FF7 Run [locked]

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zell99: 2005-03-30 10:47:03 pm

2005-03-30 10:46:04 pm

Do'h! Homer'D!

it was my first time playing most of those games.

Hard to believe you went through all those games (14 of them) if they were mostly first playthrough. I mean, REs usually take over 10 hours on first playthrough... But if you really did that, congrats because I wouldn't try that ever Wink

(this is getting off-topic...)

Mkt2015

2005-03-31 12:14:02 am

MGS for PS1 forever.

The only FF rpgs I know would be longer than 10 hours is FF 8 and FF X because FF X just has too many really long cutscenes. Unless you can skip cutscenes, but I doubt it.

However, a person once beat FF 9 in 9 hours and I'd love to see that. I'd also love to see FF 7 beaten in 8 and a half hours. I'm in the process of downloading the FF 6 speedrun. I agree that I doubt any person would download a 12 hour run. An 8 to 10 hour run...yes.

Skunk

2005-03-31 01:52:50 am

Wasted, Not Worried!

it was definatly alot of fun. By no means did any of the runs have speedrun potential, but I did have alot of fun.

it averages out to just over 3 hours a game.

Keep in mind, i never said i didnt make use of gamefaqs.com(I didnt abuse it. I used it when I was stuck)

Cygnus

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Cygnus: 2005-03-31 02:50:36 am

2005-03-31 02:45:25 am

Ben Goldberg

This I believe, would be an example of one of the quickest way to beat FF10...

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/final_fantasy_x_no_summon_sphere_custom.txt

Probably combine aspects of all the no sphere grid challenges in the fastest way possible. Well, for the most part. Skipping most enemies would probably be a good idea, but experience you pick up from bosses would be helpful to use on the sphere grid.

Entropy4

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Entropy4: 2005-03-31 02:53:57 am

2005-03-31 02:53:46 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Radix: Don't underestimate RPG fans ;), the way i discovered this site was the 6-hour FF6 run. If someone put up even an 8-hour FF7 run, I'd download it immediately.

zell99

2005-03-31 03:02:25 am

Do'h! Homer'D!

Cygnus's direct link to the FAQ wont work because GFAQs doesn't allow direct links to FAQs... Use this instead:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/game/197344.html

Scroll down to the "No Summon/S.Grid/Customization Challenge FAQ" by Gestalh.

Cygnus

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Cygnus: 2005-03-31 03:21:03 am

2005-03-31 03:10:33 am

Ben Goldberg

After some thought, the sphere grid challenge is only useful for the information on the items to collect and boss strategies. Customizing would help a lot. This might be a game I would speedrun, I just don't know how long it would take.

Really, it would be a lot of excaping fights and boss battles. Might be fun...

EDIT: Radix, to do this run, in a quick manner, I would need to start a second game thing. I need to have a finished game file so I start off the second game with Al Bhed Primers 22-26 so I can get some item that helps me beat lots of bosses. Without it, I would have to find an alternative, much slower way to beat all these bosses. So, would this be ok, or should I find another way to beat all these bosses?

EDIT#2: Thanks for that link, Zell.

Mkt2015

2005-03-31 04:58:04 am

MGS for PS1 forever.

FFX's cutscenes alone are 7 hours worth of footage so I doubt Radix would let you do it unless you wanted to just put it up on archive.

Cygnus

2005-03-31 05:37:14 am

Ben Goldberg

Are they really 7 hours worth? I don't think it's near 7 hours. I'll just have to work on it and see.

Imrik

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Imrik: 2005-03-31 10:33:56 am

2005-03-31 10:31:21 am

I have videotaped all the bossfights from a NSG game I did a couple of months ago, but some of them were suboptimal. These bossfights alone took around 3 hrs, and the run in total was in like 20+ hrs. I strongly doubt one could do it under 15 hrs, especially if the cutscenes takes 7 hrs alone.

And without Summons and Costumize it will be hard.

Also, NSG is not the fastest way to complete the game. I didn't use a single sphere on the grid, but if you learn flee the whole game becomes much easier.

Cygnus

2005-04-01 12:17:46 am

Ben Goldberg

I know. I was going to use the sphere grid, summon, and customize. I just think the fastest way to win is not fighting a lot of random enemies, as there are ways to beat all the bosses without even using the sphere grid. Now that I can use the sphere grid, summon, and customize, it's going to be a lot quicker and easier.

SeaWide

2005-04-01 08:59:12 am

A bit off-topic, but I am definitely one of those people who would say "Final Fantasy # in 12 hours.... omg I've gotta see that!" Heck, I would watch it even if it's 20 hours. A video of an RPG speedrun is one of the more interesting gaming videos for me. Perhaps it is because RPG generally have a nice story to go with it, thus watching a run of the whole game is kind of like watching a movie with good story.

And about FF8, if I remember correctly, you could get one of the GF (Diablo?) to learn an ability that turn off random encounter. Wouldn't that decrease the time? Or is that already taken into account?

Mkt2015

2005-04-01 09:47:56 am

MGS for PS1 forever.

The no random encounters from Diablos is gained later in the game. There are quite a few prerequisites to it and by the time you do have it you're halfway through the 3rd disk.

Zer0

2005-04-01 01:56:01 pm

y halo thar buttsecks? D:

Quote:

Don't ever use 'official' to describe me please Wink

Also the limit is flexable but it exists because there are so many shorter games that dont have runs yet. Also I really doubt some new person coming to the site and seeing "Final Fantasy # in 12 hours.... omg I've gotta see that!". Something that long isn't bound to impress many people.

FF VII is like the most popular game ever, there sure are lots of people who would want to see it done fast

Radix

2005-04-02 07:36:05 am

I'm addicted to games

I guess if there's this much demand to see ff 7 in ~8.5 hours, I'd be a fool not to host it.

bueno

2005-04-02 11:39:07 am

If someone beat FF7 in only 7 hours I really want to see that Shocked

! I tried to speedrun FF7 too and I don't think you can go under 10 hours. FF7 difficulty is really well made, you can go through the game without big troubles and whitout xping too much but you can't avoid fights all the time or you'll get crush easily by boss like genova. The only big trick is to learn beta from the migdar zolem, it can save a lot of time in the beginning. FF8 would make a better speedrun cause the strenght of monsters depend of your level.

Yoshi348

2005-04-02 08:29:48 pm

dinosaur from the past

Remember, Radix, this game *IS* one of the world's greatest fanboy hotspots. Wink

ShadowJedi

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ShadowJedi: 2005-04-02 09:45:23 pm

2005-04-02 09:45:08 pm

I love FuSN 1G - SG1!

In FFVII, training for levels that would actually make a difference in boss battles would add hours to the game time. Getting Beta isn't even to be considered, as no character would have the slightest chance of survival against the beast called Midgar Zolom. Entering a fight with it, at all, wastes too much time and will only result in a Game Over. Getting the Chocobo Lure materia is also a waste of time, as you can just run over the marsh.
The only materia/attack worth going out of the way for, that I know of, is buying a Barrier materia at your first visit in Rocket Town. It is quite vital for beating Demon Gate with your sanity intact (at those levels).

I want to see FFVII done quick.

There is a problem, though. A console, be it PSX/PSone or PS2, as well as a computer, would have different loading times. Comparsion would be extremly hard, as the Playstations get slower loading with usage, and the computers are all different no matter what.

Gorash

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Gorash: 2005-04-02 10:13:50 pm

2005-04-02 10:13:39 pm

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I'd think this can be discussed when the secong run arises.
At the moment there is not even the first one so whoever's going for it will have the choice...

Wait... according to the Speed FAQ at GFAQS there is an issue with timing in the pc version if you switch to high res, seems to be faster...

PAL vs. NTSC will (as in almost every game) be an issue...

And IIRC they tampered with the controlling of racing chocobos in the pc version, didn't they?

Best not to think about it... play the game on the system you like and stick with it.

zell99

2005-04-03 12:52:22 am

Do'h! Homer'D!

There are timing issues (PSX vs PSOne vs PS2) in Resident Evil games too because the loading time is included in the final time.. don't know what Radix would do for runs on different systems.

Radix

2005-04-03 01:16:31 am

I'm addicted to games

For ps vs ps2, I think at this point everyone who might be running ps games has a ps2 and is playing them there, so it's not an issue. Of course with ps3 and also gamecube vs revolution and others, it'll be a problem in the future.

For PC games I usually painstakingly find every obvious loading time, even 0.05 second ones and add them up to remove them from the time to not be biased toward faster computers.

saxman52

2005-04-03 07:23:05 pm

I'm glad this topic is getting so much discussion. After reading the replies I think an FF7 run would be well received.

A speed run challenge is being called for.

I'm going to start a run of FF7. If anyone wants to lend advice or start their own run in contest with mine, I would much appreciate it Grin

It would kinda be like a race. Mind you I've never done a speed run before and I've only beaten FF7 once, so this "race" isn't anything to raise your pulse about. The winner gets...well...pride, fame, blah blah blah, and the praises and thanks of many eager gamers.

I'm debating whether or not I should us the GFAQS speed guide for my run since I've never done one before, especially one for an epitastic game as FF7.

There WILL be a run being posted somewhere on the ginormous Web in the future, be it here ( ;)'s to Radix) or elsewhere. Count on it Wink

Skunk

2005-04-03 09:57:09 pm

Wasted, Not Worried!

I'd like to take you up on this, but my best time was 16 hours, and I havnt picked the game up in a while.

saxman52

2005-04-03 10:28:32 pm

Thank you, Skunk, for taking me up on my offer.

That's 2 in the running for an FF7 run. Any other takers?

NTG

2005-04-03 10:47:19 pm

I'm indifferent towards YaBB 1G - SP1!

I would take you up on the offer, but I'm busy with San Andreas at the moment - good luck though, and I'll look forward to seeing the results Grin