ktwo's runs have been removed from the site [edit: they've been reposted]

2012-03-04 01:40:36 am

First of all, thanks for the words in this thread. I would like to reflect the nice things said here on the persons pronouncing them. You're great people that I respect. I would have preferred a more discrete exit, but I understand that a bunch of runs suddenly disappearing from sda is bound to make some noise.

The short story of the reason for my decision is a disagreement with the policy here. Anyone interested in some more details can have a look at my recent forum activity and I'm sure you'll easily see what bothers me. I don't really want to say more than that on this topic (and I'm sure the admin's would also appreciate if the contention of a locked topic is not dragged on in other places of the forum).

I have had my stream removed from w00ty, but that is mostly because I haven't planned to stream much in the time to come. I may request to be reinstated some time, provided my current decision has not made me a person non-grata around here. I'll probably pop in to say hi in some streams every now and then (again, provided I'm still welcome).

First of all, thanks for the words in this thread. I would like to reflect the nice things said here on the persons pronouncing them. You're great people that I respect. I would have preferred a more discrete exit, but I understand that a bunch of runs suddenly disappearing from sda is bound to make some noise.

The short story of the reason for my decision is a disagreement with the policy here. Anyone interested in some more details can have a look at my recent forum activity and I'm sure you'll easily see what bothers me. I don't really want to say more than that on this topic (and I'm sure the admin's would also appreciate if the contention of a locked topic is not dragged on in other places of the forum).

I have had my stream removed from w00ty, but that is mostly because I haven't planned to stream much in the time to come. I may request to be reinstated some time, provided my current decision has not made me a person non-grata around here. I'll probably pop in to say hi in some streams every now and then (again, provided I'm still welcome).

andrewg

2012-03-04 06:36:57 am

Hi! I'm andrewg!

That's sad to hear ktwo. Whatever the specific reasons for your choice, just know that you are definitely liked around here. You're a great runner and a great person.

ZenicReverie

2012-03-04 10:18:12 am

Waiting hurts my soul...

I don't think anyone has any ill-will towards you ktwo. I respect your decision, and understand it. I hope to see you around. Take care and have fun.

VorpalEdge

Edit history:

VorpalEdge: 2013-03-25 10:13:26 pm

VorpalEdge: 2013-03-25 10:10:14 pm

VorpalEdge: 2013-03-25 10:06:29 pm

VorpalEdge: 2013-03-25 10:06:28 pm

VorpalEdge: 2013-03-25 10:05:09 pm

2013-03-25 10:03:40 pm

welcome to the machine

this thread is a lie. ktwo's runs were never removed!!

actually, he chose to resubmit them, so they are back up. By they, I mean Addams Family NES, Journey To Silius, and Power Blade. Enjoy.

cobra triangle and solomon's key were not reposted, as both have since been obsoleted. The verification thread for the new cobra triangle run is around somewhere, and that should be on the front page soon. The new solomon's key run(s) are in verification, so assuming they pass, you'll have things to look forward to. It's been indicated to us that we shouldn't bother reposting the existing runs in the meantime, but if you'd like to watch them (they are, after all, good runs), they are and will forever be available on archive.org.

I would also like to take this opportunity to announce a change in policy. SDA will no longer remove runs at request, at least not without a reason we agree with (cheating, etc). We haven't yet decided on exactly what legalese we want to use to indicate this (we will eventually put it on the submit page), but the gist of it is that when you submit to us, we get a permanent, irrevocable license to host it. Events in the time since the original posting of this thread have convinced us that this is necessary.

I don't really want to go into more detail, but if this seems heavy-handed to you, remember that SDA has never advertised that we would remove runs at request as a condition of submission. It's not something we've ever promised runners, and we've never been under any sort of obligation to do it. We basically did it for ktwo as a favor, but there were other run removal requests after his. One of those turned out much less amicably, such that we feel we have to be explicit about it. And here we are.

but stupid stuff like that isn't what speedrunning's about. let's welcome ktwo back to the site.

this thread is a lie.  ktwo's runs were never removed!!

actually, he chose to resubmit them, so they are back up.  By they, I mean [url=http://speeddemosarchive.com/AddamsFamilyNES.html]Addams Family NES[/url], [url=http://speeddemosarchive.com/JourneyToSilius.html]Journey To Silius[/url], and [url=http://speeddemosarchive.com/PowerBlade.html]Power Blade[/url].  Enjoy.

cobra triangle and solomon's key were not reposted, as both have since been obsoleted.  The verification thread for the new cobra triangle run is around somewhere, and that should be on the front page soon.  The new solomon's key run(s) are in verification, so assuming they pass, you'll have things to look forward to.  It's been indicated to us that we shouldn't bother reposting the existing runs in the meantime, but if you'd like to watch them (they are, after all, good runs), they are and will forever be available on archive.org.

I would also like to take this opportunity to announce a change in policy.  SDA will no longer remove runs at request, at least not without a reason we agree with (cheating, etc).  We haven't yet decided on exactly what legalese we want to use to indicate this (we will eventually put it on the submit page), but the gist of it is that when you submit to us, we get a permanent, irrevocable license to host it.  Events in the time since the original posting of this thread have convinced us that this is necessary.

I don't really want to go into more detail, but if this seems heavy-handed to you, remember that SDA has [i]never[/i] advertised that we would remove runs at request as a condition of submission.  It's not something we've ever promised runners, and we've never been under any sort of obligation to do it.  We basically did it for ktwo as a favor, but there were other run removal requests after his.  One of those turned out much less amicably, such that we feel we have to be explicit about it.  And here we are.

but stupid stuff like that isn't what speedrunning's about.  let's welcome ktwo back to the site.

PJ

2013-03-25 10:08:17 pm