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Here is an idea. To avoid getting terrible luck in the lizard room, what If I do the confusion gate in 3 parts. This also makes it so I don't have to perfect run the place so I can survive the pit of shu.
Haha, internet just HAD to die on me before I could respond to your last post, BlueGlass... so here I go:
Yeah, I was thinking back and you're right, waterproof case is pretty useless. Actually, I won't be teleport out after flooding the Sun Temple since I need to get Quarth and this is the best time to do it. Actually, rather than teleport here and go to 3 from 1 like Jman, I'm actually going to fall down here, go left, and (it's tricky, but doable in segmented) get damage boosted to the dias and get the Boots in one go! Segmented runs are nice that way, no?
I have to say, I REALLY like the idea of getting Endless Corridor early, now that I'm thinking about it. It makes it so that I can start getting coins from it very early in the run, and lets get me Key Fairies early too. Delaying Bahamut until Castlevania is genius as well. Plus there's no excuse not to use Castlevania + Mahjong Wizard on Sakit. Awesome.
And haha, I didn't know you could still type YOMAR, that's awesome. I'll definitely do that earlier than I thought then.
I must say, you've been a great help so far! Thanks for that. This planning may go a lot faster than I thought it would!
Actually, now that all of us are hitting this, I have a theory. I think it has to do with stale save files. Namely, if you get the jar and save, then leave the save file around and start a new game and replace the old one, perhaps the "got 200 coin" bit doesn't get cleared. If this theory is correct, then all you have to do is DELETE the save file before starting a new game.
Luckily, this should be quite easy to prove - let's just try doing this and see if it ever shows up again. Jman, do you happen to do this as well? Could explain why it hasn't happened in your runs.
Oh, and just to mention it, I have Windows XP too. No other strange things are happening. BlueGlass, are you sure you're hitting the right spot for the warp? What else is strange about your game? Cuz that's weird... try deleting the file outright and trying again to see if that fixes anything (remember that Japanese and English versions both use the exact same save file, so it explains why just switching versions wouldn't necessary work).
Haha, yes, that goes without saying. Having to buy two sets of bullets would be embarassing more than anything.
Yeah, having to worry about the tricky Shu fight AND the lizard in one go might be a bit much. I guess when you open up the path to the back from the Guidance Gate is a good place to run and make a save. Shouldn't waste TOO much time, and in theory the time it normally takes to herd the lizard will be less than the time of you walking back from the Grail point.
By the way, while we're talking about it, I'm not totally convinced that the lizard is 100% random. I've had mixed luck with trying to "bait" him. The key is to NOT be climbing the ladder underneath him (he tends to avoid it if you do) but to stand on the floor either in front of the ladder or just to the side of it. Again, I've had mixed success, but I definitely don't remember it taking as long as it seems to take Jman in his runs. It COULD be my imagination, though...
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I don't see where you'd need waterproof case, as the only time you'd even possibly need to teleport out of water is after flooding Sun Temple. And I'd say go to Endless Corridor right after hitting the Extinction Chamber grail point. It has some quick coins and the 100 coin pot on the bottom floor, so the sooner you can start farming, the better. Then also delay Bahamut until you have Diviner Sensation+Q-bert, so you can buy Castlevania on your way up to him and never need to return to that part of the area.
And Maze of Galious doesn't require the Magatama, typing YOMAR works anyway. You don't even need to read the tablet. So you should grab that as soon as you have spears.
Fighting Sakit with Castlevania+Mahjong is fun, you can kill him well before he punches.
And Maze of Galious doesn't require the Magatama, typing YOMAR works anyway. You don't even need to read the tablet. So you should grab that as soon as you have spears.
Fighting Sakit with Castlevania+Mahjong is fun, you can kill him well before he punches.
Yeah, I was thinking back and you're right, waterproof case is pretty useless. Actually, I won't be teleport out after flooding the Sun Temple since I need to get Quarth and this is the best time to do it. Actually, rather than teleport here and go to 3 from 1 like Jman, I'm actually going to fall down here, go left, and (it's tricky, but doable in segmented) get damage boosted to the dias and get the Boots in one go! Segmented runs are nice that way, no?
I have to say, I REALLY like the idea of getting Endless Corridor early, now that I'm thinking about it. It makes it so that I can start getting coins from it very early in the run, and lets get me Key Fairies early too. Delaying Bahamut until Castlevania is genius as well. Plus there's no excuse not to use Castlevania + Mahjong Wizard on Sakit. Awesome.
And haha, I didn't know you could still type YOMAR, that's awesome. I'll definitely do that earlier than I thought then.
I must say, you've been a great help so far! Thanks for that. This planning may go a lot faster than I thought it would!
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And the fact that we're all three getting the missing coin glitch means it can't be my computer, so I wonder what the cause is. Do either of you also have the missing warp in Confusion Gate?
Actually, now that all of us are hitting this, I have a theory. I think it has to do with stale save files. Namely, if you get the jar and save, then leave the save file around and start a new game and replace the old one, perhaps the "got 200 coin" bit doesn't get cleared. If this theory is correct, then all you have to do is DELETE the save file before starting a new game.
Luckily, this should be quite easy to prove - let's just try doing this and see if it ever shows up again. Jman, do you happen to do this as well? Could explain why it hasn't happened in your runs.
Oh, and just to mention it, I have Windows XP too. No other strange things are happening. BlueGlass, are you sure you're hitting the right spot for the warp? What else is strange about your game? Cuz that's weird... try deleting the file outright and trying again to see if that fixes anything (remember that Japanese and English versions both use the exact same save file, so it explains why just switching versions wouldn't necessary work).
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Also TheMaxican. Make sure you pick up A1 spirit before getting the air plane model for obvious reasons.
Haha, yes, that goes without saying.
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Here is an idea. To avoid getting terrible luck in the lizard room, what If I do the confusion gate in 3 parts. This also makes it so I don't have to perfect run the place so I can survive the pit of shu.
Yeah, having to worry about the tricky Shu fight AND the lizard in one go might be a bit much. I guess when you open up the path to the back from the Guidance Gate is a good place to run and make a save. Shouldn't waste TOO much time, and in theory the time it normally takes to herd the lizard will be less than the time of you walking back from the Grail point.
By the way, while we're talking about it, I'm not totally convinced that the lizard is 100% random. I've had mixed luck with trying to "bait" him. The key is to NOT be climbing the ladder underneath him (he tends to avoid it if you do) but to stand on the floor either in front of the ladder or just to the side of it. Again, I've had mixed success, but I definitely don't remember it taking as long as it seems to take Jman in his runs. It COULD be my imagination, though...
