Final Fantasy X

2009-01-23 11:08:31 am

Wow, you got it already? I wish I had more freetime nowadays.

Before I even attempt to beat your time.. this process of yours, I'm not too familiar with. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I think I should (or you can do it for me if you have the time) of what you used on the sphere grid during the run. That's probably the only department I fail the grasp. If not, I'll just watch your run.

Yet honestly, I rather not watch all the cutscenes all over again, just the juicy details.

Essentia

2009-01-23 11:55:44 am

Everything's better with Magitek

All right, I went through and listed everything that I do in the sphere grid, and when. Note that I don't use the sphere grid at all with Auron, Wakka, and Rikku.

Besaid Beach (before boarding SS Liki)
Tidus: strength+1

Beginning of Kilika Jungle
Tidus: learn flee

Just before blitzball game
Tidus: strength+1

Just before Chocobo Eater
Tidus: use strength sphere (strength+4), MP+20, learn haste
Yuna: use magic sphere (magic+4)
Lulu: magic+2, magic+2

Beginning of Mushroom Rock Road
Yuna: Magic+3
Kimahri: use HP sphere (HP+300), HP+200 (above Lancet), HP+200 (at right), HP+200 (left of agility node)

Just before Extractor
Tidus: unlock level 1 node, strength+2

Just before Crawler
Yuna: agility+3, magic+3, use magic sphere (magic+4)
Kimahri: unlock level 1 node, unlock level 1 node, HP+200, learn steal, learn use

Just before Wendigo
Tidus: agility+3, learn steal, learn use
Yuna: HP+200, HP+200 (now I don't think this is needed, though), magic+3, agility+3, magic+3

Via Purifico (after Maze Larva but before Isaaru)
Yuna: go back and unlock level 1 node, HP+200, HP+200, agility+2, strength+4

Before climbing Gagazet (after Biran and Yenke)
Lulu: unlock level 3 node, learn bribe

All right, I went through and listed everything that I do in the sphere grid, and when.  Note that I don't use the sphere grid at all with Auron, Wakka, and Rikku.

[b]Besaid Beach (before boarding SS Liki)[/b]
Tidus: strength+1

[b]Beginning of Kilika Jungle[/b]
Tidus: learn flee

[b]Just before blitzball game[/b]
Tidus: strength+1

[b]Just before Chocobo Eater[/b]
Tidus: use strength sphere (strength+4), MP+20, learn haste
Yuna: use magic sphere (magic+4)
Lulu: magic+2, magic+2

[b]Beginning of Mushroom Rock Road[/b]
Yuna: Magic+3
Kimahri: use HP sphere (HP+300), HP+200 (above Lancet), HP+200 (at right), HP+200 (left of agility node)

[b]Just before Extractor[/b]
Tidus: unlock level 1 node, strength+2

[b]Just before Crawler[/b]
Yuna: agility+3, magic+3, use magic sphere (magic+4)
Kimahri: unlock level 1 node, unlock level 1 node, HP+200, learn steal, learn use

[b]Just before Wendigo[/b]
Tidus: agility+3, learn steal, learn use
Yuna: HP+200, HP+200 (now I don't think this is needed, though), magic+3, agility+3, magic+3

[b]Via Purifico (after Maze Larva but before Isaaru)[/b]
Yuna: go back and unlock level 1 node, HP+200, HP+200, agility+2, strength+4

[b]Before climbing Gagazet (after Biran and Yenke)[/b]
Lulu: unlock level 3 node, learn bribe

Renokye

2009-01-23 01:13:50 pm

Touhou anyone? :D

Quote from Essentia:

None of the bosses that are left are really hard, since I have Trio now. The hardest boss(es) will be Sin's fins, since each time I need him to ram the airship at least once so Rikku can get an overdrive, but if he rams the airship more than twice, I die. BFA really isn't too hard; I just need a little luck so that neither Pagoda starts moving again before Lulu can use her overdrive, which happens maybe half the time.

The hardest parts will be getting the specific encounters that I need now (for stealing, bribing, and filling overdrives) in various places; since I have No Encounters, I want the first battle to be the one that I need, and then I'll use No Encounters after that. The hardest will probably be the first part of Mt. Gagazet, since there I'll need two specific battles right in a row.

Edit: Oh, and memorizing the Zanarkand cloister of trials will take some work. Wink

That's amazing!
If I may ask, though, what is this Trio that you keep mentioning? I keep thinking the Magus Sisters, but I highly doubt that's what you're talking about.

[quote="Essentia"]
None of the bosses that are left are really hard, since I have Trio now.  The hardest boss(es) will be Sin's fins, since each time I need him to ram the airship at least once so Rikku can get an overdrive, but if he rams the airship more than twice, I die.  BFA really isn't too hard; I just need a little luck so that neither Pagoda starts moving again before Lulu can use her overdrive, which happens maybe half the time.

The hardest parts will be getting the specific encounters that I need now (for stealing, bribing, and filling overdrives) in various places; since I have No Encounters, I want the first battle to be the one that I need, and then I'll use No Encounters after that.  The hardest will probably be the first part of Mt. Gagazet, since there I'll need two specific battles right in a row.

Edit: Oh, and memorizing the Zanarkand cloister of trials will take some work. ;)
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That's amazing!
If I may ask, though, what is this Trio that you keep mentioning? I keep thinking the Magus Sisters, but I highly doubt that's what you're talking about.

Essentia

2009-01-23 01:15:41 pm

Everything's better with Magitek

Trio is one of Rikku's overdrives. It makes it so every attack of your 3 characters does 9999 damage. I get it by mixing an underdog's secret and a level 3/4 key sphere.

Renokye

2009-01-23 02:03:34 pm

Touhou anyone? :D

Quote from Essentia:

Trio is one of Rikku's overdrives. It makes it so every attack of your 3 characters does 9999 damage. I get it by mixing an underdog's secret and a level 3/4 key sphere.

That's awesome!
I never actually used Rikku's overdrive because I didn't know any of the combinations and I didn't feel like trying to figure out her chart that comes in the guide.

Xagar

2009-01-23 02:48:51 pm

It's actually called Trio of 9999, btw.

Doerkdevil

2009-01-25 04:36:39 am

Yes, a budgie riding a skateboard

Congrats on your great looking run so far!
All i can say is: OMG!!! Shocked

Wow, this ist just amazing! To be honest, i expected a lot from this, just knowing your accomplishments in your previous runs, but this tops absolutely everything!
Especially the fact that you used the sphere grid about 1/10 the amount i expected, simply incredible!
Now i have to look how to get enough free space on my hard drive (and i only have 8 Gig totally...).
This is gonna be really, really epic, i'm looking forward to this!
Good luck on the last few segments!

btw: One question: How much faster than the ultima garden guide are you at the moment?

youpagoda

2009-01-25 07:06:06 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Yeah that's amazing !
I wish you good luck too, I can't wait for the run
as Doerkdevil say, this is gonna be really epic Smiley

Essentia

2009-01-25 09:41:14 am

Everything's better with Magitek

Quote from Doerkdevil:

btw: One question: How much faster than the ultima garden guide are you at the moment?

Currently, I'm at the chamber of the fayth in Zanarkand (just before Yunalesca), and I'm about 3 minutes ahead of Ultima Garden. I've lost some time because I've had to do things to prepare for the final battles (such as filling overdrives and getting shining gems), whereas the Ultima Garden run didn't. I'm hoping to stay ahead, but we'll see what happens.

PreddY

2009-01-25 11:48:18 am

Hope rides alone.

give us some preview videos, please Cheesy

btw, amazing thread.

Essentia

2009-01-26 02:18:57 pm

Everything's better with Magitek

I just realized I made a BIG mistake in my run. When I was collecting gems throughout Gagazet, I somehow forgot that I'd need to save 2 water gems for Seymour Omnis (since he absorbs fire, I have to use water gems on him instead of fire gems), and I used all my water gems on Yunalesca. Luckily, I've figured out a way to fix it. I need to fill Rikku's overdrive for Overdrive Sin, so I'll just get an underwater battle in Gagazet where I can steal some water gems. I'm not actually sure whether I'll lose any time or not from this, because I'd have to go somewhere to fill Rikku's overdrive anyway (I was originally planning to go to Zanarkand), and because if I hadn't used the water gems on Yunalesca, I would have had to steal two more fire gems on the Calm Lands, which would have taken some time.

Anyway, I'm so close to the end that you can most likely expect this run to be done sometime this week. Smiley

anonymous

2009-01-26 02:54:32 pm

So you don't have 2 of any gem saved for that fight?

If you do have 2 gems, you could just mess with the Mortiphasms to change his elemental properties.

Essentia

2009-01-26 03:00:37 pm

Everything's better with Magitek

I have plenty of fire gems, but the thing is, I have to kill Omnis before he gets his first turn; otherwise, he'll wipe me out. I've tried in the past to do what you suggested, but there just isn't time for it.

metallicaband

2009-01-26 04:22:49 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Quote from Essentia:

I just realized I made a BIG mistake in my run. When I was collecting gems throughout Gagazet, I somehow forgot that I'd need to save 2 water gems for Seymour Omnis (since he absorbs fire, I have to use water gems on him instead of fire gems), and I used all my water gems on Yunalesca. Luckily, I've figured out a way to fix it. I need to fill Rikku's overdrive for Overdrive Sin, so I'll just get an underwater battle in Gagazet where I can steal some water gems. I'm not actually sure whether I'll lose any time or not from this, because I'd have to go somewhere to fill Rikku's overdrive anyway (I was originally planning to go to Zanarkand), and because if I hadn't used the water gems on Yunalesca, I would have had to steal two more fire gems on the Calm Lands, which would have taken some time.

Anyway, I'm so close to the end that you can most likely expect this run to be done sometime this week. Smiley

Glad you figured out a way to fix that! hope it won't cost you any extra time. I can't wait to watch this run, keep up the great work !

[quote="Essentia"]
I just realized I made a BIG mistake in my run.  When I was collecting gems throughout Gagazet, I somehow forgot that I'd need to save 2 water gems for Seymour Omnis (since he absorbs fire, I have to use water gems on him instead of fire gems), and I used all my water gems on Yunalesca.  Luckily, I've figured out a way to fix it.  I need to fill Rikku's overdrive for Overdrive Sin, so I'll just get an underwater battle in Gagazet where I can steal some water gems.  I'm not actually sure whether I'll lose any time or not from this, because I'd have to go somewhere to fill Rikku's overdrive anyway (I was originally planning to go to Zanarkand), and because if I hadn't used the water gems on Yunalesca, I would have had to steal two more fire gems on the Calm Lands, which would have taken some time.

Anyway, I'm so close to the end that you can most likely expect this run to be done sometime this week. :)
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Glad you figured out a way to fix that! hope it won't cost you any extra time.  I can't wait to watch this run, keep up the great work !

Renokye

2009-01-26 04:31:35 pm

Touhou anyone? :D

>.< At least you didn't panic when you realized that, right?
If I may suggest something, maybe keep a list of things you need to do/get in the segment that you're preparing to do? It might help.

Essentia

2009-01-26 05:03:58 pm

Everything's better with Magitek

I do have a list of everything that I need to do in each segment, but on this runthrough I thought I'd found a better/faster way to acquire gems, so I deviated from what I had already tested and figured out. That's what I get for using a strategy that hadn't been tested all the way through. Tongue

Gaverion

2009-01-27 02:03:19 am

Wow, your finishing this run at ungodly speeds! Too bad about the little slip up with the gems, shouldn't cost you too much though, a minute at most, probably much less.

hillza

2009-01-27 10:02:32 am

Are you ahead of ultima garden?

Essentia

2009-01-27 10:47:37 am

Everything's better with Magitek

Sadly, no. My time at the final save, 10:01, is 3 minutes behind Ultima Garden. However, I believe Ultima Garden didn't fight BFA, so it wouldn't have had to prepare for the final battles like I did. This includes:

-filling overdrives for Tidus, Rikku, Yuna, Lulu, and Kimahri
-learning Slice & Dice (I'll bet they used Tidus's overdrive a couple times, but definitely not 10 times like I did)
-learning Doom with Kimahri
-bribing a Grenade for shining gems
-possibly learning bribe (which includes giving Lulu enough AP to learn it and stealing a level 3 key sphere)
-stealing a chocobo wing from a Cactuar

So with having to do all that stuff, plus the mistake with the gems, I fell behind. Still, I'm happy with my time; when I started this run, I didn't think I would get anywhere near the Ultima Garden time. I'm planning to record the last segment today, so I'll update with my final time when that is done. Smiley

Essentia

2009-01-27 01:30:46 pm

Everything's better with Magitek

It's done!!!
Final time: 10:25

RaneofSOTN

2009-01-27 01:55:12 pm

I want off the ride....

Congratz Essentia; Glad to know you rocked another Final Fantasy's World?

Whats the next one to be eaten by the Great FF Destroyer?

bmn

2009-01-27 02:08:42 pm

Essentia, you're a freaken' machine. If this run is as good through the whole thing as we've seen so far, then I'm amazed at how quickly you've progressed through it.

Sum2k3

2009-01-27 02:14:05 pm

RaneofSOTN: let her rest a while Cheesy

but it's totally awesome.. the 3th final fantasy speedrun you've done. I hope there will be more in future.
oh, yeah.. CONGRATULATION. Smiley

can't wait to see it in a few weeks.

HalfMillennium

2009-01-27 02:14:34 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Congrats. Out of interest, where did you deploy Spiral Cut?

Alexandre

2009-01-27 02:32:14 pm

And one question: how many times did you have to do the last segment before it worked out? Shocked

Oh, and you still need to give me back FFVI. Using it without permission... Tongue

Congrats! ^_^

~Your brother