Digimon World for PSX

2012-11-28 06:42:58 am

I was just about to edit my post when you said that.

But yeah, what Zast posted is interesting. Might be okay to look into.

Foxtreme

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Foxtreme: 2012-11-28 07:36:49 am

Foxtreme: 2012-11-28 07:36:43 am

2012-11-28 07:35:46 am

If it's RNG dependent forget about poop bonus in a non tool assisted run. Unless the RNG counter resets when entering the screen, and you manage to replicate the exact movements Shocked

zastbat

2012-11-28 08:23:58 am

Lord Of The Beards

Quote from Foxtreme:

If it's RNG dependent forget about poop bonus in a non tool assisted run. Unless the RNG counter resets when entering the screen, and you manage to replicate the exact movements Shocked

Yea we really need to know more about the RNG to know how this would work in a run and if it would be viable. Not to mention that he uses chips to change the RNG too by a large amount and we kinda need all the chips we can get.

Surreal

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Surreal: 2012-12-06 09:14:43 am

2012-12-06 09:12:58 am

dabes

idk if you guys checked Nico or not, but there's a 1:59:05 RTA on there...

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15017374

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15017670 pt2

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15017763 pt3

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15017833 pt4

Foxtreme

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Foxtreme: 2012-12-06 01:15:18 pm

2012-12-06 01:13:36 pm

awesome :O

I'm currently downloading the videos. I'll post some notes after watching the entire run.

From what I've watched so far:
- He used Centarumon with Spit Fire
- Trained attack stat to ~800
- Very optimized battles
- The route is also different
- He gets Vademon. HOW??????

Surreal

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Surreal: 2012-12-06 01:44:04 pm

Surreal: 2012-12-06 01:44:01 pm

2012-12-06 01:39:27 pm

dabes

By SDA timing the run would be around 1:56:08, starting from when he gains actual control of the character. idk when you'd technically stop timing for this, but I stopped after going through the "spoils" for beating final boss and starting the final cutscene, as there's no more character control by that point.

Anyways, yeah he mucho trains attack on Agumon, gets Centaurmon and sticks with him the whole game, then just uses spit fire and magma bomb as his strong hitter. I think the only battle he gets into that isn't required is the start of Mt. Infinity, assuming you can't dodge the guy right before Shellmon.

Everything seems to fall in place in terms of times of day for him to do stuff, and he also seemed to have a strat for getting Seadramon. Another interesting trick I saw him do was after talking to Bakemon he was able to walk down closer to the way back out before Bakemon actually talked to him.

Idk if JP version has any differences.

He also seemed more than good money/items wise. He still had a good amount leftover after finishing (probably to play it safe).

By SDA timing the run would be around 1:56:08, starting from when he gains actual control of the character. idk when you'd technically stop timing for this, but I stopped after going through the "spoils" for beating final boss and starting the final cutscene, as there's no more character control by that point.

Anyways, yeah he mucho trains attack on Agumon, gets Centaurmon and sticks with him the whole game, then just uses spit fire and magma bomb as his strong hitter. I think the only battle he gets into that isn't required is the start of Mt. Infinity, assuming you can't dodge the guy right before Shellmon.

Everything seems to fall in place in terms of times of day for him to do stuff, and he also seemed to have a strat for getting Seadramon. Another interesting trick I saw him do was after talking to Bakemon he was able to walk down closer to the way back out before Bakemon actually talked to him.

Idk if JP version has any differences.

He also seemed more than good money/items wise. He still had a good amount leftover after finishing (probably to play it safe).

Foxtreme

2012-12-06 04:26:12 pm

As I said, awesome run.

He relies on Spit Fire + Finishers for battles, so MP requierements are very low. He sold chips for money, but he actually did the money trick later in the run.

I believe everything he did works in non JP versions. For Vademon I think this is how he gets him (I always believed you needed Skullgreymon first):
- Visit his screen after recruiting Unimon.
- Read Shellmon paper (not sure if he did read for Seadramon instead since I can't undestand japanese :P).
- Visit his screen a 2nd when going to recruit Leomon.
- Visit his screen a 3rd time, and he is there.

Eddalius

2012-12-06 09:00:57 pm

Okay well... Seeing that, and that is a year and a half old...

We are still headless chickens.

zastbat

2012-12-06 09:08:25 pm

Lord Of The Beards

Quote from Eddalius:

Okay well... Seeing that, and that is a year and a half old...

We are still headless chickens.

yep

Surreal

2012-12-06 11:42:48 pm

dabes

Rule 1 of speedrunning: Always see if others have done runs on youtube, twitch, or nico.

Eddalius

2012-12-07 12:52:00 am

That time can be beaten anyway.

The TAS is around 1:30-1:50. What can we improve upon?

DRsynj

2012-12-07 10:00:29 am

Reverse Death Valley Bomb

I've watched way too many Digimon World runs claiming to be the WR x.x I actually managed to find the Nico run 20 minutes before Surreal posted it, so that was weird, I'll just assume that's the WR for now and not one that's little less than 6hrs. As for the TAS, is this it? http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzYxMzMxNTEy.html

MetaSigma

2012-12-07 04:41:30 pm

Evermore Extrodinare ᕦ(° Д°)ᕤ

Awesome find Surreal Smiley

I'll take a look at it and see what I can see as far as improvements.

jinzo92

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jinzo92: 2012-12-09 03:01:08 am

2012-12-09 02:52:47 am

Quote from Surreal:

Rule 1 of speedrunning: Always see if others have done runs on youtube, twitch, or nico.

i searched everywere on youtube twich googled it 1000 times ans sorry i dont can read jap. so i dont now a single jap. internet site.

Quote from DRsynj:

I've watched way too many Digimon World runs claiming to be the WR x.x I actually managed to find the Nico run 20 minutes before Surreal posted it, so that was weird, I'll just assume that's the WR for now and not one that's little less than 6hrs. As for the TAS, is this it? http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzYxMzMxNTEy.html

my best time is not 6h its 2:30 with some fails what would bring me to perhaps 2h or something

i dont play the game much cous i have no time 4 it but i think catching seadramon is faster but i am ao bad at it but i was thinking the same a Fox u need to get skullgreymon to get vademon i tryd it 2 times i think as i traind the run but always only get it to the second time to ''talk'' to the circles the third time never appear 4 me so i was searching the inet and so many ppl saying that u have to recruit skullgreymon so i believed it if i changed my route to skip monochro fregie and tyranno (my a little new fixed route) and get vademon perhaps its fast enough to beat this time have to do some practice
to see if i can beat it.
who find write errors can keep them XD

[quote="Surreal"]Rule 1 of speedrunning: Always see if others have done runs on youtube, twitch, or nico.[/quote]
i searched everywere on youtube twich googled it 1000 times ans sorry i dont can read jap. so i dont now a single jap. internet site.

[quote="DRsynj"]I've watched way too many Digimon World runs claiming to be the WR x.x I actually managed to find the Nico run 20 minutes before Surreal posted it, so that was weird, I'll just assume that's the WR for now and not one that's little less than 6hrs. As for the TAS, is this it? http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzYxMzMxNTEy.html[/quote]

my best time is not 6h its 2:30 with some fails what would bring me to perhaps 2h or something

i dont play the game much cous i have no time 4 it but i think catching seadramon is faster but i am ao bad at it but i was thinking the same a Fox u need to get skullgreymon to get vademon i tryd it 2 times i think as i traind the run but always only get it to the second time to ''talk'' to the circles the third time never appear 4 me so i was searching the inet and so many ppl saying that u have to recruit skullgreymon so i believed it if i changed my route to skip monochro fregie and tyranno (my a little new fixed route) and get vademon perhaps its fast enough to beat this time have to do some practice
to see if i can beat it.
who find write errors can keep them XD

Eddalius

2012-12-09 05:46:10 am

That block of text was impossible to read. And I'm still pretty sure you only need shellmon for vademon. ><

jinzo92

2012-12-09 05:47:14 am

Quote from Eddalius:

That block of text was impossible to read. And I'm still pretty sure you only need shellmon for vademon. ><

nope i tested it how i write it in my textblock ^^ i tryd it alredy

Eddalius

2012-12-09 05:52:09 am

Explain how he does then? O.o

jinzo92

2012-12-09 05:52:24 am

pp points.

Surreal

2012-12-09 08:28:31 am

dabes

The run I linked didn't get SkullGreymon, and I'm highly sure that the only thing you need to acquire Vademon is a high enough population in the city, like for Greymon or Airdramon, or Etemon to appear.

Eddalius

2012-12-12 09:30:29 pm

A TAS just got posted on TASVideos.

http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7291&start=20

Videos are in multiple parts, but as a whole are pretty awesome. Interesting usage of waiting and stopping/starting movement for rng stuff.

Foxtreme

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Foxtreme: 2012-12-13 05:59:04 am

2012-12-13 05:53:52 am

Watched up to Centarumon, so far the main difference is MASSIVE luck manipulation, obviously since it's a TAS. It's kinda ironic he needs to waste a lot of time to manipulate luck to actually save time.

Never thought about using Bakemon, anyway it's RNG related, so it's probably not worth getting him in a normal run.

Btw, there also is a 100 PP run.

zastbat

2012-12-13 06:13:50 am

Lord Of The Beards

Quote from Foxtreme:

It's kinda ironic he needs to waste a lot of time to manipulate luck to actually save time.

yea it is really silly. we could theoretically manipulate the RNG but no one except the person who made the TAS knows the values and how they are affected so until then i think we don't need to worry about it.

Kellerpg

2012-12-13 09:32:20 am

That Centaurumon run on nico, was a TAS ?

re u sure about that? he screw up some times, but that route with vademon+seadramon was amazing ^^

Eddalius

2012-12-13 10:53:13 am

Different run.

Surreal

2012-12-13 11:03:29 am

dabes

He wouldn't have gotten in unintentional battles or taken multiple tries for Seadramon if it was really a TAS lol