Collecting Ideas for a Kingdom Hearts Marathon?

spikevegeta

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2013-03-28 01:40:20 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Hey guys, I've had the idea for about a month now to possibly host/set-up a Kingdom Hearts marathon. There are so many runners for the series, and I think we have enough to where we could almost run the entire series(including different scenarios within games). Off the top of my head I don't have a specific date or charity to put this towards. I'm thinking maybe early June to avoid being too close to ESA/SGDQ, but I'm open to suggestions on whether we put this towards a charity or possibly just put it towards the runners getting to future marathons such as SGDQ.

So if you are interested, go ahead and post which games you could run and time estimates. Time estimates should include 10 minutes for setup since it's online and include the WORST time you could possibly get. If donation incentives become a thing later on, we can adjust the schedule, but right now I just want to get a rough idea of the games and interest for this.

Also, I would love to give everyone 1 game, but, we'll see. If someone has already posted the game you are interested in running yourself, still feel free to offer it, and we can work out who ends up running it. Also feel free to offer different versions or categories for runs, but we might not want to have too much of an overkill of similar categories for the same game(don't offer Beginner Mode KH2, than Proud Mode KH2)

As far as races go, it'll be a case-by-case basis. If runners are similar in skill and there is a decent chance that they can finish within 5 minutes or so of one another, then I will probably allow it, but I don't really think a race of a multi-hour long game with TONS of RNG would be the best idea, as it would probably end in us having to mercy kill the 2nd runner anyways.

To note, this will be held online, likely on either my twitch page, or someone else's if someone with high view counts feels like hosting it.

I'll keep a list of games for the series here with any sub-categories and runners offering to do it.

Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts Final Mix
Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories
Sora
Riku
Kingdom Hearts II
Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix-
Kingdom Hearts Re: Chain of Memories
Sora
Riku
Birty By Sleep
Terra
Aqua
Ventus
Kingdom Hearts Re: Coded
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Dream Drop Distance

I might be forgetting some, just post it I did.

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Hey guys, I've had the idea for about a month now to possibly host/set-up a Kingdom Hearts marathon. There are so many runners for the series, and I think we have enough to where we could almost run the entire series(including different scenarios within games). Off the top of my head I don't have a specific date or charity to put this towards. I'm thinking maybe early June to avoid being too close to ESA/SGDQ, but I'm open to suggestions on whether we put this towards a charity or possibly just put it towards the runners getting to future marathons such as SGDQ.

So if you are interested, go ahead and post which games you could run and time estimates. Time estimates should include 10 minutes for setup since it's online and include the WORST time you could possibly get. If donation incentives become a thing later on, we can adjust the schedule, but right now I just want to get a rough idea of the games and interest for this.

Also, I would love to give everyone 1 game, but, we'll see. If someone has already posted the game you are interested in running yourself, still feel free to offer it, and we can work out who ends up running it. Also feel free to offer different versions or categories for runs, but we might not want to have too much of an overkill of similar categories for the same game(don't offer Beginner Mode KH2, than Proud Mode KH2)

As far as races go, it'll be a case-by-case basis. If runners are similar in skill and there is a decent chance that they can finish within 5 minutes or so of one another, then I will probably allow it, but I don't really think a race of a multi-hour long game with TONS of RNG would be the best idea, as it would probably end in us having to mercy kill the 2nd runner anyways.

To note, this will be held online, likely on either my twitch page, or someone else's if someone with high view counts feels like hosting it.

I'll keep a list of games for the series here with any sub-categories and runners offering to do it.

Kingdom Hearts 
Kingdom Hearts Final Mix
Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories
    Sora
    Riku
Kingdom Hearts II 
Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix-
Kingdom Hearts Re: Chain of Memories
    Sora
    Riku
Birty By Sleep
    Terra
    Aqua
    Ventus
Kingdom Hearts Re: Coded
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Dream Drop Distance

I might be forgetting some, just post it I did.

spikevegeta

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spikevegeta: 2013-03-28 01:46:08 pm

2013-03-28 01:41:40 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Also, I'm willing to run Kingdom Hearts(Normal) 6:30:00, hope this comes down
and Kingdom Hearts II(Beginner) 4:45:00, hope this comes down as well.

edit: forgot to add times, I broke my own rules, lol.

puwexil

2013-03-28 01:50:24 pm

Professional Second Banana

Sweet! Since KH2 is the only KH game I currently run and there's plenty of other more active runners for the English version; I'd be down for KH2 Final Mix - either Beginner Any% (5:00) or Beginner All Worlds (6:30), with incentives for fighting some of the Absent Silhouettes if there's room for that.

spikevegeta

2013-03-28 02:00:08 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Also, I really should have thought out this post before I threw it up: Anybody who wants to contribute to the project at all, such as making banners, offering prizes, etc., you can either post in this thread, or PM me.

Drazerk

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Drazerk: 2013-03-28 02:08:54 pm

2013-03-28 02:04:18 pm

I can do GBA CoM but I'd rather leave it to Ghostwheel if he wants to do it. Time estimate would be 4:00:00 - 6:00:00 (Possibly longer if Blizzards don't cooperate or the 1 blue never shows up since the game is super RNG heavy and the first 40 minutes or so is pure grinding)

As for donation incentives I guess we could try and do some of the Pooh mini games provided they don't screw up the moogle packs in some way.

If I have my DS capture by June I can also do 358/2 (beginner mode) with an estimate of 5:00:00. I can practice every mission I'd normally skip for possible donation incentives.

Tackify

2013-03-28 02:49:48 pm

I could do Kingdom Hearts, estimate would be 6:30, this sounds like a great time

IrregularJinny

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2013-03-28 04:12:48 pm

Infinite Combo

Puwexil you have a route? I'd LOVE to race you once I learn the route for FM+ ! and hopefully you get that version to play properly.

If I may run alongside Puwexil for this Shocked

that is If I learn the route for it.

Ghostwheel

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2013-03-28 04:45:05 pm

The artist formerly known as Qxy

I would love to run KH: CoM on the GBA, Sora + Riku. I can definitely learn Riku by June, and the time estimate for Sora is 4:00:00 on a bad day. (5:00:00 MAX) And for Riku it's 2:00:00-2:30:00.(No setup being on the same game but I'm giving extremely conservative estimates anyway) I'd put the combined run at a reasonable estimate of 6:00:00

I can run both in tandem or offer Riku as a donation incentive.(Though I'd rather just do both, and not have to worry about learning something I might not get to run) I can also do the no hp upgrades Ansem fight as a donation incentive, which is pretty entertaining. And Drazerk, the GBA version doesn't have minigames, but rather "puzzles" to manipulate pooh to do specific stupid things to talk to a character. So that probably won't work. Otherwise it's difficult to find incentives for a game that forces you to do pretty much everything. I suppose I could restrict myself in certain ways, but that just seems silly.

Edit: There is also cutscenes. But that hasn't seemed to go over well in the past. But a small donation per cutscene could at least be something, seeing as the story of the game is good even if the "good for the GBA" graphics aren't as visually impressive as other KH games can boast. Drazerk has suggested to me that I could do dramatic readings of cutscences, which I think is a good idea, especially if my irl friend Hesusjesus is available to join in.

This is going to be really fun. I can't wait!

Oh, and to Drazerk below, that's not as good as Trinity Limit only Marluxia 1 Tongue

If that took any less than an hour or was even winnable, I'd be very surprised.

I would love to run KH: CoM on the GBA, Sora + Riku. I can definitely learn Riku by June, and the time estimate for Sora is 4:00:00 on a bad day. (5:00:00 MAX) And for Riku it's 2:00:00-2:30:00.(No setup being on the same game but I'm giving extremely conservative estimates anyway) I'd put the combined run at a reasonable estimate of 6:00:00

I can run both in tandem or offer Riku as a donation incentive.(Though I'd rather just do both, and not have to worry about learning something I might not get to run) I can also do the no hp upgrades Ansem fight as a donation incentive, which is pretty entertaining. And Drazerk, the GBA version doesn't have minigames, but rather "puzzles" to manipulate pooh to do specific stupid things to talk to a character. So that probably won't work. Otherwise it's difficult to find incentives for a game that forces you to do pretty much everything. I suppose I could restrict myself in certain ways, but that just seems silly.

Edit: There is also cutscenes. But that hasn't seemed to go over well in the past. But a small donation per cutscene could at least be something, seeing as the story of the game is good even if the "good for the GBA" graphics aren't as visually impressive as other KH games can boast. Drazerk has suggested to me that I could do dramatic readings of cutscences, which I think is a good idea, especially if my irl friend Hesusjesus is available to join in.

This is going to be really fun. I can't wait!

Oh, and to Drazerk below, that's not as good as Trinity Limit only Marluxia 1 :P If that took any less than an hour or was even winnable, I'd be very surprised.

Drazerk

2013-03-28 05:13:42 pm

I'd donate for Simba only Marluxia 1 Tongue

Sadly I'm struggling to think of any other donation incentives for chain of memories outside which story to run.

Augora

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2013-03-28 05:19:13 pm

dat jerk

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I can totally do a KH Re:CoM Riku's Story run. My estimate would have to be around 3-3:30 hrs. Card RNGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!

EDIT: Just saw the mode offer thingy mode bobber, I can do Beginner or Normal mode. But I have more experience with Beginner so I would probably have to go with that mode.

EDIT2: Then again for my estimate, let's make it 3 hrs. That's more reasonable. And since there are three of us willing to do Re:CoM R/R and if one of us is allowed to do it, pick Sonic. For one, he's amazing at it and two, he has the WR that I know of.

Tojimaru

2013-03-28 05:45:11 pm

I'd like to run Kingdom Hearts Final Mix (from the HD 1.5 ReMIX) Beginner. Estimate including setup time: 3:50

Adamtimothy0

2013-03-28 07:06:26 pm

I would like to offer running Aqua's scenario from Birth By Sleep (US beginner any%). Time estimate: 2:00:00.
I can also offer the Final Episode, possibly as a donation incentive. ~15 minutes.

I plan to learn the other two characters from BBS following the Easter Marathon, but I don't have time estimates for either characters so, if nobody else has, I will offer them at a later time.

Bl00dyBizkitz

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Bl00dyBizkitz: 2013-03-28 09:46:52 pm

2013-03-28 09:37:47 pm

God, I wish I knew how to speedrun more games for this series than just KH2. I might be able to do KH2FM Beginner, but that's really iffy, so don't count on it. I'll let you guys know if I am serious about KH2FM Beginner. In the meantime, I can definitely do KH2 Beginner; Estimate: 4:40 including setup time.

Axel Ryman

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Axel Ryman: 2013-03-28 10:35:30 pm

2013-03-28 10:29:01 pm

We all scream for Eyes Cream

I could do the Japanese version of Vanilla KH2 and Reverse Rebirth in RE:CoM, and willing to learn BBS. I'm also willing to learn Critical Mode for KH2FM(Or do KH2FM on Beginner in general), but I can't guarantee it being successful since it's been a while.

However for Donation Incentives, I can do the Absent Silhouettes in KH2FM on a Beginner Mode Speedrun file, or the Data Organization fights + Terra on Critical Mode. For BBS, I need to face off against No Heart and Armor of the Master a bit to learn them and make them worth an incentive, but I can also do the Secret Episode for BBS as well. If Mysterious Figure needs to be added as well, I WILL NOT DO IT WITH TERRA, EVER!! I'm willing to do the incentives on their own if necessary

I'll let one of the people with KH1.5HD do the Unknown in KH1FM.

Estimates:
Vanilla KH2 Japanese: 5:10:00
KH2FM Beginner: 5:10:00
KH2FM Critical: 6:30:00
RE:CoM R/R: 2:45:00
BBS All Characters + Final Episode + Secret Episode: 7:00:00

Times listed include setup, possible donation goals, and any possible deaths/mistakes/unintentional loading issues that can occur on some of them.

I could do the Japanese version of Vanilla KH2 and Reverse Rebirth in RE:CoM, and willing to learn BBS. I'm also willing to learn Critical Mode for KH2FM(Or do KH2FM on Beginner in general), but I can't guarantee it being successful since it's been a while.

However for Donation Incentives, I can do the Absent Silhouettes in KH2FM on a Beginner Mode Speedrun file, or the Data Organization fights + Terra on Critical Mode. For BBS, I need to face off against No Heart and Armor of the Master a bit to learn them and make them worth an incentive, but I can also do the Secret Episode for BBS as well. If Mysterious Figure needs to be added as well, I WILL NOT DO IT WITH TERRA, EVER!! I'm willing to do the incentives on their own if necessary

I'll let one of the people with KH1.5HD do the Unknown in KH1FM.

Estimates:
Vanilla KH2 Japanese: 5:10:00
KH2FM Beginner: 5:10:00
KH2FM Critical: 6:30:00
RE:CoM R/R: 2:45:00
BBS All Characters + Final Episode + Secret Episode: 7:00:00

Times listed include setup, possible donation goals, and any possible deaths/mistakes/unintentional loading issues that can occur on some of them.

Sonicshadowsilver2

2013-03-28 11:10:17 pm

Since I should have better internet connection by then, I can play Reverse Rebirth in Re:CoM alongside Augora and Axel and probably KH1 as well.

Estimates:
KH1 Normal: 6:30:00
Re:CoM R/R Beginner: 2:45:00

Ghostwheel

2013-03-29 06:38:02 am

The artist formerly known as Qxy

Wow, there are more KH runners than I expected, especially on Re: CoM. Just so you know, if one of you wanted to learn Sora to fill out the schedule, it probably wouldn't be so hard. (At least, its not as bad as GBA Sora b/c the deck doesn't really change and Re: is always helping you out.) Here's Jambalya's 3:21 run for reference:

I'd rather just do GBA, but if this needs to be filled up down the road, I could take it on, probably at a harder difficulty.

Tojimaru

2013-03-29 11:28:17 pm

Quote from Axel Ryman:

I'll let one of the people with KH1.5HD do the Unknown in KH1FM.

That is a great donation incentive. I hadn't even considered that.

Neohart

2013-03-29 11:42:35 pm

Final Fantasy VII Fanatic

I think a good optional donation incentive would be doing some super bosses on one the games the runners feel conferrable on, such as the data battles on KH2 Final Mix. You don't have to do quite a lot to unlock them and if the runner knows how to win fast, would not take so long, not to mention a lot of people may have not seen them at all!

Axel Ryman

2013-03-29 11:47:46 pm

We all scream for Eyes Cream

Quote from Neohart:

I think a good optional donation incentive would be doing some super bosses on one the games the runners feel conferrable on, such as the data battles on KH2 Final Mix. You don't have to do quite a lot to unlock them and if the runner knows how to win fast, would not take so long, not to mention a lot of people may have not seen them at all!

In the case of KH2FM Data Fights, you really do gotta do a lot just to get to them. Having save files on hand to access those would be wise since I'm sure people won't want to watch long grind sessions of a runner leveling all the Drive forms.

Neohart

2013-03-30 12:01:41 am

Final Fantasy VII Fanatic

Quote from Axel Ryman:

Quote from Neohart:

I think a good optional donation incentive would be doing some super bosses on one the games the runners feel conferrable on, such as the data battles on KH2 Final Mix. You don't have to do quite a lot to unlock them and if the runner knows how to win fast, would not take so long, not to mention a lot of people may have not seen them at all!

In the case of KH2FM Data Fights, you really do gotta do a lot just to get to them. Having save files on hand to access those would be wise since I'm sure people won't want to watch long grind sessions of a runner leveling all the Drive forms.

I'm not going to talk about knowing a route for it, but if the runners did have a safe ready for it then yeah, but those fights have been done many times at level 1, Assuming the run is on easy mode. I don't think it would be that hard off first glace, even would make the hype for it better!

Axel Ryman

2013-03-30 07:15:24 pm

We all scream for Eyes Cream

Ok so since we have many people for KH2(5 people I think?), I decided to come up with how we could do a run in the marathon.

Myself: Japanese Beginner Mode Any%
BloodyBizkitz: US Beginner Mode Any%
SpikeVegeta: His marathon so he decides on this one, but I figure he might want to focus on KH1 and not do KH2 again since he's doing it in the Easter marathon. Other option is a race against BB as both of them held the best times for the game.
Puwexil: Final Mix Beginner Mode All Worlds
Jinny: Final Mix Beginner Mode Any% [If the Route is learned]

If anyone has anything to add, let me know.

Also Donation Incentives. I'm compiling a list right here for all the games. Many are just off the top of my head and of course can be denied.

KH1 + FM:
Optional worlds [Maybe]
Fight Sephiroth
Fight Unknown [FM Only]

CoM + RE: CoM:
Cutscenes

KH2 + FM:
Cutscenes
Sephiroth [All Worlds Route only]
Mushroom XIII [Final Mix only]
Absent Silhouette fights [Final Mix only: Can be done on the Speedrun file]
Data Organization Fights [Final Mix only: Needs a save ahead of time due to the requirements to get to this]
Terra/Lingering Sentiment Fight [Final Mix only: Can be done on the All Worlds Route since that is the requirement to fight him, but people may want to see the fight on Critical Mode, which would require a save ahead of time]

Birth By Sleep:
Cutscenes
Final Episode [Personally I think this should be a part of the run automatically as Closure to the game, but as a donation incentive is fine]
Secret Episode [Final Mix only. Requires a save for this(I can use mine, it has a level 36 Aqua with some abilities, but is on Critical Mode so I still run a bit of a risk) if a run that does the Final Episode is not the FM version. Also wanted to include this as part of the game for closure, but as a donation incentive would be fine too.
Vanitas' Lingering Sentiment Fight
Mysterious Figure Fight
Monstro Fight [Final Mix only]
Armor of the Master Fight [Final Mix only]
No Heart fight [Final Mix only]

Re: Coded
Don't know the game enough to know what incentives are possible

358/2 Days:
Cutscenes
Optional Missions

Dream Drop Distance:
Cutscenes
Optional Boss Fight (I don't remember the name)

Probably missing a bit, but runners can make up their own incentives if necessary.

Ok so since we have many people for KH2(5 people I think?), I decided to come up with how we could do a run in the marathon.

Myself: Japanese Beginner Mode Any%
BloodyBizkitz: US Beginner Mode Any%
SpikeVegeta: His marathon so he decides on this one, but I figure he might want to focus on KH1 and not do KH2 again since he's doing it in the Easter marathon. Other option is a race against BB as both of them held the best times for the game.
Puwexil: Final Mix Beginner Mode All Worlds
Jinny: Final Mix Beginner Mode Any% [If the Route is learned]

If anyone has anything to add, let me know.

Also Donation Incentives. I'm compiling a list right here for all the games. Many are just off the top of my head and of course can be denied.

KH1 + FM:
Optional worlds [Maybe]
Fight Sephiroth
Fight Unknown [FM Only]

CoM + RE: CoM:
Cutscenes

KH2 + FM:
Cutscenes
Sephiroth [All Worlds Route only]
Mushroom XIII [Final Mix only]
Absent Silhouette fights [Final Mix only: Can be done on the Speedrun file]
Data Organization Fights [Final Mix only: Needs a save ahead of time due to the requirements to get to this]
Terra/Lingering Sentiment Fight [Final Mix only: Can be done on the All Worlds Route since that is the requirement to fight him, but people may want to see the fight on Critical Mode, which would require a save ahead of time]

Birth By Sleep:
Cutscenes
Final Episode [Personally I think this should be a part of the run automatically as Closure to the game, but as a donation incentive is fine]
Secret Episode [Final Mix only. Requires a save for this(I can use mine, it has a level 36 Aqua with some abilities, but is on Critical Mode so I still run a bit of a risk) if a run that does the Final Episode is not the FM version. Also wanted to include this as part of the game for closure, but as a donation incentive would be fine too.
Vanitas' Lingering Sentiment Fight
Mysterious Figure Fight
Monstro Fight [Final Mix only]
Armor of the Master Fight [Final Mix only]
No Heart fight [Final Mix only]

Re: Coded
Don't know the game enough to know what incentives are possible

358/2 Days:
Cutscenes
Optional Missions

Dream Drop Distance:
Cutscenes
Optional Boss Fight (I don't remember the name)

Probably missing a bit, but runners can make up their own incentives if necessary.

Drazerk

2013-03-30 07:21:52 pm

358/2 can also include the Dustflier fight. I've been practicing him with my any% route for eventual 100% runs and it is fairly easy all be it a bit repetitive. However it is a 1 hit = death type of fight which is kinda annoying for a marathon.

Ghostwheel

2013-03-30 07:56:26 pm

The artist formerly known as Qxy

For CoM donation incentives, don't forget the no HP upgrades Ansem fight. I have a save file for it, so I can access it easily. Also, under cutscenes I can read or not read text boxes (with Drazerk or Hesus to help).

Also, I could sing along with the Halloween town or Atlantica music. (and in that vein perhaps sing any Disney song at any time like puwexil and spike did during SGDQ). But that's a little dicier as an incentive than other things.

IrregularJinny

2013-03-31 03:47:17 am

Infinite Combo

if needed I have a ready file on Critical forw Lingering Sentiment. but thats extra I guess, if needed. and I need to practice how to fight him anyway. problably would be interesting to see the normal way to fight him and the sub what is it now 1 min strat with Final Form and fire?

puwexil

2013-04-02 11:20:45 am

Professional Second Banana

Re: KH2 Final Mix, what do people think about contacting Ahirun and seeing if he'd be willing to do a Critical run (which would be a definite highlight for the marathon)? He posts on SDA forum occasionally and I've seen him stream on Twitch, so if he's willing there shouldn't be any major technical hurdles.

After thinking about it more, unless the KH marathon is going to be pretty late this year (Fall/Winter), I don't think I'm going to be able to put in the practice time to do justice to KH2FM (with SGDQ coming up and working on the 2 other speedruns I want to be able to submit this year). If there's room for NA Beginner All Worlds I can do that, or I'd be fine just bowing out since there's several more active NA version runners and IMO we shouldn't have too many versions of the same game in a marathon lineup.