Castlevania - Dawn of Sorrow

Aftermath

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2007-03-12 04:39:15 pm

Quits halfway

Here is my stream channel.

This first post is going to try to be an index of runs and a little summary of what's currently happening.

So first, the runs that have been completed on video, if it's segmented I'll link to part 1 or the playlist:

Boss Rushes:
Soma 1:17.95
Soma TAS 1:00.20
Julius 4:34.94

Soma New Game, with major skips:
groobo's semi-tool assisted 28:58
Aftermath's 29:28
Satoryu's 39:22 (uses in-bounds warps and doesn't get glitched souls)

Soma New Game+, with major skips:
Aftermath's 2:32
Aftermath's 100% 26:25

Soma New Game+, without major skips:
Persona's 35:54

Julius Mode:
Aftermath's 42:14 (test run)

The Knowledge Base for this game is mostly updated, here's what's left to be added;
- Edit Soma Boss Rush with inclusion of strategies in the TAS which are humanly possible.
- Add Julius Mode game paths/walkthroughs (still under discussion).
- Add Soma New Game with major skips path/walkthrough
- Add Soma New Game+ 100% path/walkthrough

As for what's currently happening in the thread, it's mostly just me saying I'll do stuff, then not doing it.

Julius Mode Speedrun: sub-40.
Route:

Flying Armor (get Yoko)
Activate Garden of Madness warp
Dario (get Alucard)
Puppet Master
Warp to Garden of Madness
Balore
Warp to Garden of Madness
Dmitrii/Malphas
Activate Dark Chapel warp
Rahab
Bat Company
Warp to Dark Chapel
Gergoth
Zephyr
Aguni
Warp to Dark Chapel
Death
Abaddon
Soma

Main form of movement will be Yoko's backdash hop. I'm not sure this is the best route.

Julius Mode boss rush sub-4:20:
Route on the KB, test run with final strategies here

Soma boss rush sub-1:20:
A mix of the TAS and non-TAS. Hasn't really been discussed yet, but I think the only strategies that will be feasible are the changed Flying Armor (Killer Clown -> Rycuda) and use of Ukoback on Paranoia and Aguni.

Soma New Game with and without major skips:
Sort of on hold, but the route for non-skip is on the KB, and the major skips route is easy and just requires luck.

Streaming:
I'm going to start streaming practice of stuff, and I'll update the thread title with times.

Thread title:

[url=http://www.justin.tv/aftermathrar]Here is my stream channel.[/url]

This first post is going to try to be an index of runs and a little summary of what's currently happening.

So first, the runs that have been completed on video, if it's segmented I'll link to part 1 or the playlist:

Boss Rushes:
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KJE-AiBDwo]Soma 1:17.95[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeYBhhZcbGM]Soma TAS 1:00.20[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np2nENSfQU8]Julius 4:34.94[/url]

Soma New Game, with major skips:
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws4714qAvk4]groobo's semi-tool assisted 28:58[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=19952070BE72EFE0]Aftermath's 29:28[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa0GjrK6KoY]Satoryu's 39:22 (uses in-bounds warps and doesn't get glitched souls)[/url]

Soma New Game+, with major skips:
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsBHRBPOeS0]Aftermath's 2:32[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D153249C9B5DD30A]Aftermath's 100% 26:25[/url]

Soma New Game+, without major skips:
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5RIY1oNh7A]Persona's 35:54[/url]

Julius Mode:
[url=http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=02888A4EC90C8FE8]Aftermath's 42:14 (test run)[/url]

The [url=http://speeddemosarchive.com/kb/Castlevania:_Dawn_of_Sorrow]Knowledge Base[/url] for this game is mostly updated, here's what's left to be added;
- Edit Soma Boss Rush with inclusion of strategies in the TAS which are humanly possible.
- Add Julius Mode game paths/walkthroughs (still under discussion).
- Add Soma New Game with major skips path/walkthrough
- Add Soma New Game+ 100% path/walkthrough

As for what's currently happening in the thread, it's mostly just me saying I'll do stuff, then not doing it.

Julius Mode Speedrun: sub-40.
Route: [spoiler]Flying Armor (get Yoko)
Activate Garden of Madness warp
Dario (get Alucard)
Puppet Master
Warp to Garden of Madness
Balore
Warp to Garden of Madness
Dmitrii/Malphas
Activate Dark Chapel warp
Rahab
Bat Company
Warp to Dark Chapel
Gergoth
Zephyr
Aguni
Warp to Dark Chapel
Death
Abaddon
Soma

Main form of movement will be Yoko's backdash hop. I'm not sure this is the best route.[/spoiler]

Julius Mode boss rush sub-4:20:
[url=http://speeddemosarchive.com/kb/Castlevania:_Dawn_of_Sorrow#Julius.2FYoko.2FAlucard]Route on the KB[/url], [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np2nENSfQU8]test run with final strategies here[/url]

Soma boss rush sub-1:20:
A mix of the TAS and non-TAS. Hasn't really been discussed yet, but I think the only strategies that will be feasible are the changed Flying Armor (Killer Clown -> Rycuda) and use of Ukoback on Paranoia and Aguni.

Soma New Game with and without major skips:
Sort of on hold, but the [url=http://speeddemosarchive.com/kb/Castlevania:_Dawn_of_Sorrow#New_Game_any.25_without_warping]route for non-skip is on the KB[/url], and the major skips route is easy and just requires luck.

Streaming:
I'm going to start streaming practice of stuff, and I'll update the thread title with times.

AquaTiger

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AquaTiger: 2007-03-12 04:45:49 pm

2007-03-12 04:45:18 pm

Never give up!

Well, Soma would have to be run first, and I think that's the biggest reason.

Unlockable modes cannot be done until a run of the default mode is completed (and probably on the site). Only two exceptions: if the person running the unlockable mode submits a run of the default mode at the same time, or if the unlockable is similar to the default mode (same character, same story) but much harder (this is a tricky one though, and I think it's less allowed now than before).

Sorry, but it's SDA policy.

BlueGlass

2007-03-12 04:46:15 pm

Yep yep yep!

First of all, there's no run on SDA because there's currently no good way to record DS speedruns, and even if there were, a new game run of the normal game would be required first.

Serris

2007-03-12 07:35:33 pm

http://www.persona-world.net/cve/cvdos_a.html

Satoryu

2007-03-12 07:52:26 pm

Visually Appealing

there is at least one DoS thread somewhere.

and who said a Soma run needs too many souls? now that i've ironed out a route for PoR, i'm going back to DoS in hopes of making a run of both games at some point. probably not on SDA, but i will abide by SDA rules. the only souls one would need are the initial three, boss souls, probably Axe Armor, Succubus (not for glitched souls, just to get to the Mine of Judgment early), and probably Black Panther for the end of the game.

that's if one decided not to upgrade weapons. my original plan was to use Great Swords for most of the game. I'd get a Warg to upgrade the Claymore to Falchion immediately, then later a Great Armor for Great Sword. now I'm looking into Axes. again, immediately upgrade to Battle Axe, then get a Manticore for Bhuj i think. this might require getting another Axe Armor soul, but i have to see how the rest of the bosses fare without it.

on topic for Julius Mode, which I never plan to make a run of cause i suck, persona-world has a map showing the path for a low% game, (which is basically least amount of map, low level, no Yoko), minus the abyss.

http://persona-world.net/cve/images01/dosjuliuslowroute.JPG

i forget the exact order in which to fight bosses. for a pure speed through, i'd imagine Yoko would be more than worth getting, and more use of warp points.

there is at least one DoS thread somewhere.

and who said a Soma run needs too many souls? now that i've ironed out a route for PoR, i'm going back to DoS in hopes of making a run of both games at some point. probably not on SDA, but i will abide by SDA rules. the only souls one would need are the initial three, boss souls, probably Axe Armor, Succubus (not for glitched souls, just to get to the Mine of Judgment early), and probably Black Panther for the end of the game.

that's if one decided not to upgrade weapons. my original plan was to use Great Swords for most of the game. I'd get a Warg to upgrade the Claymore to Falchion immediately, then later a Great Armor for Great Sword. now I'm looking into Axes. again, immediately upgrade to Battle Axe, then get a Manticore for Bhuj i think. this might require getting another Axe Armor soul, but i have to see how the rest of the bosses fare without it.

on topic for Julius Mode, which I never plan to make a run of cause i suck, persona-world has a map showing the path for a low% game, (which is basically least amount of map, low level, no Yoko), minus the abyss.

http://persona-world.net/cve/images01/dosjuliuslowroute.JPG

i forget the exact order in which to fight bosses. for a pure speed through, i'd imagine Yoko would be more than worth getting, and more use of warp points.

Serris

2007-03-12 08:13:39 pm

^ I think I said it before in the other thread, but oh well: Yorick slidekicks are an excellent way to deal with bosses like Dario, Malphas and Zephyr. I don't know how much will be skipped with MoJ early, though.

Nitrodon

2007-03-12 08:54:12 pm

The old thread is near the top of page 4. I'd link to it, but the preview was messed up whenever I tried that. My time was 1:07:36 in 14 segments a long time ago, but I don't have any means of recording DS runs.

Satoryu

2007-03-12 11:16:48 pm

Visually Appealing

Quote:

^ I think I said it before in the other thread, but oh well: Yorick slidekicks are an excellent way to deal with bosses like Dario, Malphas and Zephyr.

Yorick's a 3 star right? i'll see what i can do.

Quote:

I don't know how much will be skipped with MoJ early, though.

quite a lot. as long as you do it immediately when you get Succubus, you don't have to fight Aguni and Paranoia, and in turn, no need to hunt for Killer Clown or Ukoback.

Serris

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Serris: 2007-03-13 12:07:53 am

2007-03-12 11:44:38 pm

Hmm, nice. I have some kind of aversion to the Succubus glitch, so I don't know too much about it. It should definitely be a separate category, anyway. But I guess it's nice not to have to worry about Death and Abaddon. Tongue

What do you use on Menace?

Oh, I forgot to mention Dmitrii for Yorick ownage. He'll copy it, but since he can't slidekick, all he does is throwing the useless skull.

Cheesus

2007-03-12 11:53:35 pm

vw00t!

So.. should i delete the julius mode from the thread-title?

Serris

2007-03-13 12:14:59 am

Quote:

So.. should i delete the julius mode from the thread-title?

You might want to take a look at this thread.

Satoryu

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Satoryu: 2007-03-13 12:21:00 am

2007-03-13 12:19:24 am

Visually Appealing

renaming the topic would be a good idea.

and i'm not sure if Succubus would be a separate category. its like Shadow Temple Early in OoT, i imagine.

for Menace I believe I used Axe Armor most of the time. it's been a while since i've played the game that far. apparently an old test run i did with Great Swords timed out to one hour and thirty or so seconds. sub hour is the goal here.

BlueGlass

2007-03-13 02:24:11 am

Yep yep yep!

I did a casual speedrun a few months ago. I seem to remember both Yorick and Slaughterer being well worth the effort they took to get, despite having to go through Garden of Madness about 500 times, as there's only two Yoricks on your way through there, and they're right by the exit. Also, I don't remember when I picked it up, but Bomber Armor murders Bat Company.

Nystroem

2007-04-16 01:02:18 pm

So.. anyone working on a speedrun right now?
I really really wanna see a speedrun of this game. The Persona-speedrun wasn't very fun to watch. I wanna see one from the beginning without any souls to start with..

Nitrodon had a great time. 1:07 sounds awesome, and even if someone can do it faster, just record a speedrun around that time and put it up. Once it's up, more people will try to beat that time

I would do it myself if I was any good at all. I think one of MY friends is awesome, and his time is 2:10.. Tongue

Satoryu

2007-04-16 02:53:15 pm

Visually Appealing

http://www.persona-world.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=172

that's my gameplan for the future. once i get some more free time, i'll do this and PoR. just not on SDA.

Nystroem

2007-04-17 12:11:49 am

And do you plan to start a new file on your cartridge? Or just continue on an old file? Sorry, I'm a bit confused..
If it's a from-scratch-speedrun I will be more than pleased!

Satoryu

2007-04-17 12:14:04 am

Visually Appealing

i plan on doing both.

Nystroem

2007-04-17 12:40:24 am

Nice!

I'll be waiting like a child the night before christmas!

Satoryu

2007-05-19 08:44:07 pm

Visually Appealing

ugh. i wanted to start recording today. but i can't find the CD that installs all the crap i need to convert the video. no worries, as i know someone with the same camera as me, and they'll surely loan me their CD.

don't know if i'll put these videos on youtube. i'll probably only put them on filefront. and i'm sure Persona would host them.

Satoryu

2007-05-22 12:43:19 am

Visually Appealing

first segment complete. check my Filefront page.

Nystroem

2007-05-22 02:11:10 am

Nice to see that you're working on it Satoryu!

But what's wrong with the AVI-file? When I watch the segment online it's like four times the actual speed, but the music is as it should be. And also...186 mb for 56 seconds? What went wrong? Tongue

Maybe it's just my computer..

Satoryu

2007-05-22 02:44:34 am

Visually Appealing

looks like its a problem with the streaming video. the actual avi works fine.

Satoryu

2007-06-29 03:18:29 am

Visually Appealing

i've finished the run with a time of 39:22, which is better than what i expected. check it out.

getter77

2007-06-29 03:41:28 am

100% runs=great to watch

Good lord those are some of the biggest segment sizes I've ever seen! Shocked

Here's hoping these wind up on SDA at some point in smaller form else it'll be quite awhile before I can free up that kinds HD space.

No1 Inparticular

2007-06-29 03:45:24 am

Honestly,can you put this up on Youtube,or Archive or something? I'm not able to download files that big.