Child of Light

Symm

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Symm: 2014-05-03 03:09:12 am

Symm: 2014-05-03 03:08:50 am

2014-05-03 03:08:35 am

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Desregoth is that at level 2 or level 3? Leveling Light Ray instead of Starlight and then getting level 3? I have to check if level 3 increases your Magic damage.

Also, Yuuze did an awesome NG+ run in 1:20, if you guys wanna' check that out:
http://www.twitch.tv/yuuze/c/4179226

Desregoth

2014-05-03 12:12:09 pm

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That was at Lv3. And it would have been the same if I had Starlight instead of Light Ray, since at that point, the difference between the two isn't big enough to change the number of hits (so it'd also be 1x Starlight, 4x Slash). The main thing was that 1x Spell, 4x Slash on both Statues was slightly faster than 2x Starlight, 2x Slash on back statue, 1x Starlight, 4x Slash on front statue.

And then Light Ray instead of Starlight could make it even faster if you get lucky with an 1 shot kill.

olystice

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olystice: 2014-05-03 10:03:45 pm

2014-05-03 07:29:53 pm

Well, so that cutscene skip right after the statues is kinda risky, because if you do it too fast you get pseudo-soft locked. You can't speak with any of the key NPCs after Rubella.

That being said, theres no cutscene with Norah, you can't get the 6 blue oculi that traveler lady would normally give you (since you can't talk to her), you can't recruit Robert, you don't get the map, you can't really do anything, unless you can go back and trigger that cutscene of starting Chapter 3 (I think, even if you can). And you get cool stuff like two of these guys: http://gyazo.com/7ed04450945681606b1c564bbaa154c9 and you can't enter it.

EDIT: It seems like you get pseudo-soft locked if you go past the trigger for the "Chapter 3 Into the West" before it's loaded. But if you don't get the little auto-scroller for that you can just go back and hit it.
This is what reloading at the save spot skips:

Since near the end of the black screens you can have input, this video would end at just about the same spot as you load back into (after her first upwards dash). But overall, I'd say it saves about 15s. I don't think it would be worth it on any platform aside from PC because of how quickly you can relaunch the game on PC (vs PS3/4 you'd have to hold PS button for a bit, select Quit, and launch the game again).

Well, so that cutscene skip right after the statues is kinda risky, because if you do it too fast you get pseudo-soft locked. You can't speak with any of the key NPCs after Rubella.

That being said, theres no cutscene with Norah, you can't get the 6 blue oculi that traveler lady would normally give you (since you can't talk to her), you can't recruit Robert, you don't get the map, you can't really do anything, unless you can go back and trigger that cutscene of starting Chapter 3 (I think, even if you can). And you get cool stuff like two of these guys: http://gyazo.com/7ed04450945681606b1c564bbaa154c9 and you can't enter it.

EDIT: It seems like you get pseudo-soft locked if you go past the trigger for the "Chapter 3 Into the West" before it's loaded. But if you don't get the little auto-scroller for that you can just go back and hit it.
This is what reloading at the save spot skips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CMuiET-jq8
Since near the end of the black screens you can have input, this video would end at just about the same spot as you load back into (after her first upwards dash). But overall, I'd say it saves about 15s. I don't think it would be worth it on any platform aside from PC because of how quickly you can relaunch the game on PC (vs PS3/4 you'd have to hold PS button for a bit, select Quit, and launch the game again).

ogam

2014-05-03 09:12:26 pm

Looks like if you 1 turn the hydra / 3 serpents for Finn's quest you skip the Father cutscene.

Also looks like the Uplay rewards stuff persists through all playthroughs, haven't found a way to deactivate those yet.

Azurinel

2014-05-03 09:59:02 pm

I was afraid that would be the case, so I didn't get any of those prizes.

Is turn 1 killing the ele-serpents reliable?

olystice

2014-05-03 10:06:19 pm

Probably on NG+. Pretty sure it's not possible on NG.

ogam

2014-05-03 10:12:28 pm

I know you can do it with oenus and robert after killing the dragon, but that would bring you back to back track a bit, also not sure you would get Finn enough exp to be useful for sea serpent and nox.

KaeLynne

2014-05-06 11:58:11 pm

has anyone done any NG runs of this game? I'm interested in picking this up. I'd like to know if anyone has routed or have notes for the game.

olystice

2014-05-06 11:58:47 pm

Did a couple runs of NG+, first was 1:10:50, second was 1:08:18. Here's video for the second: http://www.twitch.tv/olystice/c/4205989

I only get Rubella and Robert, no need for the others.

olystice

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olystice: 2014-05-07 12:03:08 am

2014-05-07 12:00:50 am

@KaeLynne: Desregoth and ogam are the only ones who have done regular NG runs, I believe. Desregoth linked a video earlier on in the thread, and you can find ogam's video here: http://www.twitch.tv/mrogam/c/4187890

Edit: Also, Symm was making notes on the game, but I think he gave up. He posted a Google docs on the first page of the thread as well, I believe.

ogam

2014-05-07 12:59:48 am

It seems like oculi you pick up from chests rotate from when you pick it up, say X chest first time drops a Red, Y chest drops a Red on first, but if you were to pick up X->Y, it would then go Red -> Blue. Mainly noticed this for the forest area before getting Fly and right before fighting Nox, bottom right chest in the theater has a chest that gives 2 onyx, but sometimes gives 2 diamonds instead depending on which chests were opened.

Not completely sure if this changes chests throughout the whole run or for single zones.

Symm

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Symm: 2014-05-07 02:55:40 pm

2014-05-07 02:55:24 pm

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Been busy recently, so I haven't had the time to do some routing or actually get a run. But yeah my google docs is completely outdated and incomplete, I'll probably update it when I get a sub 2 hour time in NG.

Desregoth

2014-05-07 06:50:35 pm

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Oki, tried to run tonight, but I'm too tired and thus making too many mistakes during fights. But at least I have my Twitch + OBS setup, so at least, until I decide I want to record a run with good video quality, I'll be able to share vids of my runs way faster that what it took to upload that initial one to Youtube. I might do runs Friday evening and I'll most probably do some on Saturday.

olystice: That's what I thought would happen for NG+. Even NG I was able to finish by taking only Rubella (with a different build than when Oengus is recruited) and Robert. It's just that for NG, it's actually faster overall (I'd say about 5 minutes), and a LOT safer, to recruit Oengus.

olystice

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olystice: 2014-05-07 07:02:32 pm

olystice: 2014-05-07 06:59:54 pm

2014-05-07 06:56:02 pm

I don't see getting Oengus saving time unless you up his speed and crit a lot. But, I didn't work on the game, so I'm probably wrong.

Edit: Nevermind, read that wrong. You said NG, not NG+. But yeah, on NG definitely safer to get him.

I'm thinking of doing a run with only Robert and Aurora (unless I level Rubella up and use stardusts to up stats) to see how that would go.

Desregoth

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Desregoth: 2014-05-07 07:20:57 pm

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Desregoth: 2014-05-07 07:09:27 pm

2014-05-07 07:07:34 pm

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It would be worth checking. Since it's NG+, Aurora has both magic and physical skills, so you don't need Robert as much VS magic resistant enemies. Also, the fact that he has attack all skills the earliest of the characters doesn't matter for NG+. So I'd say it's definitively worth the try.

Edit: My turn to read a post wrong. But yeah, still worth checking since you don't need Rubella's support abilities as much in NG+ and there's not that many fights before you get to Robert.

Also, at max level with Stardusts and Princess Stones, you might not even have to recruit anyone (though, I doubt it could be the fastest unless you can one-round almost everything, because both Rubella and Robert are so quick to recruit).

Devilsrose

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Devilsrose: 2014-05-11 05:54:31 am

2014-05-11 05:41:20 am

Hey Guys, Just picked this up and started running it on PC, so far my best time for NG+ (Any%) is 58:35 http://www.twitch.tv/devilsrose/c/4233140

This was Aurora solo, Is there any major difference between PC and console? Not sure how many stardust it would require to have Aurora 2 or 1 round bosses though (Considering for instance, Nox has around 13-14k HP), Can be faster.

Would it be worth picking up Robert or Rubella, the boss fights were not very clean but pretty quick.

TheStrahl

2014-05-11 08:18:45 am

Currently PlayingL Child of Light

So I've been routing this game for a little while now. I'm not saying my notes are anywhere near the fastest method, but they're fairly safe for now until I get a complete run. Currently have chapters 1-6 routed. Here are my notes.

http://pastebin.com/deMjZXpV

Definitely see some things from you guys I can add.

Azurinel

2014-05-14 04:57:12 pm

Quote from Devilsrose:

Hey Guys, Just picked this up and started running it on PC, so far my best time for NG+ (Any%) is 58:35 http://www.twitch.tv/devilsrose/c/4233140

This was Aurora solo, Is there any major difference between PC and console? Not sure how many stardust it would require to have Aurora 2 or 1 round bosses though (Considering for instance, Nox has around 13-14k HP), Can be faster.

Would it be worth picking up Robert or Rubella, the boss fights were not very clean but pretty quick.

I would imagine that using two characters would always be faster, as you'd be able to do damage more often. I think Rubella's animations are pretty short, so that would save time over other characters probably. Also, you'd get to interrupt more often, meaning fewer enemy attack animations which often take several seconds.

olystice

2014-05-15 09:14:23 am

If you're looking at it this way, Rubella takes far less time to recruit (just mashing through text boxes) than Robert (doing his side quest puzzle). Rubella's attack all melee has a "medium" cast time, whereas Robert's attack all melee has a "long" cast time. However, I -think- there's a different coefficient for damage between Rubella and Robert. I think Robert will always do more damage.

But I do believe having 2 characters will be faster than one. If you just think of it in MMO terms of damage per second, you'll definitely have more with a second character. Obviously getting Robert and Rubella is a waste, so I'd go with one or the other, because it should be faster having both battlefield slots occupied.

This is really just me thinking out loud and not actually timing anything.

NostraDamon

2014-05-16 12:13:10 am

Hey guys, I started speedrunning Child of Light a week ago. I run NG any%.
I just got 1:49:28 (sub 1:50!), you can watch it here: http://www.twitch.tv/nostradamon/c/4263679

The run is pretty decent, deathless. A few things:
- Oengus glitch can be done without dying. I just flee once, then come back to the door, flee once again, and that's it.
- I only go for magic and some hp pots in the whole run.
- I use the AOE slow tree for Robert, it does a good amount of damage and the slow is really useful when Norah is gone.

Freddeh

2014-05-16 02:17:14 am

Oh, nice run Nostra! I've slowly been working on routing NG on this game myself, but I might just take your run as a base and see what I can improve upon if that's ok :).

Symm

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Symm: 2014-05-16 01:31:42 pm

2014-05-16 01:31:23 pm

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3rd time dying to the 2nd giant =( God this boss made it straight to number 1 on my s*** list, hes killed 2 runs already =(

Freddeh

2014-05-16 02:20:14 pm

I just got through a playthrough (picking up far too much extra stuff, but now i know what not to pick up...mostly). The major thing I'm messing with is picking up Finn by teleporting to the town after I pick up robert. It makes the hydra fight a joke (and rather quick), but the whole thing is a ~4-5 minute detour and may or may not actually save that much time between the spider fight, the griffin, the second giant, the fish, and Nox to be worth it. Having a second caster is rather useful, ESPECIALLY for Nox...on my first attempt, so going kinda slowly, I killed Nox over a minute faster than Nostra's run.

Also, I think the fight I'm going to hate is the damn fish fight. That fight took me the most tries in this run, almost primarily because of the random chance to paralyze coming at a bad time.

NostraDamon

2014-05-16 02:51:54 pm

The boss fight I'm struggling with the most is the Griffin. I may have to find different strats for this, it's really annoying sometimes.

@Freddeh: A second caster would definitely be super useful, but I'm not sure getting Finn is worth it (except glitch to skip it).
@Symm: For the second Giant, maybe you should try to hard focus on 1 hound at a time. This helped me go through this a few times.

And here is a slightly faster strat for the first puzzle room (easier to execute than the long jump skip, but doesn't save a lot of time):
http://www.twitch.tv/nostradamon/c/4267237

Freddeh

2014-05-16 04:18:54 pm

Question: Do we want to time the start of this by when we first gain control of Aurora or when we choose difficulty?