e3m4, secret with ogres...

2004-09-14 01:24:57 am

Thunderbolt Forever :)

I never fired the green lamp to reach this secret. It was surprising for me that all my quake friends fired it. Why not just to go upstairs? Yes, the steps are very narrow, but they are... does anybosy use them in 100% runs?

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Stubgaard

2004-09-14 09:08:51 am

Hey Ho Let's Go

Can I ask what the hell you are on about? There's no green lamp on e3m4... and there's no secret with Ogres...

Morfans

2004-09-14 10:07:21 am

Hell is where the heart is.

Yes there is. Just after you get the RL you go across and down a slope, press a button in the far corner which locks the room and spawns some ogres in on the platform above, which is a secret area.

Normally you'd RJ up to the secret, but the "proper" way is to go out of the room, turn around, shoot the light and go up the secret stairs.

At least, I presume that's what we're talking about here...

Stubgaard

2004-09-14 10:12:33 am

Hey Ho Let's Go

Ooooohhh, but that button has never been used in a demo has it? Smiley

mwh

2004-09-14 12:26:33 pm

One of those "oh yeah, that's how your supposed to get to the secret" moments. I'm sure there must be other secret areas that are basically never reached the intended way, but I can't think of any right now...

Stubgaard

2004-09-14 01:05:05 pm

Hey Ho Let's Go

e1m1 mega health secret Grin

Droog_Andrey

2004-09-14 01:53:32 pm

Thunderbolt Forever :)

Stubgaard
that button has never been used in a demo has it?
This button also opens the door on the way from secret trigger to RL room. It was used in e3m4_103 from QdQ100Lite2 for example.

But indeed, the shortcut I described starting this topic is useless because of this door. Sad

It it was opened, one would have reach the secret without RJ and with no loss of time...

Stubgaard

2004-09-14 02:09:51 pm

Hey Ho Let's Go

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Stubgaard
that button has never been used in a demo has it?
This button also opens the door on the way from secret trigger to RL room. It was used in e3m4_103 from QdQ100Lite2 for example.

But indeed, the shortcut I described starting this topic is useless because of this door. Sad

It it was opened, one would have reach the secret without RJ and with no loss of time...

Err, no, the door doesn't open because of the button, the door is being opened because of the player going through a trigger.

Or maybe I didn't read your sentence the way it was meant to be read....

Droog_Andrey

2004-09-14 03:02:19 pm

Thunderbolt Forever :)

the door is being opened because of the player going through a trigger
Gm... what trigger? Smiley

Once again. Let cells are to the north from RL, yellow armor is to north-east. So my door is to the west. Smiley

And AFAIK the only way to open it is to push the button in the room under secret.

Morfans

2004-09-14 03:31:03 pm

Hell is where the heart is.

Slight misunderstanding here

i) the door to the RL room does, as Stbugaard says, open when you walk through a trigger on the bridge.

ii) The door before that is indeed, as Andrey says, opened by the button in the room.

iii) "The button that has never been used" that Stubgaard is referring to is the shootable button that extends the stairs and not the button in the room. He does not mean the button in the room that you press to open the door and bring the ogre(s) in.

Keep those three things in mind and the above almost becomes understandable.

mwh

2004-09-14 05:42:24 pm

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e1m1 mega health secret Grin

Duh.

Connor

2004-09-16 01:13:45 am

e4m1 quad too...
oh, and e1m6 quad

probably lots more Smiley

Morfans

2004-09-16 08:28:31 am

Hell is where the heart is.

e4m1 quad was collected the "proper" way by Yonaton in Qd100Q. :-P

mwh

2004-09-16 12:18:11 pm

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e4m1 quad too...
oh, and e1m6 quad

probably lots more Smiley

Indeed! I hear there's this "q10d0lit2e" thing I can watch to find out...