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This is one of my favorite games of all time, and I've beaten it maybe 80 to 90 times from start to finish. I haven't seen any threads on SDA about this game, so I plan on doing an any% run. I'm currently replaying the game again, this time making notes of every segment. The game is fairly straightforward so I don't think there are ways to segment skip.
Here's what I have so far:
Here's what I have so far:
Blue Spire:
-Get to Lucia at level 6.
-I get Hiro to level 7 on the way down to learn Poe Sword.
-Guardian boss battle. I just use the stalemate trick to have Ruby kill him in one hit. Lvl: 10
-Exit tower and finish cutscene with Leo.
-Time here is around 38 minutes.
Getting Ronfar:
It takes around 6 minutes to get Ronfar.
It takes another 8 to leave Larpa. For the mini dungeon, 90% of the time, I can never run away from the first set of slimes, but I can for the remainder of the monsters I meet.
-Time here should be around 54 minutes.
Dalton/Dragonship Destiny:
It takes around 2 and a half minutes to get onboard the dragonship destiny. I get the long sword on Hiro (still level 10)
It takes me around 11 minutes to leave Dalton. I basically spend all my money on herbs and 2 dragonwings.
-Time here should be around 1:07.
Starlight/Illusion:
Get to Illusion in about 3 minutes.
Grab the snake crest and chain mail chests.
Finish Illusion forest in 8 minutes and meet Jean.
Hiro at level 13. Beat Plantella... it takes me almost 9 minutes to beat it because I suck.
Time here should be around 1:35.
Takkar:
Enter Takkar at 1:36.
Get both star light and passion fruit.
It takes around 6 minutes to get to the ghost manor. I pick up both the purity and wind ring.
Get star light right before boss fight.
Boss fight is RIDICULOUSLY HARD, but manageable. I enter with Hiro at lvl 15 and survive with only Jean left at 16 hp and no herbs left...
Time here is right over 2 hours.
Nota:
I get to Nota at 2:10 with pretty bad luck running away. I pick up all the chests on the way.
Get Gauss Necklace and silver Light, buy broadsword, iron shield, and silver bandana.
Time entering bridge is 2:12.
Mystic Ruins:
Enter ruins at 2:15.
Out of the Ruins in 4 minutes. I ignore the Dream Crest since it's useless and get the flame staff in the second room even though the path is longer. It makes things easier in the next dungeon.
Time here is 2:19.
Zulan:
Enter here at 2:23. I got the Life Jewel in Nota so it takes 15 seconds longer.
Enter Mountains at 2:26. It's a good thing this dungeon's chests are not out of the way since they're pretty good (Power Crest, Water Staff, Barrier and Phoenix Ring)
Takes about 5 minutes to get to the top of the mountain. Equip Lemina with Phoenix Ring, and Hiro with Barrier Ring.
Fighting the boss at level 17. Stupidly easy but long battle. 2 ATK upgrades by Lucia and 3 by Lemina let Hiro do ~190 dmg with poe sword. Hiro gets to level 20 from this battle.
I leave Zulan at 2:49.
Meribia is boring. Bought Bastard Sword and Platinum Fan for Jean. Grab Life Jewel and Earth Crest.
Enter Taben's Peak at 2:54. Get to the top in 5 minutes. I pick up everything except the herb chest.
Re-enter Meribia at 3:00.
I hate this dungeon. I seem to fail running away 90% of the time, so it takes me 8.5 minutes to reach the end.
The fight is 80% luck based I think. Since I am grossly underleveled, I need to make a sea of dead people so that the last survivor can kill them off slowly. The fight only takes 5 minutes though.
Vane:
Enter Vane at 3:24ish.
Enter Vane through cave of trials at 3:29.
Get all the chests in Vane before I leave. Equip Lemina with thieves staff.
**Note: In case people don't know, Gorgon Doll+Rubber Boots+Yellow Pajamas let Hiro run twice as long in dungeons. Downside is the person with all 3 equipped starts the battle asleep. I plan on having that be lemina when I get the yellow pajamas (Raculi). She's pretty useless as a meat shield going through dungeons anyways.
Sluice Forest:
Enter Sluice Forest at 3:36.
Enter Azado at 3:41. Equipped Hiro with Warrior Crest.
Update all gear on Hiro and Ronfar. Buy tons of Herbs and Healing Nuts. It takes about 2-3 minutes to do all this.
Night time starts at 3:46.
Get to shrine at 3:51.
Beat boss at 4:01 (hiro level 21). He's easy once I have Litany on Leo. I found out gauss necklace and healing ring can stack, but not two healing rings
I run down to get the healing crest and ring.
***Time at start of disk 2 is 4:05 with Hiro at level 24***
Pentagulia:
MYstere joins the party at 4:11.
Ronfar joins the party at 4:19.
Jean joins the party at 4:27.
Lemina joins the party at 4:34.
Exit Taben's Peak at 4:50.
Enter White Dragon Cave at 4:54. Leo is easy (4 poe swords).
Takes 8 minutes to get to boss. I try to steal chiro crests from the set of two chiro in the first floor, but fail. If anyone knows a good way to bait the crystals to break the ice pillars in the first floor it would speed things up too.
Boss takes 9 minutes to kill with Hiro at level 26. I play super carefully and accidentally use one extra starlight because I'm paranoid and lost track of how many Poe swords I used. This would be 10x easier with Lemina at lvl 32.
Leave White Dragon Cave at 5:23.
Enter Horam at 5:24.
Enter Zen Zone at 5:29. Jean finally isn't useless.
It takes around 12 minutes to beat all three rounds. The shadow dragon cult (last stage) is really nervewracking considering jean has to defend until there is only one left since she only has 190+ HP.
**Note: if I was able to steal Shiro and Chiro crests from the previous dungeon this would be much easier. Jean with snake ring and two shiro crests ensures that she dodges over half of the attacks.
It takes 6 minutes to beat Lunn. He's laughably easy. It can probably be cut by 20 seconds or so, but I forgot to equip Jean with the Warrior Crest. Also, Lunn is unable to use his flying kick if you defend and move yourself upwards at the beginning of the round, giving me an extra turn to attack whenever he puts his palms up.
Enter Blue Dragon Cave at 5:48.
The important things to get here are Revenge Crest, Anti-Magic Ring, and Plasma Ring. The only one out of the way is the revenge crest, but it makes all future fights easier (Snake+Revenge gives bonus attack every turn).
Takes 7 min to get to boss. 2 of the floors can easily be done without running into anything.
Boss takes 11 minutes... way too long.
Exit cave at 6:03.
I go back to Meribia quickly and spend all my money on Star Lights + Herbs.
Enter zabak Mines at 6:05.
Exit Zabak Mines at 6:07. Picked up all the good things too.
Enter Neo-Vane at 6:08.
Enter Neo-Trial Cave at 6:10.
Pick up Healing Ring, Clear Ring, Silver Light.
Takes 7 minutes to get through Neo-Trial Cave with semi-bad luck running away.
Hiro level 32. Including the talking, beating Borgan takes 8 minutes (or 7 turns). Didn't have to use a single item.
Enter Black Dragon Cave at 6:27.
I feel like fighting the zombies and trying to flee take the same amount of time, seeing as how fleeing almost never works in this cavern.
With good luck I manage to get past B1 with only one encounter. Same for B2.
Get to Boss Room in 6 minutes. Hiro is level 34 here, so the boss has about 4250 life. With Napalm, Ice Arrows, and Boomerang dealing 150+220+130=500dmg/turn, this should theoretically be only about 8 turns long. Not having chiro+chiro here really hurts because I am unable to WPD at the beginning of the match to conserve mana. The mana issue wouldn't be so bad either if Lemina was 36 and could use Magic Swiper.
Enter Raculi at 6:49. Get Yellow Pajamas. I now have Gorgon Doll, Rubber Boots, and Yellow Pajamas, which let me run for two to three times as long.
Enter Serak Palace at 6:51. It's better to just get the Holy Hairpin and Psycho Gauntlet for now. Everything can be looted later.
Get Althena's Aura and return to entrance at 6:53.
Time after ravaging Mauri's vagina monster is 7:14. Easy fight. Used 3 healing nuts and 4 herbs.
Time entering Red Dragon Cave is 7:15. Equipped Lemina with all the running gear. Get to Boss in 3 minutes. I only pick up Dyne's Armor and Water Ring. I will get the Shield Ring on my way out.
Takes 12 min to kill boss using 4 star lights. It's possible to do it with 3 star lights and under 10 though. Lemina can 1v1 the boss.
Leave Serak Palace at 7:37.
Althena's Fortress:
Enter Pentagulia at 7:41.
Arrive at Goddess Statue at 7:48. Equip everyone with respective endgame gear.
Time after killing her is 7:57. Only Hiro gets hurt throughout the entire match. No items or deaths.
Takes 1 minute to get to top of goddess tower.
Hiro at level 41.
Note: Important to switch gear before disc change or Ghaleon will destroy me.
**********Start of disc 3 is at 8:02*************
Vane:
Finish talking to party members and start shopping at 8:04
Get Ghaleon's Sword at 8:24. Only used 2 Herbs and 2 Healing Nuts.
Zophar's Keep:
Enter Zophar's Domain at 8:29.
Get to top at 8:38 with bad luck running from seeds.
Use one life jewel for preparation.
Items entering fight: 20 Healing Nuts, 4 Passion Fruits, 2 Life Jewels, 15 Star Lights, 12 Silver Lights, 7 Angel Tears.
ZOPHAR:
Hiro (MD) Fiend/TriRing, Revenge/Snake Crest
Ronfar (NE) Clear/Healing Ring, Red Dragon Crest
Jean- (SW) Spirit Talisman/Healing Ring, Warrior/Goddess Crest
Lemina- (SE) Wind/Stardust Ring, White Dragon/Chiro Crest
Leo- (NW) Water/Fresh Ring, Blue Dragon Crest
Hiro is designated human meat shield since his damage sucks.
First form is a joke.
Zophar's 2nd form.
Each hand dies in about 6 minutes.
After 12 minutes of attacking the main body he gets mad.
25 min in he uses target all.
Takes 47 minutes to kill zophar's second form (excluding his invincible period). I was scared shitless near the end because Ronfar died and I had no more Angel Tears left.
Incredibly happy to see this screen:
The entire Zophar fight including scenes takes 1:14.
Total items used in this fight: 5 Healing Nuts, 1 Passion Fruit, 1 Life Jewel, 15 Star Lights, 7 Silver Lights, 7 Angel Tears.
Return to Vane at 10:02.
Save to Epilogue at 10:13. Hiro is level 43. Up to here I imagine a time of 9:40 is doable with (unreasonable amounts of) good luck.
-Get to Lucia at level 6.
-I get Hiro to level 7 on the way down to learn Poe Sword.
-Guardian boss battle. I just use the stalemate trick to have Ruby kill him in one hit. Lvl: 10
-Exit tower and finish cutscene with Leo.
-Time here is around 38 minutes.
Getting Ronfar:
It takes around 6 minutes to get Ronfar.
It takes another 8 to leave Larpa. For the mini dungeon, 90% of the time, I can never run away from the first set of slimes, but I can for the remainder of the monsters I meet.
-Time here should be around 54 minutes.
Dalton/Dragonship Destiny:
It takes around 2 and a half minutes to get onboard the dragonship destiny. I get the long sword on Hiro (still level 10)
It takes me around 11 minutes to leave Dalton. I basically spend all my money on herbs and 2 dragonwings.
-Time here should be around 1:07.
Starlight/Illusion:
Get to Illusion in about 3 minutes.
Grab the snake crest and chain mail chests.
Finish Illusion forest in 8 minutes and meet Jean.
Hiro at level 13. Beat Plantella... it takes me almost 9 minutes to beat it because I suck.
Time here should be around 1:35.
Takkar:
Enter Takkar at 1:36.
Get both star light and passion fruit.
It takes around 6 minutes to get to the ghost manor. I pick up both the purity and wind ring.
Get star light right before boss fight.
Boss fight is RIDICULOUSLY HARD, but manageable. I enter with Hiro at lvl 15 and survive with only Jean left at 16 hp and no herbs left...
Time here is right over 2 hours.
Nota:
I get to Nota at 2:10 with pretty bad luck running away. I pick up all the chests on the way.
Get Gauss Necklace and silver Light, buy broadsword, iron shield, and silver bandana.
Time entering bridge is 2:12.
Mystic Ruins:
Enter ruins at 2:15.
Out of the Ruins in 4 minutes. I ignore the Dream Crest since it's useless and get the flame staff in the second room even though the path is longer. It makes things easier in the next dungeon.
Time here is 2:19.
Zulan:
Enter here at 2:23. I got the Life Jewel in Nota so it takes 15 seconds longer.
Enter Mountains at 2:26. It's a good thing this dungeon's chests are not out of the way since they're pretty good (Power Crest, Water Staff, Barrier and Phoenix Ring)
Takes about 5 minutes to get to the top of the mountain. Equip Lemina with Phoenix Ring, and Hiro with Barrier Ring.
Fighting the boss at level 17. Stupidly easy but long battle. 2 ATK upgrades by Lucia and 3 by Lemina let Hiro do ~190 dmg with poe sword. Hiro gets to level 20 from this battle.
I leave Zulan at 2:49.
Meribia is boring. Bought Bastard Sword and Platinum Fan for Jean. Grab Life Jewel and Earth Crest.
Enter Taben's Peak at 2:54. Get to the top in 5 minutes. I pick up everything except the herb chest.
Re-enter Meribia at 3:00.
I hate this dungeon. I seem to fail running away 90% of the time, so it takes me 8.5 minutes to reach the end.
The fight is 80% luck based I think. Since I am grossly underleveled, I need to make a sea of dead people so that the last survivor can kill them off slowly. The fight only takes 5 minutes though.
Vane:
Enter Vane at 3:24ish.
Enter Vane through cave of trials at 3:29.
Get all the chests in Vane before I leave. Equip Lemina with thieves staff.
**Note: In case people don't know, Gorgon Doll+Rubber Boots+Yellow Pajamas let Hiro run twice as long in dungeons. Downside is the person with all 3 equipped starts the battle asleep. I plan on having that be lemina when I get the yellow pajamas (Raculi). She's pretty useless as a meat shield going through dungeons anyways.
Sluice Forest:
Enter Sluice Forest at 3:36.
Enter Azado at 3:41. Equipped Hiro with Warrior Crest.
Update all gear on Hiro and Ronfar. Buy tons of Herbs and Healing Nuts. It takes about 2-3 minutes to do all this.
Night time starts at 3:46.
Get to shrine at 3:51.
Beat boss at 4:01 (hiro level 21). He's easy once I have Litany on Leo. I found out gauss necklace and healing ring can stack, but not two healing rings
I run down to get the healing crest and ring.
***Time at start of disk 2 is 4:05 with Hiro at level 24***
Pentagulia:
MYstere joins the party at 4:11.
Ronfar joins the party at 4:19.
Jean joins the party at 4:27.
Lemina joins the party at 4:34.
Exit Taben's Peak at 4:50.
Enter White Dragon Cave at 4:54. Leo is easy (4 poe swords).
Takes 8 minutes to get to boss. I try to steal chiro crests from the set of two chiro in the first floor, but fail. If anyone knows a good way to bait the crystals to break the ice pillars in the first floor it would speed things up too.
Boss takes 9 minutes to kill with Hiro at level 26. I play super carefully and accidentally use one extra starlight because I'm paranoid and lost track of how many Poe swords I used. This would be 10x easier with Lemina at lvl 32.
Leave White Dragon Cave at 5:23.
Enter Horam at 5:24.
Enter Zen Zone at 5:29. Jean finally isn't useless.
It takes around 12 minutes to beat all three rounds. The shadow dragon cult (last stage) is really nervewracking considering jean has to defend until there is only one left since she only has 190+ HP.
**Note: if I was able to steal Shiro and Chiro crests from the previous dungeon this would be much easier. Jean with snake ring and two shiro crests ensures that she dodges over half of the attacks.
It takes 6 minutes to beat Lunn. He's laughably easy. It can probably be cut by 20 seconds or so, but I forgot to equip Jean with the Warrior Crest. Also, Lunn is unable to use his flying kick if you defend and move yourself upwards at the beginning of the round, giving me an extra turn to attack whenever he puts his palms up.
Enter Blue Dragon Cave at 5:48.
The important things to get here are Revenge Crest, Anti-Magic Ring, and Plasma Ring. The only one out of the way is the revenge crest, but it makes all future fights easier (Snake+Revenge gives bonus attack every turn).
Takes 7 min to get to boss. 2 of the floors can easily be done without running into anything.
Boss takes 11 minutes... way too long.
Exit cave at 6:03.
I go back to Meribia quickly and spend all my money on Star Lights + Herbs.
Enter zabak Mines at 6:05.
Exit Zabak Mines at 6:07. Picked up all the good things too.
Enter Neo-Vane at 6:08.
Enter Neo-Trial Cave at 6:10.
Pick up Healing Ring, Clear Ring, Silver Light.
Takes 7 minutes to get through Neo-Trial Cave with semi-bad luck running away.
Hiro level 32. Including the talking, beating Borgan takes 8 minutes (or 7 turns). Didn't have to use a single item.
Enter Black Dragon Cave at 6:27.
I feel like fighting the zombies and trying to flee take the same amount of time, seeing as how fleeing almost never works in this cavern.
With good luck I manage to get past B1 with only one encounter. Same for B2.
Get to Boss Room in 6 minutes. Hiro is level 34 here, so the boss has about 4250 life. With Napalm, Ice Arrows, and Boomerang dealing 150+220+130=500dmg/turn, this should theoretically be only about 8 turns long. Not having chiro+chiro here really hurts because I am unable to WPD at the beginning of the match to conserve mana. The mana issue wouldn't be so bad either if Lemina was 36 and could use Magic Swiper.
Enter Raculi at 6:49. Get Yellow Pajamas. I now have Gorgon Doll, Rubber Boots, and Yellow Pajamas, which let me run for two to three times as long.
Enter Serak Palace at 6:51. It's better to just get the Holy Hairpin and Psycho Gauntlet for now. Everything can be looted later.
Get Althena's Aura and return to entrance at 6:53.
Time after ravaging Mauri's vagina monster is 7:14. Easy fight. Used 3 healing nuts and 4 herbs.
Time entering Red Dragon Cave is 7:15. Equipped Lemina with all the running gear. Get to Boss in 3 minutes. I only pick up Dyne's Armor and Water Ring. I will get the Shield Ring on my way out.
Takes 12 min to kill boss using 4 star lights. It's possible to do it with 3 star lights and under 10 though. Lemina can 1v1 the boss.
Leave Serak Palace at 7:37.
Althena's Fortress:
Enter Pentagulia at 7:41.
Arrive at Goddess Statue at 7:48. Equip everyone with respective endgame gear.
Time after killing her is 7:57. Only Hiro gets hurt throughout the entire match. No items or deaths.
Takes 1 minute to get to top of goddess tower.
Hiro at level 41.
Note: Important to switch gear before disc change or Ghaleon will destroy me.
**********Start of disc 3 is at 8:02*************
Vane:
Finish talking to party members and start shopping at 8:04
Get Ghaleon's Sword at 8:24. Only used 2 Herbs and 2 Healing Nuts.
Zophar's Keep:
Enter Zophar's Domain at 8:29.
Get to top at 8:38 with bad luck running from seeds.
Use one life jewel for preparation.
Items entering fight: 20 Healing Nuts, 4 Passion Fruits, 2 Life Jewels, 15 Star Lights, 12 Silver Lights, 7 Angel Tears.
ZOPHAR:
Hiro (MD) Fiend/TriRing, Revenge/Snake Crest
Ronfar (NE) Clear/Healing Ring, Red Dragon Crest
Jean- (SW) Spirit Talisman/Healing Ring, Warrior/Goddess Crest
Lemina- (SE) Wind/Stardust Ring, White Dragon/Chiro Crest
Leo- (NW) Water/Fresh Ring, Blue Dragon Crest
Hiro is designated human meat shield since his damage sucks.
First form is a joke.
Zophar's 2nd form.
Each hand dies in about 6 minutes.
After 12 minutes of attacking the main body he gets mad.
25 min in he uses target all.
Takes 47 minutes to kill zophar's second form (excluding his invincible period). I was scared shitless near the end because Ronfar died and I had no more Angel Tears left.
Incredibly happy to see this screen:
The entire Zophar fight including scenes takes 1:14.
Total items used in this fight: 5 Healing Nuts, 1 Passion Fruit, 1 Life Jewel, 15 Star Lights, 7 Silver Lights, 7 Angel Tears.
Return to Vane at 10:02.
Save to Epilogue at 10:13. Hiro is level 43. Up to here I imagine a time of 9:40 is doable with (unreasonable amounts of) good luck.
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