Deus Ex, Realistic any% (again)

2009-06-28 05:21:42 pm

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I did a segment. Something something 59 more frames saved blah blah.

Check here for a pimped out page about my DX progress, and of course there's still the table in the first post if you do not want to check my progress page out.

NMS

2009-06-28 10:11:36 pm

That trick with the plant is brilliant!

I wonder what the booze is for. Some faster way of damaging your torso that does exactly 100 damage? Have fun running around drunk. Or I guess you could throw it as a distraction.

krael

2009-06-29 12:52:28 am

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Can you perhaps elaborate as to what the plant does?

Does it allow you to open the door before you're actually supposed to do so?

I can't remember the part of the game.

ExplodingCabbage

2009-06-29 03:23:09 am

krael: comparing the video with the old run, the plant delays Anna Navarre so that she doesn't block dex as he leaves Manderley's office.

Which is awesome.

krael

2009-06-29 03:38:34 am

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Quote from ExplodingCabbage:

krael: comparing the video with the old run, the plant delays Anna Navarre so that she doesn't block dex as he leaves Manderley's office.

Which is awesome.

ahh yeah, lol - that's very nice. Didn't notice that one before now. It is likely the same thing may become useful later on during the other segments.

dex

2009-06-29 04:16:12 am

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Quote from ExplodingCabbage:

krael: comparing the video with the old run, the plant delays Anna Navarre so that she doesn't block dex as he leaves Manderley's office.

Which is awesome.

Yes and yes. Smiley

Next segment will actually be fun to run. Which is a refreshing development.

Rake

2009-06-29 07:33:33 am

Quote from dex:

Next segment will actually be fun to run. Which is a refreshing development.

We'll see what your saying after a few hundred attempts Wink

Love the plant trick btw

dex

2009-06-29 07:55:57 am

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:).

Started running segment 7, like I said, super fun. Looking forward to trying it more.

Oh, and I improved the old run time by 2.566 so far, which brings the total improvement over 30 seconds. Site etc.

AgentSmithereens

2009-06-29 09:50:50 am

Nice one Dex; very innovative with the plant Wink

If I was to be very very pedantic though, is it possible to save a few more frames by running between the MIB and Unatco trooper as you head towards Jock, instead of running round the MIB? Or is there not enough room?

Hellfish

2009-06-29 10:25:40 am

I <3 my Xbrick

There's a plant on the other side of the MIB blocking the way, by the looks of it.

ExplodingCabbage

2009-06-29 10:47:22 am

Quote from AgentSmithereens:

If I was to be very very pedantic though, is it possible to save a few more frames by running between the MIB and Unatco trooper as you head towards Jock

Or, indeed, by killing them. I forget if they're invulnerable.

dex

2009-06-29 11:14:29 am

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Quote from AgentSmithereens:

Nice one Dex; very innovative with the plant Wink

If I was to be very very pedantic though, is it possible to save a few more frames by running between the MIB and Unatco trooper as you head towards Jock, instead of running round the MIB? Or is there not enough room?

Nope, too little room.

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Or, indeed, by killing them. I forget if they're invulnerable.

Everyone is invulnerable in that level. I could shoot the MIB and run through the opening, but the normal soldiers open fire so fast I'll get unwanted leg damage. And I don't have ANYTHING to heal it with for like 5 more segments.

So, no.

moozooh

2009-06-29 12:53:05 pm

Hail Discordia!

Looks very clean, and nice find with the plant. Good job!

honorableJay

2009-06-29 11:52:30 pm

The Dork Knight himself.

If a plant can stop Anna Navarre in her place, I wonder if it can stop a bullet Smiley

Seriously though, is a plant large enough to block shots with or would you need something bigger?

krael

2009-06-30 03:03:56 am

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nteresting question seeing as you can break a plant by shooting it, but I got no clue what happens if you shoot above it.

ExplodingCabbage

2009-06-30 04:32:58 am

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If a plant can stop Anna Navarre in her place, I wonder if it can stop a bullet Smiley Seriously though, is a plant large enough to block shots with or would you need something bigger?

I believe any object can block shots (although not while you're holding them - they become non-solid, if I remember rightly). If you mean is a plant large enough to act as an effective shield, I think the answer is probably 'only if you're crouching', though I fail to see the significance of the question.

krael

2009-06-30 07:02:17 am

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Quote from ExplodingCabbage:

Quote:

If a plant can stop Anna Navarre in her place, I wonder if it can stop a bullet Smiley Seriously though, is a plant large enough to block shots with or would you need something bigger?

I believe any object can block shots (although not while you're holding them - they become non-solid, if I remember rightly). If you mean is a plant large enough to act as an effective shield, I think the answer is probably 'only if you're crouching', though I fail to see the significance of the question.

He may be able to spare a grenade killing Anne Navarre by blocking her with a flower etc in the airplane-scene.

ExplodingCabbage

2009-06-30 07:36:03 am

He has to kill her there or she'll delay him after he gets captured. And unless you attack her she isn't a threat anyway.

honorableJay

2009-06-30 10:57:05 pm

The Dork Knight himself.

Quote from ExplodingCabbage:

I believe any object can block shots (although not while you're holding them - they become non-solid, if I remember rightly). If you mean is a plant large enough to act as an effective shield, I think the answer is probably 'only if you're crouching', though I fail to see the significance of the question.

That can't be true since one of the advantages of getting the super strength was to lift huge objects and use em as shields. I actually remember using large metal crates as body shields. What I'm wondering is if any object you hold in your hands can be used to block shots.

dex

2009-07-01 07:06:08 am

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The items (at the very least small ones) do turn non-solid.

And it's a moot point anyway, since I wouldn't be using this, for two reasons.

First: any item you hold makes you run a little bit slower

And two, to block shots you'd need to turn towards the enemy, which would mean you'd have to run backwards for a while.

...which makes you run a little bit slower. So no.

(Welcome to my world)

honorableJay

2009-07-02 12:14:10 am

The Dork Knight himself.

heh, oh I know what it's like, I had to go through the same stuff while tearing through X-Men.....and the same when I was helping with Jedi Outcast (that game still gives me nightmares).

Prentice

2009-07-11 07:53:57 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Hey Dex I don't know if you remember me but I helped with the original run in the way back a few years and stopped by to how this was going. So far it's incredible man! You've got talent haha.

I was wondering, by the way, do you plan on doing a single segment run?

dex

2009-07-12 06:21:01 am

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Hey Sidra, yeah I remember :P. Thanks!

I might do a single-segment on either Realistic or Hard (probably the earlier since I like challenge), but that's a lot of job figuring out alternative routes and it's not something I plan on doing just now. Smiley

Prentice

2009-07-13 12:57:59 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Cool, because I was messing around with DX again and thinking some alternate routes that are less dangerous and wanted to do single segment if you weren't going to do one. Is that cool with you?

Rake

2009-07-15 05:59:30 am

hey sidra I was also considering a SS run although I have been quite busy the last few months. I started looking at some planning for it about a month+ ago to test how possible it is. I had a possible route to about HK but wasn't too sure on the speed of it. The main thing I was testing was going for early heavy weapons advance skills and using the GEP gun to knock out big obstacles. The main place I found this useful was getting into the train station in battery park as you can blow the 3ppl at the stairs up then shoot out the tnt at the bottom to run through quickly. I also found you have to pick off a few more ppl through out the run. Once you go to the warehouse after hell's kitchen I had to kill most of the enemies on the outside of the warehouse before going to the basement as well as setting up a gas grenade to prevent me getting rushed by a lot off enemies.

I am looking at getting back into either making this run or helping with it so some one who is also looking at running and planning routes would be very helpful as I know their are probably many many routes and strategies I am overlooking through out my testing. I also really need to relearn to grenade jump as I am just awful at it atm Sad

hey sidra I was also considering a SS run although I have been quite busy the last few months.  I started looking at some planning for it about a month+ ago to test how possible it is.  I had a possible route to about HK but wasn't too sure on the speed of it.  The main thing I was testing was going for early heavy weapons advance skills and using the GEP gun to knock out big obstacles.  The main place I found this useful was getting into the train station in battery park as you can blow the 3ppl at the stairs up then shoot out the tnt at the bottom to run through quickly.  I also found you have to pick off a few more ppl through out the run.  Once you go to the warehouse after hell's kitchen I had to kill most of the enemies on the outside of the warehouse before going to the basement as well as setting up a gas grenade to prevent me getting rushed by a lot off enemies.

I am looking at getting back into either making this run or helping with it so some one who is also looking at running and planning routes would be very helpful as I know their are probably many many routes and strategies I am overlooking through out my testing.  I also really need to relearn to grenade jump as I am just awful at it atm :(