Elgato Game Capture HD - Play on a CRT?

2013-12-29 05:42:52 pm

Hi, this is my first post here, and it may seem like a foolish one. I recently bought an Elgato Game Capture HD device, and am wondering if it is possible to connect this device to an non-HD television. I would ideally like to be able to play 5th/6th generation consoles on my old Trinitron CRT, while recording through the HD capture device to a PC. Problem is, i believe this device can only be plugged into an HDTV. Is it possible to plug the HDMI out cord from the Elgato into a HDMI to composite Upscaler/Converter, so that i can play my old consoles on my CRT still? I do own an HD tv, (i wasnt stupid enough to buy an HD capture card when i dont have an HD tv) It's just that it dosent support 240p signal, and i think older games look better on CRT anyway. Any help with this problem whatsoever would be much appreciated. Hope i didnt sound like too much of a fool... Undecided

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TheThrillness

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TheThrillness: 2013-12-29 06:03:31 pm

2013-12-29 06:03:07 pm

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The Elgato does support 240p signal (well sort of read below) but most HDTVs won't display HDMI over 240p. The CRT option is best.

Take a look here:

Basically you set it up like you would a Dazzle and never even touch the Elgato pass through. That way you can simultaneously feed the Elgato and your CRT with no lag.

I am actually curious though, does anyone know if Elgato actually fixed retro console recording for SDA submission yet? I remember back in June I had one of these but it either only produced a deinterlaced 29.97 video (completely useless) or if you unticked preserve source format the interlaced video couldn't be deinterlaced anywhere near what was required for SDA level.

Errorhead, any chance you have the latest firmware/software and can post a quick 10 second raw sample for me to look at? Send both the preserve source format option (maybe they finally realized their mistake and it's at 59.94) and the interlaced option.

Thanks

Errorhead

2013-12-29 06:18:49 pm

That video is exactly what i was looking for. Thank you for your quick response.
I have not yet opened the device, as i was unsure if it would actually fit my needs.
I will probably be able to post a test vid in a few days time.
Busy with uni and such. Thanks for the help Thrillness! thumbsup

TheThrillness

2013-12-29 07:20:04 pm

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No problem. If your main point of the Elgato is for retro capturing you might want to still not open it and wait for confirmation on whether it is up to SDA standards.

If you just need old console capture then you might be best just going for a Dazzle/EzCAP or even the Aver c027/H727 if you have a desktop machine.

blizzz

2013-12-30 07:52:42 am

TheTrillness asked me for this in PM, but I'll also post it in here. I made a short recording with the Elgato HD that turns out ok in Yua, but the framerate is completely wrong.
Maybe nate wants to have a look at it.

Original recording: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3459629/videos/Recording_2013-12-30_15-14-22_0003.ts
Yua encoding: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3459629/videos/Recording_2013-12-30_15-14-22_0003_yua_HQ.mp4
Yua encoding (changed the framerate to 59.94): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3459629/videos/yua_HQ.mp4

nate

2013-12-30 10:31:15 am

looks fine with the framerate corrected. what method did you use to do it?

blizzz

2013-12-30 10:34:20 am

I just opened it in vdub, changed the framerate and reencoded it... I'm not using the Elgato for SD consoles, so I didn't look into a proper way to fix it.

nate

2013-12-30 10:37:09 am

you opened the .ts or the .mp4 in vdub? did you use avisynth?

blizzz

2013-12-30 10:41:12 am

I opened the mp4 that Yua produced as a FFmpegSource2 in vdub, changed the framerate, saved it as an uncompressed avi and simply reencoded it in Yua.

nate

2013-12-30 10:48:50 am

ok, thanks. i think this is the first time i've ever wanted a "treat source as this framerate" tweak in yua.