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I have seen it in the news page, seems like you are paying for dreamhost hosting. Nothing wrong with that, and it really seems like a nice offer.

The surprising thing is the claims about us.archive being slow from far away. As I'm writing this, I'm downloading from Europe 10 files at 2 mbit/s each (20 mbit/s total, 2 megabytes per second).

If download speed decreases as you get away from a server, the problem usually is the TCP receive window, which is the max. ammount of on-flight data (max speed = TCPRWin/ping). (It could be a saturated link between the server and you too, but that is much more strange)

This can be workarounded:
a) Getting many files at once (the limit is per TCP connection; that is, per download)
b) Using download accelerators (they request many parts of a file at once)
c) Increasing the TCP window

In Windows 9x/Me, the window was 8K by default, and in 2000/XP it is 16K, which is just ridiculous for fast connections (max. 16K/sec with 1000ms ping, 32 with 500, 100 with 166...). In Longhorn/Vista, it will be adaptive up to a maximum of 16 megs, that is, 1000 times bigger.

It can be changed creating a DWORD registry entry called TCPWindowSize in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\ with the desired size as the value (a reasonable size to start is 256000, for example).

Contrary to popular belief, that is the only registry value you have to set, Windows will use window scaling automatically and will round the value to the nearest MSS size. A reboot is requered. To test the results, you can visit http://www.speedguide.net:8117 or just use ethereal to sniff you own traffic.

The default size for linux is 180K, I don't know about Macs.

Better dedicated hosting can get better speeds withouth doing this because they automatically serve the content from places that are close to the request, reducing the "ping" (well, RTT).
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Radix: 2006-01-09 07:05:19 pm
I'm addicted to games
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The surprising thing is the claims about us.archive being slow from far away. As I'm writing this, I'm downloading from Europe 10 files at 2 mbit/s each (20 mbit/s total, 2 megabytes per second).

If download speed decreases as you get away from a server, the problem usually is the TCP receive window, which is the max. ammount of on-flight data (max speed = TCPRWin/ping). (It could be a saturated link between the server and you too, but that is much more strange)

This can be workarounded:
a) Getting many files at once (the limit is per TCP connection; that is, per download)
b) Using download accelerators (they request many parts of a file at once)
c) Increasing the TCP window

In Windows 9x/Me, the window was 8K by default, and in 2000/XP it is 16K, which is just ridiculous for fast connections (max. 16K/sec with 1000ms ping, 32 with 500, 100 with 166...). In Longhorn/Vista, it will be adaptive up to a maximum of 16 megs, that is, 1000 times bigger.

It can be changed creating a DWORD registry entry called TCPWindowSize in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\ with the desired size as the value (a reasonable size to start is 256000, for example).


Well a lot of people say they only get 10-30 k/s from us.archive, and I'm lucky if I get 60 myself, with my connection being capable of much more.

When downloading from archive to dreamhost, we saw 400+ k/s.

I had before assumed that us.archive's connection was completely saturated and that's why the speeds were crap, but suddenly i was like ok, maybe not.

I guess people can try your reg tweak and see if it helps with us.archive downloads. At the moment though, there's 15 seeds and 29 downloaders on the tooie normal quality. That should be fast.  Wink
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Yoshi348: 2006-01-09 08:14:14 pm
dinosaur from the past
Half the time. I usually got 24kB speeds from regular downloads... right now it flucuates between 40's and 10's. Actually, shit I just hit 8. I'm thinking the average is about the same as I was getting before. Of course I live in California...
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checking ping to ia300207.us.archive.org.. 180-190ms. the ping is fairly constant.

that means: maximum of 86 kB/sec based on ping/TCP Window Size


my speeds are way slower than that, usually around 15-20.

I tried downloading with windows and with linux, from the same internet connection, and there was no noticable speed difference.


ssh to a box..
ping: around 160
download-speed: 30 kb/sec


doesn't seem to be related to my receive window.
I'm addicted to games
So much for that.
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Half the time. I usually got 24kB speeds from regular downloads... right now it flucuates between 40's and 10's. Actually, shit I just hit 8. I'm thinking the average is about the same as I was getting before. Of course I live in California...


Same scenario for me... I too live in CA.

I have my TCP recieve window and all that stuff optimized for sure (I frequent dslreports.com).
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Nemo: 2006-01-10 12:49:12 pm
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
flashget -> 10 part download -> fullspeed
I use netpumper for downloading. up to 180 kb/s (from germany) Shocked
TIOLET!
Here from Sweden it seems to be very random. Sometimes I can get 230KB/s per file and sometimes it can't even reach above 15KB/s. Downloading from the Europe archive (when available) always give me 200+.
Heaven or Hell! Let's Rock!
i download from france just two files at same time
i use free download manager and it always download beetween 200 and 400 ko/s
hello there
I used to get around 76kb/sec but it's recently gone down to 15kb/sec (from the Europe archives) for me... probably just my computer though, it does it with downloads from all websites.
i just download the metroid 2 video and i got this for download:
from us server, i got a low 24 to 50 kb/s
bboth from euro, i got a good +200 kb/s
and im from canada O_o
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Staralfur: 2006-01-17 06:59:42 pm
hello there
If that's the case, maybe the US server will be faster for me? Tongue

EDIT: Okay, segment 1 of kip's hard 22% Echoes run:

Europe: 51-57kb/sec
US: 16-18kb/sec

Heh, maybe not.

I'm on 576kb broadband, btw.
Heaven or Hell! Let's Rock!
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If that's the case, maybe the US server will be faster for me? Tongue


Maybe!
because me,from france!
i use only the us sever, never the european! Huh?
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Bp_: 2006-01-17 07:06:41 pm
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i just download the metroid 2 video and i got this for download:
from us server, i got a low 24 to 50 kb/s
bboth from euro, i got a good +200 kb/s
and im from canada O_o


i jsut did a little test from where i work ( a bit sower then my home connection ) here wha ti got rom the metroid run ( to stay at same thing ):
first segment : U.S.  around 50 kb/s
first segment : Euro around 210kb/s

i guess Quebec love the euro server O_o ? Smiley
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nate: 2006-01-18 03:02:38 am
true european archive.org servers have been confirmed to be faster from anywhere in the world, except perhaps in parts of california.