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Stating 6 as a goal and getting 7 is good I suppose.



right, an hour worth of difference is awesome.
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Carcinogen: 2008-05-18 01:22:55 am
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Stating 6 as a goal and getting 7 is good I suppose.



right, an hour worth of difference is awesome.


Well, nobody really knows what time to shoot for. If there are improvements to be made, so be it... After all, what if the game's threshold is around 7?
Expert Donkey Fister



reminds me of hl2dq lol
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
It seems too hard to control to really use, but it might be that this guy just hasn't spent time researching the glitch.
Yes, a Masterchief riding a coffee table.
Anyone thought about running this yet?

If you get your gun out when you arrive at your destination while in taxis he will stop the car quicker.
Has anyone here checked out the social club hall of fame? The current fastest time for beating the game is 9 hours exactly and the fastest time for 100% is 15:07:53.
King Laskdjf
Would we be allowed to use the auto-save as a savewarp feature during segments? Like, use savewarp to get from point A to point B during segment X, not as an actual save and quit.

As for a route, I don't think there's anything that we can do other than completing every mission, because you need to complete all 90-94 missions to finish the story, right?
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KingCTTR: 2008-05-29 08:52:43 am
CTTR Master and Spyro 2 Master
Im not running this but i found a few things:
1.The mission "first date" which is the only neccesary date in the game can be shortened. When you go into the bowling game just press quit n you will skip the whole bowling game and can still pass the mission.
2.Get a pistol before the misson "Bleed Out" and you can just shoot th enemies. I don't think you can shoot Dardan before he gets in the car though so you may still have to chase him.
3.If auto-save warping is allowed(even as a segment save and quit) it can be used when you finish a mission for Vlad and you're quite far away from his place when the game autosaves reload the autosave file and you'll be at your safehouse, right near Vlad's place.
4.Taxis are very fast to get around before you get Roman's free taxis use the yellow ones. The yellow ones are faster anyway cause you don't have to wait for them to get to you like with Romans. Though the yellow ones cost money.
Also do you have to do all of Little jacob's missions to beat the game?
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Also do you have to do all of Little jacob's missions to beat the game?

There is 90 main story missions to do. There are 2 missions with the Little Jacob tag on it. As for the Drug Delivery missions they are not required to beat the game, only for 100%.
King Laskdjf
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Also do you have to do all of Little jacob's missions to beat the game?

There is 90 main story missions to do. There are 2 missions with the Little Jacob tag on it. As for the Drug Delivery missions they are not required to beat the game, only for 100%.

There are between 90 and 94. You need to do all the Jacob missions as there's a mission group that cannot be unlocked until you finished Jacob. Basically, the only missions that have a marker on the map that you do not have to do are the assassination missions.
Yes, a Masterchief riding a coffee table.
Why dont we start geting a little guide of knowledge going ready for whover tries to run this. They might be waiting for it to come out on PC though like most GTA's but what the heck.
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adzicents: 2008-05-30 05:27:59 am
King Laskdjf
Yeah, I'll give it another playthrough on the weekend. Maybe it'll further motivate me to get those last 50 Pigeons too...

I'd run it if I had a DVD player that could read DVDs.

EDIT: Oh, I also have the PS3 AND 360 versions (long story) so if there's any heard of version differences I can go find out.
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
adzidents - You are saying that you own both versions and you will give it "another" playthrough on the weekend. Does this mean that you've finished the game on one system already?
King Laskdjf
Yes, I've finished the game on one system already... In fact I've finished it twice on my 360. The PS3 is my brother's console but I'm sure he'll allow me to check for version differences.
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Snuvs: 2008-05-31 03:30:11 pm
Ok heres the little shortcuts I found.

Right at the beginning do a U-Turn at the docks and right as you pass the containers make a left and follow the road south. You should pop out closer to the "mansion."

On It's your call you can take a shortcut through the park. You should be able to hit a hill and jump over the fence to and from the hardware store if you pass through the park. Also right as you drop Roman off turn your car around. Get your cell phone out and ready so right as it says to call Roman just hit A, then hang up the sec he picks up.

After Michelle calls you for a date start to drive to her place and right as you get close you should receive a call from Roman, so just turn towards him right as you are about the receive his call.

On Bleed Out drive your car onto the basketball court. Right after it triggers the cutscene run back to your car and run over both guys. When you fight Dardan try to punch him out  the window. The fall backwards has killed him everytime.

On the First Date I like to drive her car onto the docks where the bowling alley is located. Also the skipping of the game saves time.

On Bull in a China Shop I like to take a taxi there, and right as you get dropped off go and pick up the brick that you will have to throw and then go into the marker for the shop. This way you can just aim at the door and throw the brick.

On Ivan the Not So Terrible you can shoot and kill him as hes running from the roofs. This will save a bit of time.

Those are the shortcuts I have found so far.

EDIT: I'm pissed I can't get the next set of missions with Little Jacob or Faustin. Most of the time calling them leads you to the next set, but its not happening. I think by sleeping several time you will receive a cal.

At this point I have done the first Faustin Mission and the 1 Little Jacob mission in an hour. So I have done 14 missions so far.

EDIT2: NVM I just found out what I was supposed to do. I was supposed to call Roman again after doing the first Faustin Mission.
King Laskdjf
I haven't tested this yet, but if we're getting in a car that we KNOW is going to be locked, it may be faster to shoot the window open rather than go through that lengthy cut-scene of him smashing the window.
I'm the guy who complains yet never submits XD
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I haven't tested this yet, but if we're getting in a car that we KNOW is going to be locked, it may be faster to shoot the window open rather than go through that lengthy cut-scene of him smashing the window.

yeh i always do that
Expert Donkey Fister
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On Bull in a China Shop I like to take a taxi there, and right as you get dropped off go and pick up the brick that you will have to throw and then go into the marker for the shop. This way you can just aim at the door and throw the brick.


you can just shoot the window with the pistol, prolly even do a drive by
destroy them with lazers
Ok I’m not planning on running this but I wanted to be part of helping someone do this so I have sat and played through the first lot of missions and wrote the first part of speed guide to the game.  This is for X360 but I’m sure the PS3 version is no different.

First 8 missions in 00:36:07  could have been quicker crashed 3 times.

Note: You can drive into the yellow markers at top speed your car will stop automatically so don’t slow down.
Note: You need to know were the markers appear so you can drive to people before they ring you.
Note: Have auto save on.

SEGMENT 1

The Cousins Bellic

Driving only. Basically drive fast and don’t crash. After saving at Roman’s keep loading game until there is a police car when you walk outside your going to need its shotgun for later.

It’s Your Call

Drive to the marked area taking a shortcut across the park. 180 the car into the spot and let Roman out. Answer his call then hang up straight away. For some reason a taxi will always come from the end your cars facing and so will the Albanians. Get your phone out ready on Romans name for when they turn up and as soon as Niko begins his line ring Roman. Drive back and your done. Leave your car at the other entrance of the taxi firm and wait.

Threes a Crowd

Drive to were the girls are and 180 the car into the spot. Skip cut scene and your car will be facing the right way. Then just simple drive to Michelle’s. Start driving to the clothes shop straight  away. Go in, skip instructions and buy the jeans straight in front of you. Then head back to Michelle’s and park outside her house. Except her offer and the mission should start straight away.

First Date

Burn it to the carnival and when you reach the marker Niko and Michelle will get out the car. Get straight back in and drive to the bowling. Run inside hitting the A button and run into your lane. Hit LB to quit straight away and run back to the car. Pretty shitty first date but o well. Just drive back to Michelle’s and your done. From here drive to the hospital Roman will ring you on route for a telling off. Don’t go to near the hospital or he will be asked to be picked up from the other further away one. Drive him back to the depot, skip cut scene and start driving to the basketball nets to save Roman. Ring him on route.

Bleed Out

Upon arriving at the nets get out your car and run over to save Roman. Instead of fighting the two blokes just use that shotgun from the police car to blow them both away. Then run to Romans car and chase Darden until he gets out his car. Darden will drive as fast as you chase so this section is upto how fast you are with the chasing. When you get to the section where he gets out his car block the stairs with your car and shotgun him as he runs for the stairs. The go drop Roman off and wait for his next mission.

Easy Fare

Fairly random this mission. Its all down to skill with driving. Get to Jermaine as quick as you can. Get to his destination as quick as you can. Get away from the police as quick as you can and drop him off as quick as you can. Then head back for Romans next mission.

Jamaican Heat

Go pick up Jacob and drive through the park as a shortcut. The next section can’t really go much quicker. Aim for the head and take all four men out as quickly as possible. Drive to the next section and again take out the three men as quickly as possible. Then drop Jacob off and head to were his next mission starts.

Concrete Jungle

This missions is simple but can go wrong so easily when your slow close to the end of this segment. Drive to where the deal is and just run all 3 men over in one go then take Jacob back.

You’re done. Load game from the house so you can go straight to the Vlad missions.
Welcome new Galaxy!
I have no idea wether this has been said before or not.

When you go up stairs, you go faster if you jump. And I noted the guide, NICE work. But won't it be hard to get a cop car that early? You don't even have a weapon..

And is there a list of compulsory missions that NEEDS to be completed to finish the game?
torch slug since 2006
I found out that GTA 4 sucks compared to San Andreas IMO.

Oh well whatever, I just cant drive in the damn game. I go like :

wii-wii-wii-bang-oh-wtf_are_you_doing_nico-U-turn-cop-lcpd_dont_move-wasted

So good luck with the speedrun!
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adzicents: 2008-06-08 12:31:46 am
King Laskdjf
Route looks good. One thing thought, mightn't it be faster to do Bleed Out before First Date? I mean, if you do First Date first, you need to hang up on Roman, do the mission then escort Roman back to the Taxi Depot then wait for him to call again saying he got beat up, whereas with Bleed Out first, you only need to rescue Roman, then go get Michel for the date.

EDIT: You need to call Jacob for his mission to show up.
Also, instead of getting out of the car to kill Dardan it's faster to just ram his car to knock him over and hopefully kill him, but you can still just run him over afterwards and have it faster than shooting him.

I just did a test run of the first 8 missions with my added change listed above and I got 34:09 after the end of Concrete Jungle, plus I made at least 2 minutes of mistakes, PLUS I didn't have the shotgun for Bleed Out so I fought them with hand-to-hand. This segment alone could easily be under 30 minutes with some effort.

EDIT II: Did another run of first segment. 30:35 after the auto-save with mistakes.
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X: 2008-06-08 09:22:07 am
destroy them with lazers
Well what I thought was being as you were in Roman apartment anyway (After driving there in the Cousins Bellic) it wouldnt waste any time to keep reloading the game until there is a police car outside. Surely shotgunning the two blokes at the basketball courts is quicker than fighting them. Is it possible to shotgun Darden as he burns off in the car?

As for doing the Bleed Out before First Date you are right and I didnt realise the time to save. So im going to have another go at my strat but with the missions in that order.

Is this the new order now?

SEGMENT 1

The Cousins Bellic

SEGMENT 2

It’s Your Call
Threes a Crowd
Bleed Out
First Date
Easy Fare
Jamaican Heat
Concrete Jungle       Time at this point: Sub 00:32:00
CTTR Master and Spyro 2 Master
Will autosave be allowed? Meaning if you finish a mission and the game autosaves then could you use that as the end of segment?
destroy them with lazers
Yes. If you were doing an SS run and were using the autosave to warp to your safehouse then the load times in between would have to count and it would be known as SS with save warps.

But I think it will be segmented so your going to need autosave on.