European Speedster Assembly 2014 - Food & Allergies Thread

2014-07-01 05:19:59 am

Better than you

LotBlind: Casual Vegan here, so yeah, that's pretty much true in many cases that the meat can be substituted. Sometimes the substitute doesn't work completely, but hey, it's food.

Vegan with a LFHC direction here. I call it casual since I'm still transitioning into it, with still eating eggs, fish and occasional dessert with milk/butter in it. I will keep following the thread, and if nothing crops up, there is always the added benefit of me enjoying most of the Soy substitutes as cold, which would leave me open to cook these on an off-hour and still taking part in carb and protein rich side-dishes people make Smiley

curseddolls

2014-07-01 06:35:03 am

speaking of veggi food i remember last ESA there was a vegitarian lasanga made at the place that was delicious Smiley

Alko

2014-07-01 04:44:31 pm

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LotBlind: My dish is entirely vegetarian (and entirely non-vegan). Also, made a smaller amount for myself tonight; will see how many dishes can be made from 3 eggs/300 g of flour. Couldn't estimate cheese, though, because I forgot to buy it. General rule is: There ain't no thing as too much cheese in Kasspatzn anyways xD
Also, I'm probably going to just ask everyone who signs up for the dish if they want it with or without fried onions. I think, one onion per 1–2 people is good. I don't like Kasspatzn with onions though; so I'm a bad person to ask. (Isn't there an Austrian who maybe makes this, reading along, to give me hints on the onion amount? xD)

LotBlind

2014-07-02 11:46:22 am

curseddolls: the lasagne was drsynj's. I won't comment on whether you should make the soup or the other dish but edit your existing post when you've decided, making sure it had all the things I asked for.

Alko: yeah, we can ask further questions in the sign-up form, so that's okay to ask. (about the onions)

Hara: noted your vegan-ness. Will make sure there's a dish that fits that.

curseddolls

2014-07-02 12:16:03 pm

LotBlind > well I was just saying since u had some concerns towards no vegetarian dishes.
I can roll either way.

Alko

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Alko: 2014-07-02 04:31:16 pm

2014-07-02 04:30:53 pm

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Quote from Alko:

LotBlind: My dish is entirely vegetarian (and entirely non-vegan). Also, made a smaller amount for myself tonight; ~~will see how many dishes can be made from~~ 3 eggs/300 g of flour make ~ 2.25 Alko-sized (i.e. large) portions, so 10 eggs/1 kg flour would be like 8 portions. I now offer to either make 10/1000 (~ 8 portions) or 20/2000 (~ 16 portions). I feel like going for the latter. (Scaling isn't a problem at all, only I'm not sure I really want to take 3 kg of flour with me xD). Couldn't estimate cheese, though, because I forgot to buy it. General rule is: There ain't no thing as too much cheese in Kasspatzn anyways xD

See the bolded part of the quote for the latest information ^^

curseddolls

2014-07-10 12:05:17 am

I updated the recipe.. noticed that I had forgotten the crushed tomatoes ^^

LotBlind

2014-07-10 12:35:08 pm

Alko: sorry I didn't notice your post (or something like that happened). Okay, we'll go for 16 portions max (1 helper) when people are let to sign up for it.

everyone: you've got one week more or less to finish answering the questions in the quick check list in the first post so I can give people the info when I put up the sign-ups and also so I can see you've thought your dishes through (although looks like most people here are experienced cooks). We'll take an opportunity at the start of the marathon to confirm that you're gonna have all your equipment on site as I don't exactly know yet what's available to us. The volunteering list will have the time slots you can choose for your cookery so you'll know when to go to the shops and when to get started with the cooking.

SlaskPrask

2014-07-10 01:12:41 pm

Quote:

SlaskPrask: I don't want you in my kitchen... Smiley well okay I have no valid excuse to discriminate against you. *sigh* You can leave the shrimps and tuna in. We will try to serve everything straight away because we might be a bit short on cold storage space but I know those "sandwich-cakes" are better when left in the fridge for a while so we'll see what we can do. Are you thinking of making the bottom yourself? I think such a cake could be served with tea instead of a main course. Would you agree? Otherwise if you (and your helper[s]) also made a salad and something it could turn into a main meal? It's a bit weird even though I know exactly what it is, we make such cakes in Finland too. We'll think about this more so keep updating.

It's usually served as a main meal at birthday parties and such, usually with coffe/tea or something, and you can decorate the cake with sallad on it aswell, basically anything you can have on a sandwich can go on it.

LotBlind

2014-07-11 09:22:25 am

SlaskPrask: If it's just the cake we'll serve it with coffee and tea in the evening. That's fine.

LotBlind

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LotBlind: 2014-07-18 09:55:18 am

2014-07-18 09:51:17 am

EVERYONE EVERYONE EVERYONE: Here's the volunteering table. It's missing a few things but I wanted you cooks and helpers to choose days for your cookery. You're all getting one helper (we currently don't have too many spares anyway) except the people with the 3-part meal (icedpingu et al. but I'd appreciate if some of them helped with other cookery instead). Take the earliest day you can starting from the first marathon day.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqVbXOZpnj6MdFRQekxDREMtS19jRDNlb0p4SWsta2c&usp=docslist_api#gid=2

You must be able to know how many portions your recipes will produce so we'll know how it scales upwards if we get a lot of sign-ups. I think everyone was ready to make at least 16 portions so I'll use that as a default for the sign-ups and if they get filled we can add more slots into each one up till the limit you yourselves gave.

curseddolls

2014-07-18 02:09:45 pm

I'm not picky/fuzzy about when I do my dinner as long as its done around 18.00 time. Smiley

ESA

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ESA: 2014-07-18 04:13:14 pm

2014-07-18 04:11:24 pm

Here is the page for signing up for dishes, just to show you what information I'll need to get your meals up on the board.

https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/european_speedster_assembly_2014__meal_signups.html

curseddolls: I placed you on the first marathon day (27th) at 16:00-18:00. You'll get a helper so you can make at least 10 portions but if more sign-ups come in how many are you ready to make?

Another reminder: you should go to the shops with the shopping people either earlier the same day if your meal is for dinner or the previous day already if it's lunch. Take this into account when choosing a time slot for your cookery. Shopping will take place at 12:00-14:00 or so every day so show up around the kitchen some ten minutes before.

curseddolls

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curseddolls: 2014-07-18 11:04:21 pm

2014-07-18 11:03:12 pm

I can make as many as there is ovenwares to use that fits the food.
As I said before one serving gives around 6 big portions for "normal" eaters.
And that is counted WITHOUT use of pasta, I'm sure if a person decide to use
pasta to it the size of the gratine portion would be less.
For myself it could have lasted for a lot more since I don't eat that much. xD

But yeah it all comes down to how many overnwares there exist that is deep enough.
Also if there is a grater on nyeport i much rather grate a piece of cheese then buy one of those
already grated cheese bags.

Quote from ESA:

Another reminder: you should go to the shops with the shopping people either earlier the same day if your meal is for dinner or the previous day already if it's lunch. Take this into account when choosing a time slot for your cookery. Shopping will take place at 12:00-14:00 or so every day so show up around the kitchen some ten minutes before.

Since u put me on day one, when am I suppose to go with to the grocery store?

I can make as many as there is ovenwares to use that fits the food.
As I said before one serving gives around 6 big portions for "normal" eaters.
And that is counted WITHOUT use of pasta, I'm sure if a person decide to use
pasta to it the size of the gratine portion would be less.
For myself it could have lasted for a lot more since I don't eat that much. xD

But yeah it all comes down to how many overnwares there exist that is deep enough.
Also if there is a grater on nyeport i much rather grate a piece of cheese then buy one of those
already grated cheese bags.

[quote="ESA"]Another reminder: you should go to the shops with the shopping people either earlier the same day if your meal is for dinner or the previous day already if it's lunch. Take this into account when choosing a time slot for your cookery. Shopping will take place at 12:00-14:00 or so every day so show up around the kitchen some ten minutes before.[/quote]

Since u put me on day one, when am I suppose to go with to the grocery store?

Alko

2014-07-19 07:18:56 am

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Quote from Alko:

LotBlind: My dish is entirely vegetarian (and entirely non-vegan). Also, made a smaller amount for myself tonight; ~~will see how many dishes can be made from~~ 3 eggs/300 g of flour make ~ 2.25 Alko-sized (i.e. large) portions, so 10 eggs/1 kg flour would be like 8 portions. I now offer to either make 10/1000 (~ 8 portions) or 20/2000 (~ 16 portions). I feel like going for the latter. (Scaling isn't a problem at all, only I'm not sure I really want to take 3 kg of flour with me xD). ~~Couldn't estimate cheese, though, because I forgot to buy it. General rule is: There ain't no thing as too much cheese in Kasspatzn anyways xD~~Assume some 1.3 kg of cheese for the 16 portions I'm making. Strong emmental or similar preferred. En bloc, not grated, please ^^

See the bolded part of the quote for the latest information ^^

Yeah, I'm so entirely lazy, I just rebolded part of my post xD

Also, Gyoo asked to be my helper, and if there are no objections, I would love to take Thursday evening's cooking slot ^^

[quote="Alko"][quote="Alko"]LotBlind: My dish is entirely vegetarian (and entirely non-vegan). Also, made a smaller amount for myself tonight; [s]will see how many dishes can be made from[/s] 3 eggs/300 g of flour [i]make ~ 2.25 Alko-sized (i.e. large) portions, so 10 eggs/1 kg flour would be like 8 portions. I now offer to either make 10/1000 (~ 8 portions) or 20/2000 (~ 16 portions). I feel like going for the latter. (Scaling isn't a problem at all, only I'm not sure I really want to take 3 kg of flour with me xD).[/i] [s]Couldn't estimate cheese, though, because I forgot to buy it. General rule is: There ain't no thing as too much cheese in Kasspatzn anyways xD[/s][b]Assume some 1.3 kg of cheese for the 16 portions I'm making. Strong emmental or similar preferred. En bloc, not grated, please ^^[/b][/quote]
See the bolded part of the quote for the latest information ^^[/quote]
Yeah, I'm so entirely lazy, I just rebolded part of my post xD

Also, Gyoo asked to be my helper, and if there are no objections, I would love to take Thursday evening's cooking slot ^^

icedpingu

2014-07-20 06:00:06 am

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) rolmander ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Quote from ESA:

icedpingu: You mean each of your multiple dishes can have a separate sign-up? That works too, sure. People can mix and combine a meal of their preference.

I meant that you can choose between certain side dishes because if I only do parsley potatoes then people have to wait (because you would need a big pot to cook so much potatoes) and the Schnitzel could be cold already.
But I think we will stick to the potato salad and parsley potatoes. If someone wants another side dish, he has to do it on his own. Sorry...

Quote from ESA:

Just keep the shopping lists for each item separate as you have so far.

Recipe for Schnitzel: (for 4 persons)

- 4-8 pieces escallop from pork/veal/chicken (it really depends how many Schnitzel everyone likes to have, some want to have at least 2 others prefer only 1) - 4 pieces are 500g of meat
- 2 eggs
- 50ml milk
- 100-150g cake flour (in German you say "glattes Mehl")
- 150-200g of bread crumbs ("Semmelbrösel")
- 500g vegetable fat (like "Ceres Soft"), oil (like sunflower oil) could be also ok
- pepper and salt

Recipe for the parsley potatoes:

(for 4 persons)
- 1Kg potatoes
- parsley
- butter
- salt

Recipe for the Tiramisu:

- 500g mascarpone
- 100g granulated sugar
- 4 eggs
- 40-60 ladyfingers(in Austria you say "Biskotte") - I'll buy them in Austria because "Manner mag man eben <3"
- coffee
- rum (I have some left, no need to buy this)
- cacao powder (Same for this, no need to buy)

Quote from ESA:

Okay, so the reason I've been talking about 1-2 helpers is just that the kitchen at Nyeport is really quite small (talking about 25 m² though I might not have that quite right).
There's a limited amount of board surfaces too. We may be able to extend your kitchen if we reserve a part of the dining area for it.

It's ok we work with what we get Smiley

Quote from ESA:

I suppose I can also give your helpers the privilege to sign up for the dishes you create first so that way you can buy the rest of the food that you'd like for yourself (although still just 1 more portion/person). Does that sound okay?

Ok.

Quote from ESA:

potato peeler = peeling knife?

Yes.

[quote="ESA"]
[u]icedpingu[/u]: You mean each of your multiple dishes can have a separate sign-up? That works too, sure. People can mix and combine a meal of their preference. 
[/quote]
I meant that you can choose between certain side dishes because if I only do parsley potatoes then people have to wait (because you would need a big pot to cook so much potatoes) and the Schnitzel could be cold already.
But I think we will stick to the potato salad and parsley potatoes. If someone wants another side dish, he has to do it on his own. Sorry...

[quote="ESA"]
Just keep the shopping lists for each item separate as you have so far. 
[/quote]

Recipe for Schnitzel: (for 4 persons)
[spoiler]
- 4-8 pieces escallop from pork/veal/chicken (it really depends how many Schnitzel everyone likes to have, some want to have at least 2 others prefer only 1) - 4 pieces are 500g of meat
- 2 eggs
- 50ml milk
- 100-150g cake flour (in German you say "glattes Mehl")
- 150-200g of bread crumbs ("Semmelbrösel")
- 500g vegetable fat (like "Ceres Soft"), oil (like sunflower oil) could be also ok
- pepper and salt
[/spoiler]

Recipe for the parsley potatoes:
[spoiler] (for 4 persons)
- 1Kg potatoes
- parsley
- butter
- salt
[/spoiler]

Recipe for the Tiramisu:
[spoiler]
- 500g mascarpone
- 100g granulated sugar
- 4 eggs
- 40-60 ladyfingers(in Austria you say "Biskotte") - I'll buy them in Austria because "Manner mag man eben <3"
- coffee
- rum (I have some left, no need to buy this)
- cacao powder (Same for this, no need to buy)
[/spoiler]

[quote="ESA"]
Okay, so the reason I've been talking about 1-2 helpers is just that the kitchen at Nyeport is really quite small (talking about 25 m[sup]2[/sup] though I might not have that quite right). 
There's a limited amount of board surfaces too. We may be able to extend your kitchen if we reserve a part of the dining area for it.
[/quote]
It's ok we work with what we get :)
 
[quote="ESA"]
I suppose I can also give your helpers the privilege to sign up for the dishes you create first so that way you can buy the rest of the food that you'd like for yourself (although still just 1 more portion/person). Does that sound okay?
[/quote]
Ok.

[quote="ESA"]
potato peeler = peeling knife?[/quote]
Yes.

ESA

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ESA: 2014-07-20 02:44:04 pm

2014-07-20 02:10:36 pm

curseddolls: just join the shopping crew on day one at around 11:50 and we'll run through what you'll need based on the number of people signed up for your meal.

Yes, if they choose pasta the gratine portion is smaller. Not a problem. Check the equipment for your cookery on setup day 2 or so and we'll see how many portions we can promise to make. We can potentially buy something...

Alko: gave you that time and marked gyoo as helper. Maybe there's another German who you can ask to take some of that flour with them if you need more than you wanna bring? I marked it as 16 ppl at least in the sign-ups.

icedpingu: gave you a time (7th marathon day evening). So wait, the side dish is BOTH potato salad and parsley potatoes? Could you clarify? For amounts: good that you have a "per X people" recipe ready, it'll make it easy to scale it up, but pretty much assume everyone gets the same plate to keep it a bit simpler for yourself. After all people wouldn't sign up for a meal they don't think they'll like... or something along those lines.

Also, could you ask your helpers to just sign up in the meal sign up thread for your meal so they'll be sure to get a portion? I've added it today.

curseddolls: just join the shopping crew on day one at around 11:50 and we'll run through what you'll need based on the number of people signed up for your meal.

Yes, if they choose pasta the gratine portion is smaller. Not a problem. Check the equipment for your cookery on setup day 2 or so and we'll see how many portions we can promise to make. We can potentially buy something...

Alko: gave you that time and marked gyoo as helper. Maybe there's another German who you can ask to take some of that flour with them if you need more than you wanna bring? I marked it as 16 ppl at least in the sign-ups.

icedpingu: gave you a time (7th marathon day evening). So wait, the side dish is BOTH potato salad and parsley potatoes? Could you clarify? For amounts: good that you have a "per X people" recipe ready, it'll make it easy to scale it up, but pretty much assume everyone gets the same plate to keep it a bit simpler for yourself. After all people wouldn't sign up for a meal they don't think they'll like... or something along those lines.

Also, could you ask your helpers to just sign up in the meal sign up thread for your meal so they'll be sure to get a portion? I've added it today.

Alko

2014-07-21 03:03:14 am

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Quote from ESA:

Alko: gave you that time and marked gyoo as helper. Maybe there's another German who you can ask to take some of that flour with them if you need more than you wanna bring? I marked it as 16 ppl at least in the sign-ups.

Oh that's why it says that ^^ You can mark it as at least 8 then. I don't know about trusting other people to bring further flour … but I have three kilos, so I could make up to 24 portions if need rea~lly be. I'ld still prefer only having to make up to 16 ^^

LotBlind

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LotBlind: 2014-07-21 04:51:44 am

2014-07-21 04:51:25 am

Alko: yeah that's what it means, that you've promised to make 16. it's "at least 16 guaranteed".

Goost

2014-07-22 04:08:34 pm

I'd like to sign up as a helper, if you're still looking for some!

Sape

2014-07-22 04:35:44 pm

Ok, now that I know what's up.

Im signing up as chef on the 31st (thirsday) for the free lunch slot if possible
I will be cooking:

Austrian Goulash

Ingredients:
- Beef ~250g per person
- Onions ~350g per person
- tomato paste
- paprika
- garlic
- spices
- Buns/rolls
- small amount of oil

I know we already have a lot of meat dishes but this is the most austrian dish i could think of that's perfect to make for multiple people. You can just make a giant pot for tons of people or make it for a few.
A thing to notice is, that it should normally cook for 2,5 hours so I hope we can start early enough Smiley

About the dish:
"Wiener Saftgulasch" (google that for pictures) is kinda like a stew. It has a lot of sauce to dunk your buns/rolls and some bigger chunks of meat that are cooked very tender. The sauce is very thick and flavourful, I prefer it spicy with chili but I'm gonna make that optional. The whole dish doesn't have huge amounts of fat but it's a hearty kind of meal that keeps you full for a longer amount of time.

The amounts in my recipe are on the larger side but if there is too much you can always warm it up the next day and a saying says it gets ever better Tongue

Ok, now that I know what's up.

Im signing up as chef on the 31st (thirsday) for the free lunch slot if possible
I will be cooking:

[b]Austrian Goulash[/b]

Ingredients:
 - Beef ~250g per person
 - Onions ~350g per person
 - tomato paste
 - paprika
 - garlic
 - spices
 - Buns/rolls
 - small amount of oil

I know we already have a lot of meat dishes but this is the most austrian dish i could think of that's perfect to make for multiple people. You can just make a giant pot for tons of people or make it for a few. 
A thing to notice is, that it should normally cook for 2,5 hours so I hope we can start early enough :)

About the dish:
"Wiener Saftgulasch" (google that for pictures) is kinda like a stew. It has a lot of sauce to dunk your buns/rolls and some bigger chunks of meat that are cooked very tender. The sauce is very thick and flavourful, I prefer it spicy with chili but I'm gonna make that optional. The whole dish doesn't have huge amounts of fat but it's a hearty kind of meal that keeps you full for a longer amount of time.

The amounts in my recipe are on the larger side but if there is too much you can always warm it up the next day and a saying says it gets ever better :P

Alko

2014-07-22 05:24:59 pm

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Just a tiny question: When will I know if all the 'special' kitchen items I asked for will be around? I'll have to pack soonish o.o'

icedpingu

2014-07-22 06:42:25 pm

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) rolmander ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Quote from Sape:

The amounts in my recipe are on the larger side but if there is too much you can always warm it up the next day and a saying says it gets ever better Tongue

That is what I do every time. It tastes just better if you warm it up next day. Fresh Gulasch doesn't taste so good... I think I'll sign up for this XD

LotBlind

2014-07-23 08:48:51 am

HELPERS: Sorry you may have gotten the wrong impression about how to volunteer for this (and tbh it wasn't necessarily thought through to begin with) but could you now please take a look in the volunteering table https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqVbXOZpnj6MdFRQekxDREMtS19jRDNlb0p4SWsta2c#gid=0 and select one of the ones that says "helper needed". There are several already. Keep looking for more as well when more cooks have selected their cookery times.

Sape: your portion size seems kinda big - 600g from beef and onions already? I think something like 3-4 dl of soup per portion (~400g maybe w/ the water) must be closer to an average meal if we have rolls on the side. So how about 100g-150g of beef, 150g-200g onions? I suppose the other ingredients are present in smaller quantities (paprika)? Yeah, we could do what you suggested and put the rest in the fridge but we don't have too much fridge space so I can't tell if that's going to be possible.

Is it just regular buns from the shop? Also, could you read the checklist now. I need to know how many people can sign up for this meal mainly (i.e. how many portions you're ready to make at most with one person helping you out). Can you start working at 11:30 and can we then set the mealtime at 14:30 or 15:00?

Leave another post as a reply please.

Alko: Sorry I asked someone to look around but apparently they haven't had the time. The wooden board we can just buy I'd imagine. The ham knife: would a fileeing knife do the trick? I unfortunately again do not know. To be on the safe side, could you possibly pack one with you along with the slotted spoon? The rest should be okay.

HELPERS: Sorry you may have gotten the wrong impression about how to volunteer for this (and tbh it wasn't necessarily thought through to begin with) but could you now please take a look in the volunteering table [url]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqVbXOZpnj6MdFRQekxDREMtS19jRDNlb0p4SWsta2c#gid=0[/url] and select one of the ones that says "helper needed". There are several already. Keep looking for more as well when more cooks have selected their cookery times.

Sape: your portion size seems kinda big - 600g from beef and onions already? I think something like 3-4 dl of soup per portion (~400g maybe w/ the water) must be closer to an average meal if we have rolls on the side. So how about 100g-150g of beef, 150g-200g onions? I suppose the other ingredients are present in smaller quantities (paprika)? Yeah, we could do what you suggested and put the rest in the fridge but we don't have too much fridge space so I can't tell if that's going to be possible.

Is it just regular buns from the shop? Also, could you read the checklist now. I need to know how many people can sign up for this meal mainly (i.e. how many portions you're ready to make at most with one person helping you out). Can you start working at 11:30 and can we then set the mealtime at 14:30 or 15:00?

Leave another post as a reply please.

Alko: Sorry I asked someone to look around but apparently they haven't had the time. The wooden board we can just buy I'd imagine. The ham knife: would a fileeing knife do the trick? I unfortunately again do not know. To be on the safe side, could you possibly pack one with you along with the slotted spoon? The rest should be okay.

bangerra

2014-07-23 10:43:03 am

You can prepare my portion of goulash with as much meat as technically possible Sape Grin