Deus Ex, Realistic any% (again)

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dex: 2009-06-28 05:07:01 pm

2007-08-05 04:55:41 pm

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Yeah, that's right. I've been thinking about rerunning for a long time already, and I think now is a good time to start. Now it'll be a much longer term project for a few reasons: I want the times to be even more optimized than they were, so I'm going to try even more for each segment, and two, I'm not gonna devote all of my time to this either.

I'll use two tricks I haven't used in my run, throw two less important grenade jumps out, and I've made a new plan for quite a bit of areas in-game. As usual, my aim is a very improbable time - sub 40 minutes. Hopefully it will become Realistic in the process. Smiley

Oh, and don't expect too many vids of this new run, most of them will be very similar to the earlier ones anyway.

Well, wish me luck. I'll need a lot of it.

Improvement table:

Segment	Current run	New time	Improvement
1	0:48.033	0:47.217	0:00.816
2	1:55.667	1:50.483	0:05.183
3	0:31.933	0:30.250	0:01.683
4	0:40.500	0:33.467	0:07.033
5	1:18.767	1:14.033	0:04.733
6	2:01.333	1:52.200	0:09.133
Total	7:16.233	6:47.650	0:28.583

Thread title:

Yeah, that's right. I've been thinking about rerunning for a long time already, and I think now is a good time to start. Now it'll be a much longer term project for a few reasons: I want the times to be even more optimized than they were, so I'm going to try even more for each segment, and two, I'm not gonna devote all of my time to this either.

I'll use two tricks I haven't used in my run, throw two less important grenade jumps out, and I've made a new plan for quite a bit of areas in-game. As usual, my aim is a very improbable time - sub 40 minutes. Hopefully it will become Realistic in the process. :)

Oh, and don't expect too many vids of this new run, most of them will be very similar to the earlier ones anyway.

Well, wish me luck. I'll need a lot of it.

Improvement table:[spoiler]
[table]
[tr]
[td][center][b]Segment[/b][/center][/td]
[td][center][b]   Current run[/b][/center][/td]
[td][center][b]   New time[/b][/center][/td]
[td][center][b]   Improvement[/b][/center][/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td][center]1[/center][/td]
[td]   0:48.033[/td]
[td]   0:47.217[/td]
[td]   0:00.816[/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td][center]2[/center][/td]
[td]   1:55.667[/td]
[td]   1:50.483[/td]
[td]   0:05.183[/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td][center]3[/center][/td]
[td]   0:31.933[/td]
[td]   0:30.250[/td]
[td]   0:01.683[/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td][center]4[/center][/td]
[td]   0:40.500[/td]
[td]   0:33.467[/td]
[td]   0:07.033[/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td][center]5[/center][/td]
[td]  1:18.767[/td]
[td]  1:14.033[/td]
[td]  0:04.733[/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td][center]6[/center][/td]
[td]  2:01.333[/td]
[td]  1:52.200[/td]
[td]  0:09.133[/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td][center][b]Total[/b][/center][/td]
[td]   [b]7:16.233[/b][/td]
[td]   [b]6:47.650[/b][/td]
[td]   [b]0:28.583[/b][/td]
[/tr]

[/table]
[/spoiler]

TheVoid

2007-08-05 05:03:45 pm

Good luck man! Looking forward to watching it when it's ready. Take your time and optimise perfectly Grin

DaleLewill

2007-08-05 05:20:26 pm

Ad infinitum

I didn't see this coming! A new DX run?!

Sounds very nice, Good luck indeed!

Abaddon

2007-08-05 06:03:04 pm

Heyyy... wait.. i don't know you. Don't confuse me

Dude... sub 40?

I thought that it couldn't be much more improved, than by a minute...

dang... wish you the best of luck for this one...

dex

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dex: 2007-08-05 07:35:14 pm

2007-08-05 06:50:23 pm

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Like I said, I prefer to take highly improbable goals. I'm thinking something under 42 is a more realistic goal, but you never know. Smiley

And thanks for all the 'good luck' wishes. I've been trying the first level for an hour or two, but nothing great so far.

Edit: By the way, mike agreed that I can use the enhanced renderer, and thanks to it I remove the 'grain' effect and my fps is stable. Should make things easier.

ZeRo

2007-08-05 09:09:13 pm

Speed is everything!

That sounds very nice, so I'm looking forward to this run and wish you good luck! Grin

Rake

2007-08-06 04:19:06 am

Good luck on the new run although saving minutes will be difficult the old route was fairly tight so from what you've said its the old run with the advantage of hein sight and slightly better execution? now lets just wait till we get to the point that you 2/3 the way through and some one can find a ground breaking trick that saves a minute or so and you have to start all over again

entity999

2007-08-06 04:51:25 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Wow, this is probably the run I least expected an improvement on any time soon, the one now seems so solid. Echoing the best of luck wishes of everyone else!

And would you deign to tell us what these 2 new tricks are, or is this a teaser? Grin

Ewil

2007-08-06 07:38:31 am

Dex, wouldn't be better to wait 'till you upgrade your wood and stone pc, so you can record 50-60fps, thus better aim etc. ?

Siyko

2007-08-06 08:50:43 am

I used to be athiest until I realized I was God.

and I thought *I* loved this game...

dex

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dex: 2007-08-06 11:10:25 am

2007-08-06 11:05:24 am

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Dex, wouldn't be better to wait 'till you upgrade your wood and stone pc, so you can record 50-60fps, thus better aim etc. ?

Thanks to the enhanced renderer my FPS stays at 30 all the time. A lot better than what was happening earlier, although 50 fps would be gold...but my money reserves are horribly thin, so my upgrade won't come too fast. :/

And the new routes, well let's just say that they are gonna be horribly risky. For one thing, I will have a point where I'll have to run in front of 4 enemies unscathed on an open environment. Gonna be interesting.

The two new tricks - you know them. It's just that they weren't used because of the time the trick was found or planning problems I thought would make the trick impossible.

And the reason I take on this run again is that while the old run was sharp, it contained a few mistakes and planning in the last levels was really improvised, too. I want this run to be the top of my abilities in both playing skill and route planning, even if this means only improving the current run by 1:30 or something like that. I hope it'll end up as more though.

[quote]Dex, wouldn't be better to wait 'till you upgrade your wood and stone pc, so you can record 50-60fps, thus better aim etc. ?[/quote]
Thanks to the enhanced renderer my FPS stays at 30 all the time. A lot better than what was happening earlier, although 50 fps would be gold...but my money reserves are horribly thin, so my upgrade won't come too fast. :/

And the new routes, well let's just say that they are gonna be horribly risky. For one thing, I will have a point where I'll have to run in front of 4 enemies unscathed on an open environment. Gonna be interesting.

The two new tricks - you know them. It's just that they weren't used because of the time the trick was found or planning problems I thought would make the trick impossible.

And the reason I take on this run again is that while the old run was sharp, it contained a few mistakes and planning in the last levels was really improvised, too. I want this run to be the top of my abilities in both playing skill and route planning, even if this means only improving the current run by 1:30 or something like that. I hope it'll end up as more though.

DJGrenola

2007-08-06 12:48:12 pm

guffaw

GO GO GO

Abaddon

2007-08-07 01:29:43 am

Heyyy... wait.. i don't know you. Don't confuse me

Quote:

even if this means only improving the current run by 1:30 or something like that. I hope it'll end up as more though.

Even 30 Seconds would be more than enough imho. But i don't want to set your targets below your skills Grin

ShadowWraith

2007-08-07 02:46:35 am

.

You, sir, are nuts. Polish and nuts.

Seven

2007-08-09 05:07:13 pm

I'm thinking live feed ftw =D xD How awesome would that be to have hundreds of random DX nerds like us huddled around our beloved monitors screaming at you like OMG GOOOOOO AHHHHHH!!!!!!11111 1...one one...

That'd be awesome. Very cool stuff dude. Totally good luck man.

Prentice

2007-08-10 03:09:05 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Quote:

Dude... sub 40?

I thought that it couldn't be much more improved, than by a minute...

dang... wish you the best of luck for this one...

Well the cuts are never obvious until you see them. That guy pc600 came in and did crazy stuff no one would've never guessed. There's probably a few things that Dex never caught in the first one, they're just hard to find.

Abaddon

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Abaddon: 2007-08-11 01:31:13 am

2007-08-11 01:30:37 am

Heyyy... wait.. i don't know you. Don't confuse me

Sure.. besides you cant really see a lot in DX (yay @ graphics *gg*)

And such shortcuts like nade-jumps.. well... when are you trying to jump on top of something that will blow in 3 secs? ^^

But on the other hand.. sure.. improvement is always possible, and since you can get through sub 1h, its not such a huge effort like at a game that will take several hours... (since longer games take more time overall)

pc600

2007-08-11 04:56:45 am

Good to see this game is still being run

I've found some useful details, though I don't think you'll get any more level-killing minute-cuts out of me Grin

Anyway, good luck on that sub 40 ( :o)

dex

2007-08-11 12:02:38 pm

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I need all the help I can get, and thanks Smiley

Thrull

2007-08-20 06:22:45 pm

I've got explosives!

Woot. Keep us updated!

qaylIS

2007-08-26 08:48:22 pm

There is no victory without combat

Why don't you just start with a SS run on it, is a good training and it will be a new category. A sub hour Single Segment would be awesome I think.

dex

2007-08-26 09:31:36 pm

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We had that discussion. No way to prove you did it single segment.

Rake

2007-08-27 04:34:06 am

yeah that was a shame that we couldn't SS it just I think it would be a nice challenge but o well. Any progress on the new run can we know how far in you are?

dex

2007-08-27 06:13:56 pm

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I'm in a complete no-speedrunning mood for about 2 weeks already. I'll get back to it once the school starts Smiley

ExplodingCabbage

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ExplodingCabbage: 2007-09-08 05:17:49 pm

2007-09-08 05:15:25 pm

Have you started yet, dex? And can you tell us who didn't read the last thread some of the cuts you think you'll be able to get in?

Good luck, man!