote from VorpalEdge:
tl;dr summary:  Magfest was awesome (Galuda 2!), and I hope to go again next year.
except the lack of girls I guess?
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spineshark: 2009-01-05 10:36:43 pm
新世紀進歩的羽扇子 音楽
Yeah, I was really excited to meet a geeky woman who lives thousands miles away so I would only potentially see her in another year.  I put a lot of effort into this endeavor and was disappointed when it was not successful!
sda loyalist
spineshark is a fucking genius. I could not have put that better
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mikwuyma: 2009-01-06 01:23:26 pm
My feelings on The Demon Rush
A couple more moments I remember.

-Stanski and Enhasa tried going to the arcade cabinets 101 panel, but apparently the people who ran the panel didn't show up. Then Stanski and I made a panel that would make Tiki proud.

Stanski: "This is an American stick, you hold it like a penis."
Me: "This is a Japanese stick, it has a ball and a shaft holding it upright."
Stanski: "A Uniballer"

About the arcade machines, it was so obvious when SDA people were playing them because they didn't credit feed or button mash. Tongue

-Talking to stanski about meeting everyone.

Stanski: "Everyone looked just like I expected, except for Emptyeye."
Me: "Why? What did you expect him to look like?"
Stanski: "Well, I expected him to look like a really smart Hulk Hogan, but he's so short."

-When talking about vgmrsepitome.

Frezy: What does epitome mean?
us: The end all be all of something.
Frezy: ...
us: Well, it's like the pinnacle.
Frezy: Hmm, sounds cool.

Get that, vgmr? Frezy thinks you're cool.

-Change Air Blade is just as stupid offline as it is online.

-I'm no good at speedrunning cooking.

Emptyeye: I was at M5 and I was considering going on Thursday, but I guess it was a good idea I didn't go until Friday. Tongue

spineshark: hahahahaha, so true.

tmont: The funny thing about Frezy_man is that he's just as big of a nerd as the rest of us.

For example:

-Before we leave on Saturday Frezy buys three shirts, one Ninja Gaiden, one Tenchu, and another one featuring a game with ninjas.

-Frezy and I were talking about the kind of music we listen to while I'm driving him to his hostel. He says he likes lots of music, but he only listens to video game music, and it drives his girlfriend insane.
Glitching EB 1 flying man at a time
Quote from mikwuyma:
Speaking of TMNT, TMNT: The Tournament Fighters is the best fighting game no one has ever played. Of course, it has a 30+ page thread on Shoryuken.com complete with tiers.


Yeah, I own that one (I tend to sometimes own random games some people have never heard of). It is better, to me, than most fighting games like that during that time. I suck at them, though...
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One of the best memories of this trip is so far when Mike should drive me to my hostel. he drove in wrong direction 5 times and he could not tell me if that big building was the white house or not Cheesy So Mike probably did screw up about 10 minutes. He can memorize thousands of boss patterns, but not a handfull of streets in the town 20 minutes from his home Tongue
But anyways, thanks a lot for all the help, it probably it was not as bad as it sounds like.

The audio commentary we did where a lot fun, I guess some of the other guys would like to hear it.
I was wondering...when you were all hanging out did you call each other by your real names or your SDA names?
Hi! I'm andrewg!
I was calling people both, depending on the username. I would call freddy by either because they are so similar. I didn't know a lot of people's real names so I ended up calling a lot of people by their usernames.
wise fwom yo gwave
sda names mostly for people i couldnt remember. 'hey you' also.
Talk to the Hand
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sda names mostly for people i couldnt remember. 'hey you' also.

This. Honestly, probably mostly "Hey you" or something similar.