Final Fantasy VII

2010-04-02 03:50:29 am

There's a word for that

Skipping Cosmo Canyon means no Death Sentence (amongst other things), which will reduce Tifa's damage later on by a factor of 4. It can be gotten from Boundfats too, but only after Disc 1 is completed.

Spider-Waffle

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2010-04-02 01:05:43 pm

Don't think! feeeeeal

I would think that the compensation for that would take less than 10 minutes.

nokia3311

2010-04-03 05:26:47 am

I don't think that. Without death sentence you will not be able to defeat some bosses.

Spider-Waffle

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Spider-Waffle

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Spider-Waffle: 2010-04-03 03:49:50 pm

2010-04-03 02:51:04 pm

Don't think! feeeeeal

Surely there's another way to defeat the bosses, how many would you have to beat without death sentence anyway?

I was wondering why isn't the pause trick used to reset the random battle encounter memory address so you can avoid random battles?

antd

2010-04-04 03:11:44 am

Quote from Spider-Waffle:

Surely there's another way to defeat the bosses, how many would you have to beat without death sentence anyway?

Well, these are the bosses on disc 1 where death sentence is used:
Red Dragon, Demon's Gate, Jenova-life. Schizo is the first on disc 2.

I'm not sure how soon you can get death sentence on disc 2 though.

Quote from Spider-Waffle:

I was wondering why isn't the pause trick used to reset the random battle encounter memory address so you can avoid random battles?

What is the pause trick?

Spider-Waffle

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2010-04-04 10:15:22 am

Don't think! feeeeeal

Quote from antd:

What is the pause trick?

You just press start to go to the menu then leave the menu and it resets the random battle encounter counter.

Nulien

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Nulien: 2010-04-05 08:30:07 am

2010-04-05 08:12:01 am

Quote from Spider-Waffle:

You just press start to go to the menu then leave the menu and it resets the random battle encounter counter.

That would be triangle, I assume, not start. If that trick worked, I think it would've been used for speedruns a long time ago.

Edit: Nope, no go. I just did some testing on that in the first reactor mission, both with going into the menu just before an encounter (I've done it often enough to know exactly where they happen), and going into the menu every several steps. It made no difference either way on where the encounters happened. If you mean that this pause trick is just for world map encounters, it's already known that it doesn't work there... the random encounters there aren't reset by going into the menu unless you save your game and reload it.

antd

2010-04-05 09:19:55 am

Quote from Nulien:

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^You should edit your post.

The menu trick does work, as seen in the TAS:

two battles removed

difficult to do in a speedrun. 0 frames of error.

Nulien

2010-04-05 09:27:32 am

Quote from antd:

difficult to do in a speedrun. 0 frames of error.

Right. That's why it isn't used. It would be nearly impossible to do even once, let alone the many, many times it would need to be used in a non-TAS speedrun.

antd

2010-04-05 09:38:11 am

In the TAS, on average, it is used once every 4 minutes Tongue

It does not reset the danger value though, so it isn't that good

Nulien

2010-04-05 11:54:09 am

Once every 4 minutes in a 9 hour speedrun is about 135 times.

Many TAS strategies (including this one) just aren't suitable for non-TAS runs because the extremely precise timing that's easy enough to pull off in a TAS becomes virtually impossible when you're using nothing but your hands and a gamepad.

QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

2011-02-06 04:22:38 am

will garland finish this?

I have no name

2011-02-06 04:47:49 am

Obscure games ftw

Quote from QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ:

will garland finish this?

He said on his Youtube channel that he would finish the [FF7] speedrun even if it took 50 years.

antd

2011-02-06 03:57:18 pm

This pause glitch slows the in-game timer and some other things:

Spider-Waffle

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2011-02-08 09:42:30 am

Don't think! feeeeeal

Ingenious, talk about a break-through! Stuff like this what RTSers TASers live for.

GarlandG

2011-02-16 12:21:37 pm

I will knock you all down!

Good day, everyone! Remember me? I'm the guy who was supposed to finish his speed run today, but I was not able to do that for several reasons. But if I remember correctly, I would get 125 bucks if I completed it before july or something, so I'll do my best to finish it before that.

I'll make a more detailed statement on Youtube soon.

Rakuen

2011-02-16 03:10:32 pm

Weegee Time

...nope, sorry, you're really not ringing any bells. Tongue

Alright, seriously, I'm looking forward to more progress on this whenever you're able to post it. Good luck!

DarkKobold

2011-07-05 01:27:11 pm

RPG TASer

Does anyone have the memory address for StepID for encounters? Or the Lookup Table? The table is available for FF8, but I can't find it for ff7.

BrutalAl

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BrutalAl: 2011-07-07 01:14:03 pm

2011-07-07 01:10:50 pm

StepID 09C540
StepID fractions 09C6D8
Offset 09AD2C
DangerValue 07173C

The common LookUp table for field randomness starts at 0E0638 (starts with B1, CA, EE 6C, ...)

EDIT: US NTSC version.

Time

2011-07-10 12:28:07 pm

Well, July is upon us, and unfortunately, no FF7 speed run completed :[

derp

2011-07-11 02:41:31 am

thats because speedrunners are tremendous boasting faggots

dballin

2011-07-11 03:27:42 pm

Balls jerky

well thats kinda harsh

Riskbreaker Y

2011-07-11 06:47:09 pm

berserker status

cuz we gots tremendous big coqs

ZenicReverie

2011-07-11 10:16:55 pm

Waiting hurts my soul...

I always underestimate how long something will take compared to how much time I can actually devote to it. I look forward to a console run of this though, and hopefully it's done soon.

Caracarn

2011-07-12 01:07:27 pm

I hope it is too. I've actually contemplated doing this run myself, but as long as it took me to finish my Final Fantasy II run, I can't imagine how long it would take me to finish a game 3 times longer.