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Hi SDA. I'm new to the forums and the main reason I registered is because I'm starting a Jak 3 segmented speedrun. I just want to clear up some stuff first.

Jak 3 has a constant and impossible to turn off auto saving feature. That can be quite annoying, i tested how it would be faster so in the first segment I choose to start a game without saving and saved manually at the end of it, from now on every segment will be constantly saved while I am progressing, but that doesn't mean i will stop playing and segment right away. That will mess up the in game timer since i will have to save on the diferent saving slots to keep that part from being overwrote by autosave. I wanted to make sure that timing the game manually and having autosave on is ok within SDA rules. ( The game doesn't fade while autosaving so you can clearly see when I am segmenting or not. )

About the segments, the game is constantly saving you can make segments for every 2 minutes, but since some parts are very easy / repetitive and loading the game will affect your latter positioning, I choose to make segments where either loading the game will give me an advantage, when a hard part is about to begin, or when the segment I am running is nearly 5 - 8 minutes long. Is minimizing the ammount of segments like this advised or should I make a tremendous ammount of segments due to the autosaving feature?

I haven't seen many advanced glitches and tricks in videos about Jak 3 that i didn't know about, i guess this game hasn't been seriously speedrunned yet. I made the route myself and I'll be using a lot of death warps ( if destroying your car is considered a death) as well as little timesaving tricks and glitches ( such as using circle to hover, the jetboard to skip a lot of parts in dungeons, etc.), without the use of any of the in game available cheats or hero mode.

I would apreciate any advanced knowledge about this game and I hope I'm fitting the conditions of SDA. If there's anything else i need to know before continuing the speedrun please tell me about it  Smiley

Oh, also i will be recording the game with a Time Machine TV ( records on HD)  then transfer it to the computer via USB, I guess it's okay to record this way , just wanted to mention it.


Thanks for the attention.  Grin
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Quote from Blaze:
Jak 3 has a constant and impossible to turn off auto saving feature. That can be quite annoying
Just remove your memory card to stop auto saving
then i will get the  message : the memory card has been removed which takes about 3 seconds to show up.
Next run officially planned. Currently practicing.
Quote from Blaze:
then i will get the  message : the memory card has been removed which takes about 3 seconds to show up.


Is that faster than the autosave time?
two rows of links on main page pretty nifty
Quote from scarper42:
Quote from Blaze:
then i will get the  message : the memory card has been removed which takes about 3 seconds to show up.


Is that faster than the autosave time?

The autosave happens while you still play.  I think that the memory card message is better than autosaving over your up-until-then perfect game save.
Autosaving is a lot faster, it avoids having to save the game when a segment ends and avoids the memory card message. I do the first segment without autosave, because the first time you use it a message shows up and I used that message in a part i had to wait for the game to load the desert door which takes sometime to open if I just keep going without saving.
I have a route for a Jak 3 Hero Run but never tested it. The save warp spots mainly. And theres a few neat tricks I found when running through the game also. Like skipping the first Dax mission in the volcano, skipping half the eco mine. and there's a few others. If you would like I could make a video of some tricks.

Jak 3 Hero Mode Seg'd Route

Spargus = JB
Haven = Zoomer
Wasteland = DH

Act 1

-Seg 1

-Complete Arena 1
-Kanga Rat mission
-Unlock Satellite
-Save

-Seg 2

-Complete Driving Tut
-Beat Kleiver in Race
-Save

-Seg 3

-Artifacts race 1
-OPTIONAL SEG BREAK
-Leaper Race
-Save

-Seg 4

-Kill MH's in Wasteland
-Return to Spargus
-Save after Damas door

-Seg 5

-Arena 2
-Capture Wild Leapers
-Save

-Seg 6

-Climb Monk Temple
-Glide to Volcano
-Save

-Seg 7

-Use Leaper to skip Dax 1
-Complete Dax 2
-Obtain Invisibility
-Go through warp
-Save

-Seg 8
-Leap with JB over spikes
-Shortcut through poles
-Complete MT 1
-Destroy Vehicle
-Save in Damas's Palace

-Seg 9

-Rescue Wastelanders
-Defeat Satellite with RPG
-Return to Spargus
-Save

-Seg 10

-Turret Challenge
-Save right after damas door

-Seg 11

-Arena, Final
-Save outside nest

-Seg 12

-Destroy eggs in MH nest
-Return to Spargus
-Save

-Seg 13

-Take DH and defend Ashelin
-Save inside Monk Temple

-Seg 14

-Complete tests
-Get Flash Freeze
-Save

-Seg 15

-Ride over spinning pillars with JB
-Complete MT 2
-Go through catacomb subrails
-Save after cutscene in mines

-Seg 16

-Take path to left with JB
-Save in rat room

-Seg 17

-Skip first wheel
-Skip third wheel
-Skip fifth wheel
-Save on train

-Seg 18

-Escort train (BR)
-Kill Precursor Robot (use gyro on splitters, PM on cart)
-Save


Act 2

-Seg 19

-Go through Sewers
-Skip lowering rail
-Complete sewers
-Save in NO

-Seg 20

-Destroy BBs
-Destroy KG barrier with missle
-Gun course 1
-Save

-Seg 21

-Destroy Sniper Cannons
-Save in Sewers

-Seg 22

-Complete Sewers
-Destroy Dark Eco Tanks
-Save in HF

-Seg 23

-Kill dark plants
-Save

-Seg 24

-Destroy eco grid with Jinx
-Save

-Seg 25

-Hijack eco vehicle
-Defend port
-Gun Course 2
-Save

-Seg 26

-Destroy KG barrier with BB
-Travel to FHQ
-Save

-Seg 27

-Defend FHQ
-Save in sewers

-Seg 28

-Find switch
-Save in elevator

-Seg 29

-Go to PS
-Eco grid game
-Go in AT
-Save

-Seg 30

-Artifact race 2
-Save

-Seg 31

-Destroy Marauder Stronghold
-Save

-Seg 32

-Kill Metalpedes
-Start MH mission
-Save

-Seg 33

-Kill MHs
-Save in Damas Palace

-Seg 34

-Defend Front Gate
-Go in AT
-Save

-Seg 35

-Travel to HF
-Beat ring challenge
-Save

-Seg 36

-Go to FHQ Hangar
-Destroy WF Defenses
-Save in WF

-Seg 37

-Explore WF
-OPTIONAL SEG BREAK
-Kill Cyber Errol
-Save

Act 3

-Seg 38

-Travel to MT
-Complete MT, Final
-Destroy Vehicle
-Save

-Seg 39

-Travel to HC
-Fly glitch over white security wall
-Fly glitch into Palace Ruins
-Save

-Seg 40

-Reach Catacombs
-Save

-Seg 41

-Break through ruins
-Save

-Seg 42

-Reach Precursor Core
-Save

-Seg 43

-Destroy DMS
-Save

-Seg 44

-Kill DMM
-OPTIONAL SEG BREAK
-Kill Errol
im bringing this back from the dead.  this game has speedrun written all over it... and im sure we can find more sequence breaks.  im a pussy, so im not doing it.  Tongue ill gladly help find and test stuff though. haha

im poppin this game in right now to look for stuff.
I was hoping this thread would get bumped one day. That old hero mode route I made, I never really tested the save warps. I know a quite a few speedtricks I never got around to recording. Such as skipping the first time you go it alone as daxter with a Leaper. Also a few extra tricks with the Jetboard (hero mode). I'd hope to see a run completed one day. I'll be glad to help out in finding more tricks.
mind giving the details on how you skip the first time you go it alone with daxter?
Jump across that gap with the Leaper where Daxter would usually push down that rock so you can cross the bridge. There's a piece of land where you can land on with the leaper. Also, I should mention that you can bring the leaper all the way to Daxter's second mission by jumping up that ladder. I'll see if I can record these tricks soon.
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Voloxer: 2009-07-27 07:25:32 pm
ill try it out. Wink im sure there are more sequence breaks possible to...

EDIT: right after you get out of the elevator and get to the eco mines... you can turn around and hop on a ledge the ledge behind you and use your jet board to jump across the canyon and skip a small bit of the eco mines. its kinda small, but it still saves time.

EDIT 2: ok... there is a slight chance that we can skip the majority of the volcano with the leaper.. ill do more testing

EDIT 3: it is possible to skip almost the whole volcano mission. you gotta get the leaper, then go back to the entrance and look up, youll find a narrow path that you come out of after you get invisibilty.  well (without a video i cant explain exactly) theres a rock that you can jump on and (with the leaper of course) you can jump up to that path.. then you follow that path up and have to jump on even more small stalagmites (or whatever) at the end, and once you get to the ledge before the ladder that leads up to the dark eco crystal.. kill yourself to get off the leaper, get the invisibilty and complete the mission.

it sounds rather complicated... but its not.  it saves quite a bit of time.
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Unreal: 2009-07-27 10:51:46 pm
Sweet, I recorded your trick along with a few other eco mine speed tricks. I'll also try to record that act 3 sequence break where you can glitch fly to the Palace ruins early. Now, if I can just find a .mov converter that works I can edit these. <_<

edit:Nevermind they got corrupted and I can't figure a way to convert/upload it anyway. I may as well tell you the eco mine tricks. First was when you first enter the mine. After the small cutscene take the left path to get to the elevator early. Use the board to clear the gaps. (L1 tricks are useful for more hang time) Next 5 tricks skipped using each of the 5 rat wheels. Use your jet board to clear them.  The act 3 sequence break is when you glitch fly as light Jak (X O X O) over the white security pass barracade over to the Palace Ruins early.
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Voloxer: 2009-07-28 10:56:27 am
i would really like to find some sequence breaks in act 2.
They are many sequence breaks which can be done in this game, and many with the jet board, and (in hero mode) you can finish it in less than 1h30

I did a speedrun of this game 3 month ago but my video quality was very bad, but now I have a DVD recorder and so I have a decent quality, maybe I will post a speedrun (I restarted it there are some days)

if you want to see my old speedrun (hero mode with some cheats, but I will do my new without cheat), go here :

you can read some explications in the segment 1, now it's the route I will use to did my new speedrun :


-Seg 1

-Complete arena 1
-Save

-Seg 2

-Glitch : skipp the cutscene to have access to garare
-Go to monk temple (and quit for the last time of the game spargus  Wink )
-Glide to volcano
-Save

-Seg 3

-Glitch : go directly to the dark eco crystal (you have to death abuse)
-Come back in the monk temple
-Save

-Seg 4

-Obtain light jak power
-Exit temple and save to be out of the temple (in desert)

-Seg 5

-Obtain one boost for your car
-Glitch : pass the metal heads door
-Save into the cavern

-Seg 6

-Destroy eggs with the "desert flea" (I don't now the english name)
-Death abuse (because your car is not strong in comparaison with the normal car) to save time
-Go to the garage
-Save

-Seg 7

-Defend Ashelin
-Go to monk temple
-Save at the start of the new route

-Seg 8

-Get the new light jak power
-Pass the last bridge without your new power
-Save at the catacomb subrails (maybe not necessary)

-Seg 9

-Perfect catacomb subrails
-Save in the mine

-Seg 10

-glitch : skip an important part of the road
-Save after the big elevator

-Seg 11 (the harder for a perfect run)

-Glitch : skipp ALL (theoricaly) the "beast cheakpoints" without use the beasts (the second is like impossible)
-Save

-Seg 12

-Escort train
(-Maybe skip the elevator if he don't appear, this happened to me only one time)
-Save

-Seg 13

-Kill precursor robot
-Save into the sewers

-Seg 14

-Complete sewers
-Save

-Seg 15

-Destroy "spiders" (some complications in hero mode)
-Save

-Seg 16

-Perfect missile mission
-Save

-Seg 17

-Gun course 1
-Save in the harbor (maybe not)

-Seg 18

-Destroy sniper cannons
-Save (maybe not)

-Seg 19

-Go to the sewers
-Save

-Seg 20

-Complete sewers
-Save

-Seg 21

-Destroy Dark Eco Tanks
-Save

-Seg 22

-Glitch : skipp the metal heads door
-Go to the top of the tower
-Save (91% and about 1h00 in game time)

-Seg 23

-Go directly to the catacombs with the fly glitch (XOXO...)
-Save

-Seg 24

-Pass catacombs (with some tricks)
-Save in the car section

-Seg 25

-Pass catacombs (with the car)
-Save (maybe not)

-Seg 26

-Perfect precursor mission
-Save

-Seg 27

-Find Errol
-Save (maybe not)

-Seg 28 (very small)

-Use jet board to escape the station
-Save

-Seg 29

-Destroy Errol machine with the car
-Save (maybe not)

-Seg 30

-Kill Errol
-Auto-saving



With the first version of this route (see the videos), I finish the game in 1h22, major changements are that I go first into the monk temple before skip the metal heads door and the glitch of segment 23

without any cheats, my target is sub 1h25, the numbers of segments can vary between 24 and 30, and each new segment give a malus of 4s in game time (the chargement time)

And I will make a special video of many glitchs I found myself (or not) but which are useless in this speedrun

At present, I did 12 segments  Smiley
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Voloxer: 2009-07-28 07:12:59 pm
aw shit... i knew about glitching through the metal head door, but i completely forgot about it. ill go through the route now. Wink that jetboard glitch at the beginning is hard as fuck... that one is definately a SS killer.
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Unreal: 2009-07-28 07:30:03 pm
Very nice, more people that know some Jak 3 stuff.  Wink I'm going to watch your run later tonight but I have two things about the route. To get the dark invisibility early you don't have to use death abuse to trigger the cutscene. If you jump near the top of the ladder the cutscene will trigger. Also, iirc on my playthrough of this game a couple years ago I skipped metal head tower all together by glitch flying to the Palace ruins early. So right after I got light jak's flying power I headed over to the white security wall.

edit: Oh, wait I didn't fully read the route. You skipped the War factory. Hmm, so glitching into the metal head tower early is a must?
yea... basically as soon as you can get into the metal head part of new haven city, you can skip 90% of the game.
What I'm saying is can you just glitch into Palace Ruins early without ever entering/completing Metal Head tower to save even more time?
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Voloxer: 2009-07-28 09:58:17 pm
you dont have light jak wings when you have access to the metal head door... you would have to play even farther into act 2 to get the wings (which would take way longer) to perform the break... but im guessing if you glitch into that door as soon as you have access to it and complete the tower, then you will have light jak wings and THEN you can glitch into the palace ruins.

you are skipping 76% of act 2 and 50% of act 3.
the light jak wings (and all the life points improve) only appear when you complete the tower

I forgot to say that but for some reasons in act 1, destroy eggs in the metal heads cavern is not enough to have access to Ashelin mission and you also need to have the first light jak power

So you can't skipp more missions of act 1, and the only improvements possible are go to sewers (for the second time) earlier or go to palace ruins earlier (or maybe get light jak wings earlier in the start of act 2)
so the route you posted does NOT work?
The route I posted does work, I just said the only improvements that can be found are the list I mentioned in my last post
ahh... well then i guess the question would be single segment or no.
with this glitch ( ) you can go directly to catacombs and skipp 52% of the game in one minute  Cheesy

now sub 1h00 is possible (0h58 I think)